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How does one expand cities to get more space for buildings?

I looked around the guide but could not see it.

Thanks

The max buildings you see when you settle colony cannot change(apart from human take overs or losses with 90k/200k cities only). And its as the other guy says, just settle further away from other cities or terrain to have a higher max buildings. 

The only way to 'delete' a city is to wreak every single building and it will disappear over time. And no, you cannot rename a city.

I see, one more question. How is the limit on walls decided? Is there a total maximum of walls for all my cities? Is it then better to build more walls on the perimeter or blocker cities?

I see. Apart from the 1 house 5 production ratio, should I have cities that entirely host armories, magic towers etc or should I distribute it to my cities? Also how do you suggest to use walls and guard towers? Are they necessary?

What is the ratio of guard towers (to production buildings) that you generally build? Since they take building space I guess exceeding a certain ratio is also not good 

Hmm thanks. Any suggestions on how to organize defense? Do you put any protection on your production cities or do you just surround the near land with blockers and guard them? 

What doesn't matter? I did not understand the strategy for defense.

Definitely agree with that, I pretty much always have some troops/gts in my cities or near them, even if its in the middle of the core.
Its one of the reasons I often survive the longest, since any small armies that my/our opponents send out after breaching/sneaking into a core can´t take my cities, and are killed by me while trying to take my kd mates cities near me.
Of course I have suffered from that myself as well, no one is perfect after all :P

And how about how many cities is more or less optimal for a new player? 

there is no set number of cities. how i build cities is i heavily build homes in my cities and just build enough production buildings to keep up with pez growth. in a perfect world you want the jobs to open up the second or a little before the pez moves to the city that way you don't have unemployed peasants and also so your production doesn't hurt. once i start approaching my house max (1:5 ratio) i start building another city.

when starting out in protection look to build 2 cities w/i the first few ticks then start an armory when there is 45 ticks left til oop. this may need to be adjusted if there is a threat of oop war or not. from there follow my above suggestion

At some point the cost of building just becomes too expensive that i just quit building production cities and focus entirely on troop training. for me that is around the point that i reach around 250k buildings.

I'm not saying my way of doing things is the best way of doing things but this plan has worked for me.

ps. i mostly play halfer

blockers will block the amount of space that the city takes up. meaning that if it's a large gap, you have to build a large city to block that space. the positioning of blockers is vital because if your city won't expand enough to block the area, the blocker is useless. when building a blocker make sure you have lots of houses to house your troops because army upkeep will kill you especially if you are a halfer, dwarf, or human

*note if you're in a KD it's always nice to use dwarfs to build blockers in mountain ranges and elfs between trees b/c there cities can expand into those ranges

i've used the double block before and it severely cost my KD. it forced me to attack any opposing army that approached my gates when i didn't have the best of odds so that they wouldn't overrun the other city which severely weakened my army. i managed to fend off the armies but their mage crush walled the weaker of my 2 cities and send a host of armies through the city and there was little that I could do.

moral of the story is make sure you build the blocker right the 1st time. it's always easier to defend 1 city instead of 2 regardless of how powerful you are

you should always try to make your blocker have as large of a visual as possible. larger cities require more time to prep.

you can almost always tell the instant you make a city if it will block. if it won't block you shouldn't build the city up and then build a "double block", you should burn the city and make a new one that blocks.

• note if you're in a KD it's always nice to use dwarfs to build blockers in mountain ranges and elfs between trees b/c there cities can expand into those ranges

how do I understand if my blocker is right before it expands?

ok with your troops you got attacked by another player you didn't attack them and you have to tell your troops to attack they don't do it automatically


yes you can move troops into the city no you dont have to open the gates to do that and no the enemy doesnt auto attack if your gates open they might try to run through your block and get to a bigger city but it's all up to chance

The second one. You can always attack to get them to bounce.

No. If they attack your city while you have an army in the city you will still get the pezzie defence bonus (.25 dp I think) and GT's.

I knew it was something like that.

It all depends on the cities defence i.e. Gaurd Towers and troops, and the strength o the attacking army.

no one knows?

One more question, suppose we have a large city (60k buildings) that covers a large area on the map. It looks like a castle with lots of houses around it. Now if we put some soldiers on the outer regions of this city (outside the castle region where the houses are) do the soldiers still defend, or should they be strictly in the castle tile of the city?

Same for attacking the city?

I believe Avicenna is putting on a show and just pretending to be new.

ask Lord Gilthas, he just passed through my badly placed Bridge Blocker and conquered all my cities :p