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Bad idea to but warehouses in your magic city, MT give magic defence also and will make casting on it harder.

15k houses and 6k armories is a very bad idea, that would not give you full discount on training time. Better to ahve 7500 armories, that always gives the full discount no matter how many homes you have in your city.

1. STG is a utility scroll that you cast upon cities, and the cost of casting utility scrolls upon cities is related to 'magic resistance' which is based upon building count. You are best served casting STG on a small city that is 100% warehouses. The only reasons to put homes in a warehouse would be to collect tax gold (negligible and the tax gold would be outweighed by the increased cost of casting the spell) or to house the troops that defend the warehouse (also negligible even if you are a halfling). If you do build a 100% warehouse city be sure to keep an army in the city at all times to avoid being plundered by a nazgul scout for tens of millions of gold.

If you want an incredibly simplified tl;dr version of how to STG you could make a city with 3k warehouses and no other buildings and use 4k~ MU to cast the spell on the city from an army that is within the city,


2. The best ratio of MT/Homes doesn't exist. You really should have as few homes as possible in your MC and store the MU in an adjacent city (I could go on and on about why having homes in your MC is shit) but people are lazy so they do it anyway because it works fine up until the late-era. This is a rather extreme statement that I know some people will disagree with so I'll just present information to you and allow you to reason through this on your own:

If you have, say, 10k homes and 5k MT you are not going to be getting the full magic power bonus that you could be getting by casting from a city with MT. Most people would agree that if you are spending tends to hundreds of millions of resources to train enough MU to reach a certain magic power that you need to cast a spell it is sub-optimal to reduce the % magic power modifier provided by MT just because you wanted to store your MU on-site.

As the era drags on you will need more and more mages to cast spells like Freeze/ROF/etc. Eventually the number of MU you will need will exceed hundreds of thousands, at which point you will need tens of thousands of homes to store said MU. When you get to this point you will either need a 'crack smoker MC' to both store all of your MU and have the full MT magic power bonus or you will need to store your MU in a city that is mostly made up of homes that is close to the MC.


The only reason that having 100% MT cities is not the optimal way to cast spells is because MT do not turn into wreckage when they collapse, therefore if you need (X amount of MT) to reach a certain range you would need to always maintain ({.5X} - 100) buildings in said city to build back up to your desired range.

It is for this reason that many mages many opt to build either 7500 armories or 4k-6k homes in their MCs. I would HIGHLY recommend training and storing most MU in a nearby city and not in the actual MC. If your MC has 5000 non-MT buildings then as long as you always have 5k+ MT you will get the full power bonus.

Let's say your city has 9k MT and 0 other buildings, if you cast high level spells and lose 90%+ of your MT then you suddenly are left with a sub-2k total building city that will require a very very long time to build back up even if you use slaves due to the limit of buildings you can build at once in a city being ((total buildings x 2) + 100)

If the same city has 5k homes then you can store 125k MU on city for ease and you can always build up to 10100 MT at a time even if you lose 100% of your MT.

Thanks heaps barny, really appreciate the effort you went into.

I thought of a solution, I can just break the huge wall of text into separate parts and post them here despite it being off topic. TL;DR/important stuff highlighting in orange.

Rather than immediately giving opinions on races/balance/etc I'll open with something more factual and less opinionated.

I have to preface this by saying that I love to flame Troll players. I don't think Troll is a very good race at all and I could go into great detail as to why that is, but the 'concept' of the race is good and Troll attracts a lot of good players like Kool, Pure, Darkmoor (best troll player atm imo), etc.