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20:39:31 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ok... Right... This thread is for debates. We'll have (maybe) certain people debating against each other. I'm hoping to have 16 players anyway (this won't happen, I know...) and 5 judges. The 5 judges give their vote to whoever, and it's the person with the most scores wins (Obviously...). Each person can pick any topic in the whole world, excluding anything stupid, sexist(though this might make an interesting topic, so you're allowed use this, but nothing competely stupid.), racist, ageist or any other stupid things. This is how it works (having 8 players so I won't have to write out more...):
Player 1 picks a topic(ummm...) ice-creams are nice(...).
Player 6 disagrees with this, so he says so, and plays against this Player 1 dude.
Player 1 wins this debate(we all knew he would, not even a complete *beep* could lose this...). So he goes through to the next round.
Player 2 picks a topic, player 3 disagrees with it, plays him and player 3 wins. etc. So player 1,3,7,8 go through. Then player 3 picks a topic, player 8 disagrees with it, and plays him, and player 8 wins. Player 7 wins against 1. Then player 7 wins.
Scoring: Judge 1:gives one point to who he thinks made the best debate speech, Judge 2: does the same, etc.

Say in the Player 1 V 6 debate, the Player 1 gives his debate speech first, then the Player 6 does the same. Then Player 1 says can say blah blah about some sentence in Player 6's speech, and point out some things wrong with it. Then Player 6 answers them. Player 6 says blah blah about Player 1's speech, and Player 1 answers them. They can both only one post for each thing, and they will be judged accordingly (I hope) on all of them.
           So, good luck if you join, bad luck in your era if not.
          
         Players                                                 Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
Just  copy this and leave whichever one blank you don't want to do. You can do both of course(if we get enough judges that is.). If we have 7 or more judges the judges can play(we put on substitute judges.). There will be 5 main judges, and the others can act as substitues. Post any questions as well. The debates will start 21 of October, Sunday coming (hopefully).


20:41:40 Oct 15th 07 - Sir Verll:

  Players                                                 Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
                                                                          Verll (I'll play if there is to few)


20:42:25 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Sigheart:

  Players                                                 Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
    2. Sigheart                                                                     Verll (I'll play if there is to few)


20:45:49 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ahhh... ummm... can't fix problem of doubling over, hmmm... just put them down anyway. Oh yeah, forgot to mention, if judges leave they have to be substituted, and if players leave they lose... If they manage to get in a part of their debate, well depends on how absolutely fantastic it is, but they'll probably lose.


20:48:16 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Erunion Telcontar:


         Players                                                 Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar


20:49:48 Oct 15th 07 - Sir Verll:

*feels forgotten*


20:49:50 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Killer:

These are quick... :

    Players                                                 Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                              Verll(I'll play if there is to few)


20:50:14 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Kassius Son of Rome:

Players                                                 Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer

    2. Sigheart                                                 Verll

                                                                     Kassius


23:04:51 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Do these properly please:

  Players                                                 Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                              Verll(I'll play if there is to few)
  4.                                                              Kassius




23:08:28 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Zorkhana:


Players Judges

1. Killer Killer
2. Erunion Telcontar Erunion Telcontar
3. Sighheart Verll(I'll play if there is to few)
4. Kassius
5. Zorkhana


23:08:51 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Zorkhana:

oops
i meant to be a judge


23:13:20 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Killer:

How come there is more judges?

Players                                                 Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                              Verll(I'll play if there is to few)
  4.                                                              Kassius
  5.                                                              Zorkhana                           


23:26:12 Oct 15th 07 - Mr. Kassius Son of Rome:

cus its an easy role we just have tah say yea or nay :P


14:16:13 Oct 16th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ok, need more people please.


14:41:02 Oct 16th 07 - Lord Seloc:

Players                                                 Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                              Verll(I'll play if there is to few)
  4. Seloc                                                    Kassius
  5.                                                              Zorkhana                           


15:06:39 Oct 16th 07 - Duke Lucias Septim II:

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                              Verll(I'll play if there is to few)
  4. Seloc                                                    Kassius
  5. Lucias Septim II                                    Zorkhana


22:29:44 Oct 16th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Please, more people. And if it's the losing automatically if you're not there that's putting you off(I doubt it...), you get around a week to do the debate. Maybe more. We'll have a few going at the same time. I would really like a min. of 8 player, and there is already enough judges, but another 2 substitute judges would be nice.


20:06:03 Oct 17th 07 - Mr. Killer:

I suppose this is all that there will be :( 3.5 more days left.


18:37:13 Oct 18th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ummmm? Anyone else? One more anyway please, then we could have 8 players and 3 judges(with substitues... it'll be kind of ffed up...).


17:34:37 Oct 19th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Sorry... need 2 more players for 8. If Verll plays that is. Kassius, Zorkhana, don't suppose you want to play?


20:46:22 Oct 19th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

ill play if u need me 2. u want me as a judge or as a player??


21:17:08 Oct 19th 07 - Sir Verll:

I think he needs players....


12:08:40 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

ok. ill play if you dont have enough i guess.


15:12:18 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Kassius Son of Rome:

i wanna judge :P


15:19:30 Oct 20th 07 - Lord Seloc:

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                               
  4. Seloc                                                    Kassius (is already a judge?)
  5. Lucias Septim II                                    Zorkhana
  6. Vengence


15:21:45 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Kassius Son of Rome:

he was askin if i wanted to be a player


18:13:45 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Yes, that's exactly what I was asking you.
  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                               Verll(I'll play if there is too few)
  4. Seloc                                                    Kassius
  5. Lucias Septim II                                    Zorkhana
  6. Vengence
Verll, Kassius, and Zorkhana, do any of you want to play AS WELL as judging? You can't judge your own games though... I'm aiming for 8 players and 5 judges now(but if anyone else feels like joining, please do, I'll try and find a way to stick you in somehow.), as it's starting tomorrow. Good luck all.


18:18:39 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Muse:

ill play too


18:29:37 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ah, good.

         Players                                                  Judges
  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                               Verll(I'll play if there is too few)
  4. Seloc                                                    Kassius
  5. Lucias Septim II                                    Zorkhana
  6. Vengence
  7. Muse
One more player at least now.


18:31:01 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

can i play judge aswell?????


18:36:18 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Killer:

  Players                                                  Judges
  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                               Verll(I'll play if there is too few)
  4. Seloc                                                    Kassius
  5. Lucias Septim II                                    Zorkhana
  6. Vengence                                              Vengence
  7. Muse 


18:37:37 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Hell yeah, if we can get it up another one to 7 we'll be able to have 5 judges per debate. Might be able to do so now, but it would be dubious.


18:41:17 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

wen we startin???


20:22:53 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Tommorrow, Sunday, at some stage. I need another player though, either one of the judges(who stays a judge as well.) or a new person, and another judge would be nice.(but a player is more important, but if a new person feels like entering, please do so, and become a player AND a judge, or either one if they don't want to...)


20:24:12 Oct 20th 07 - Lord Seloc:

Players                                                  Judges

  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                               Verll(I'll play if there is too few)
  4. Seloc                                                    Kassius
  5. Lucias Septim II                                    Zorkhana
  6. Vengence                                              Vengence
  7. Muse 
  8. Seloc's alter-ego Seloc


20:26:40 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

i cant do sunday morning, so dont deb8 wiv me then


20:27:22 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Sorry, I don't think you playing twice would be fair...

          Players                                                  Judges
  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                               Verll(I'll play if there is too few)
  4. Seloc                                                    Kassius
  5. Lucias Septim II                                    Zorkhana
  6. Vengence                                              Vengence
  7. Muse 


20:28:23 Oct 20th 07 - Lord Seloc:

But it wouldn't be me it would be Seloc?


20:31:05 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

u cant play twice, thats stupid.


20:47:37 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ok, I better explain the time, so:
   (note: these aren't the actual times, I'm not sure about them yet.)
3 days: players pick topic they want, and other players pick what topic they want to challenge(first person to challenge plays, and only one topic per person at a time). When everyone is sorted out we'll start. Say
Player 1
     v             -->    Player 1 
Player 6
                                 V              -->    Player 7
Player 5
     v             -->    Player 7
Player 7                                                                  
                                                             V                 -->   Player 4 wins!                                   
Player 8
     v             -->    Player 8
Player 2  
                                   V           -->     Player 4
Player 3
      v            -->     Player 4
Player 4

When players pick their topics, the first person (I'll pick these at random, I'll roll a dice or something, including my own, don't worry I won't cheat.) has 3 days to post his debate, then the other player has 3 days to post his. Then, the first player has 2 days to post questions about the other player's debate, then the second player has 2 days to post questions about the first player's debate. Then, the first person has 1 day to reply to those questions. Then the second has 1 day to reply to the questions. At last, the judges score points, and have 2 days to do this. So that's a total of a fortnight to finish the debate, which seems pretty reasonable. So this may be the times, but I'm not sure. Then the same happens again for the next set of players. All debates will be on at the same times. Judges will decide who to give their vote to from looking at ALL parts of it, don't be lazy :P Good luck all, especially me!


20:49:37 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

can i call ppl i the game traitors as a debate???


20:52:40 Oct 20th 07 - Lord Seloc:

I win!!!!


20:54:28 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Killer:

Hmmmm... If you want to lose, yes. You are aware, I hope, that judges are players, and might know some players. Would be risky. Also, when picking a debate, you have to write the topic name down in proper English, otherwise some people might not understand you. And no, you can't, I don't want any insults hurled about in this thread, apart from maybe at the person you're debating with, though judges look at everything, and judge on everything. At least me anyway.


20:54:52 Oct 20th 07 - Mr. Vengence:

huh????


23:48:49 Oct 20th 07 - Sir Verll:

I am going to vote against the one who insults....


00:52:17 Oct 21st 07 - Mr. Erunion Telcontar:

As a judge, I will vote for the most logical and well-reasoned argument. If one person just flames the other and adds nothing to the debate, even if they are in the right, and I know it, I will give the other person the win, because they debated intelligently. Say, if Arguer #1 said that the moon gives off light, and put forth a reasoned argument for it, and the other person just yelled and called arguer #1 names, even though I know that it is the sun that gives off light, and the moon only reflects it, I would say that Arguer #1 was the victor.


01:08:39 Oct 21st 07 - Mr. Zorkhana:

i'm voting for the person i agree with, unless they flame..


12:27:57 Oct 21st 07 - Mr. Vengence:

im just voting for the best debate, not the best flame


14:10:46 Oct 21st 07 - Mr. Killer:

Ummm... Need another player. Quickly.


17:52:08 Oct 21st 07 - Mr. Killer:

Right, Verll is playing whether he wants to or not, as he said he would if there wasn't enough players. :P

   Players                                                  Judges
  1. Killer                                                   Killer
  2. Erunion Telcontar                                 Erunion Telcontar
  3. Sighheart                                               Verll
  4. Seloc                                                    Kassius
  5. Lucias Septim II                                    Zorkhana
  6. Vengence                                              Vengence
  7. Muse
  8. Verll
I've decided to start with only 6 judges, so... hopefully they won't play each other... Right, to start, pick a topic(as long as it's not offensive, it can be VERY lightly offensive, but nothing stupid.) or challenge someone who has already picked a topic. I want to get started as soon as possible, so if you've not got one in 5 days playing with another person, I'll pick something  for you. Ask any questions here, and good luck!


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