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<3 Augh and Morgan

"...a friend of us discovered that Abydos and Baccus had signed a pact to attack you"

That's not exact. First attack on us was made by Legacy while we were still at war with Mirror...

yay! will legacy possibly, maybe, actually fall? is this the era? i wonder...........

I know legacy can handle abydos + carnage, but if you throw in the drunken monks and only u doing a "sneak" there may be a small chance of legacy getting smacked :).

** who is the one that told you baccus and abydos were together

Since I'm Tom From Myspace (not really) I will give the winner a free myspace account with so many friends you won't know what to do with them.

(THEY'RE ALL LIES!!!!!!!!!!DON'T TRUST ME!!!!!!!!!!I WARN YOU!!!!!!!)

Didnt Legacy get beaten last era?  I thought so.. wasnt that long ago :}

Sir RA, Hi, good to see your awake, yeah they have 800k + troops sitting in the legacy area now, will clean them out pretty quick.

You claim this is the way this game is played. However, i've never seen anything like this in my entire time here! This is a statement that disgusts me and i personally disagree to its claims which is an attempt to justify the actions of Only U!

I accept the fact that people have started in recent times to tolerate an unhonourable style to play. However, i personally am sickened by this development, and take distance from the actions which are discribed in this declearation! During my time fighting Legacy, i justified my fight with declearing them a suppressing kingdom which worked as an imbalancing force in this game. I remember people claiming Legacy, or Mafia their predecessors were pure evil. I remember that some even claimed the old Z's as unhonorouble. By that i'm not saying i agreed. Actually i disagreed, seeing the Legacy bunch we see today are players who all take their reputation seriously, and avoid acting unhonoroubly.

I remember in the era of drunk, which is now a long time ago. Me and my cousin made a kingdom which decleared war upon Mafia, the predecessor of Legacy. We soon were forced to sign a nap treaty with them seeing they were already in official war with another kingdom. We were flamed badly, eventhough Mafia probobly would handle us. Though at the moment, our kingdom which consisted of new players actually thought we could win, however we signed the nap! Due to the fact that our decleration was unhonorouble.

Currently numourous kingdoms have plotted against Legacy, and some has actually decleared their disputes officially! This is an outrage, and i wish to express my disgust towards these recent developments in this statement. However, i don't seem to find words in the English vocabulary which are apropriate... The table has turned, and i hereby officially declear Legacy a power of good and  of justice, while the coalition which have secretly plotted against them representatives of true evil. I consider the statement which the Only U kingdom has expressed in this post illegal! These are the words of me. and myself alone. I do not speak on behalf of my kingdom in this matter. Nevertheless, for what it's worth, here's my opinion. And you may do with it as you like.

Adelbert

legacy's rep isnt on the line, i dont feel. we all know of their power, strategy, and all around perfect (is that too far?) play. if they lose this era, everyone will know it was due to kingdoms ganging up on them. no respect lost, just a necessary action by the others.

of course, that is only if they do lose :)

sure,  but what are we to do?  say that noone can attack lgc? becuase we are?  you'll always have opportunists ... nothing you can do about them, just kill them next time.   and do you think it is wise to let lgc run freely? picking of kd's one at the time? who gives you the insurance that you will hold when you let them grow stronger on other kd's they took over? the more lgc takes over, the stronger they get, while the rest gets weaker ... so ... what is best? wait in line and get slaughtered or try to do something?

don't be like sheep!  be a cow!

We (NARRSE/Rumour) don't have the time to devote to the game we had previously so are playing on Mantrax this era.

Consequently, I have no idea what's happening on Fant. Can someone fill me in on what these 'developments' are please?

@ Adelbert

"...seeing the Legacy bunch we see today are players who all take their reputation seriously, and avoid acting unhonoroubly."

I really like that last part, I got a good laugh out of it.  You at LGC may take your reputations seriously, and a few of you I can see that, however a large majority of you are just arrogant jerks and can't carry on a normal conversation without flaming everyone for talking every other word.  Un-honorable action does not just take place on the battlefield, it is everywhere you go and anything that you do in this game....anywhere.  Just because you are on the forums does not mean you can just forget about "un-honorable" actions because now more than ever, since it is in written word, people are watching you and have proof of exactly how you conduct yourselves.

"Legacy has always upheld the norms of which we play by. Honour and justice has always been their guidelines."

Yes, I agree, Honor among thieves and Justice for everyone but you, I am in full agreement.  "Sir, your horse is bleeding, seems you've been kicking him too hard, you may want to get off, it's pretty high up there, could be a long fall."  Where exactly do you get off on the whole honor and justice of LGC because for as long as I have played I've seen none from you.

(for all of you who are going to ask, when I reference "you", I am speaking of LGC as a whole)

adelbert remember Ra is in abydos not only you...we went after lgc for our own reasons....we don't care if we win or if we lose we just like to enjoy the game, we haven't made any alliances with other kingdoms to bring down lgc, this is all just speculative talk. Only you can play how they wish to play, honorable or not these methods are not illegal so the powerhouse of lgc im sure can deal with it, if not they can learn from this and find ways of it not happening again. Like maybe not being so trusting etc...

So far i have enjoyed playing against lgc i havent played like this i a long long time and it rekindled some of the fun of the older days, i have also realised while playing them that i certainly am not the player i used to be.

I wish lgc a good continued fight, good luck against all your enemies but just remember this, it is just a game....lets just enjoy it eh?

Why you say? Why this coalition is illegal?
I'll tell you, its beacause a 7th (or more) of Fantasia is in this so called coalition. Im not blaiming every KD of being cowards, but the acts of Only U is blimey cowardly. I personally think acting friendly towards LGC, just to be on their good side, and then wait for them to attack another one.(In this case Abydos, whom declared eachother) While you are lurking with some huge armies on the other side of their borders is unhonourable. Abydos have Justified their actions through a Declaration, so LGC can be prepared, and they might have had the monks on their side aswell. I mean, its ok to me that half the map attacks Legacy but not declaring this war againts them. Thats just disgusting. Because that leaves LGC undefended, unprepeared. Even if you win, what is there to win? A better spot on the rankings. Bloody *beep* the rankings, who cares. You will not win any honor or any respect through these actions. If LGC were warned about your attacks, their walls would be defended, and armies sent out the crush you, or atleast given a good fight. Through all times of VU history, Declaring a KD before attacked has been consider a LAW.
I agree with Oya, its a game enjoy it. But Oya, you think its fun to fight againts LGC when the other side of their Core is being penetrated by an enemy LGC didn't even consider a threat? You will not be known for the guys who defeated them, nearly one of the KD's who stroke LGC while some other guys, cowardly made their move when LGC's eye where fiksed upon you.
Anyways, Good Luck LGC

Roxbury & Legacy <3<3<3<3<3<3

Toke

ehm, then what are you looking for? Some nice stats?

like i said toke, to enjoy the game simple as that, i have made lots of friends over the years i have no need to make myself look good

Adelbert. Please tell me how we are unhonorable.
Preying on the weak, tell me if that is unhonorable?
Preying on the strong's weaknesses, is that unhonorable?
Preying on a kingdom while it is busy on another front, is that uhonorable?
I would call it good tactics and I would call it good fun.
But you would have us messege them would you?
"Ohh, LGC dudes. We are gathering some troops here to attack you. Why dont you finish off those other kds and send us a PM when you have relocated all your forces to this front so we can get this war started. Aight?"

Only U is a kingdom of new players, and on behalf of our members I would like to thank the good folks in North Empire(Agurkas in particular), MAD, Checkmate, EVA and Legacy for the possibility to hone our skills while crossing swords. It is what the game is about, it is just, and not hypocrytical at all. Also I am amused to see you compare us to OWN Adelbert, but to think that we are overpowering all the other players of the server(the reason the anti-own alliances where created) is really quite far out.

Ohh. And just becouse someone has accoused someone else of something, that means you can accouse us of same something? We also entered the fight for our own reasons: We needed a target and LGC's large mines are in reach. Isnt that what war is always about? In real life as well as in this game.
Money.

Toke.
The reason for this thread was to tell LGC I am sorry about the misunderstanding. I only had one convo with Roxbury in wich I clearly said that if we did not get a NAP with LGC we would be forced to align with other powers. Even after that I tried to coerce them into attacking MAD since they where our common enemy(something LGC also tried to do with us, but against Carnage). But we did actually do very little to make LGC feel we where their friends. Not attacking everything around you directly eventhough you are planning to later is common practice. You attack one kingdom at the time untill there are no more enemies or untill you are dead. This was what we did. We ignored LGC and they did the same towards us - we had no formal relations.

Now, someone might think this appology isnt even needed. But some of these guys are really serious about this game(much moreso than me) and have apparently have deep scars in their soles, and this was not what I intended.(Also i was counting on some flaming wich is always good to see. Mostly becouse there are always so many ppl who doesnt know half the story who comes in and make stupid remarks).

/Augh

:o your still alive arien.....

Did i compare only u to OWN? either i've written poorly so that people can't understand my message, or someone has misinterpreted my posts!

And yes, it is unhonorouble to go on declearing a KD already torn by an era of war on several fronts, being hugely outnumbered. If every KD fighting lgc atm had decleared abydos, i would get just as angry. But if you did so the whole of VU would call u names! Eventhough Abydos actually is quite close to lgc in strenght.

Adel:
"By doing this you are becoming what the anti-own coalition defined as evil!"

Oh come on guys - some of us are on bloody Mantrax - how about a brief one paragraph summary for those of us who can't see the fantasia map.

Pretty please?  :)

Lord Osiris Report 4/19/2007 4:52:44 PM

ok prologue IE and LGC go at it...  IE sort of... a little bit.... get owned...  step 1 Abydos make war dec in thread with ubersexy song step 2 Lgc get really mad over thread step 3 we fight step 4 after a week or so of fighting only u and baccus attack lgc

Yup, just to heat up the discussion, Russia, US, and GB ganged up on the Axis, isn't that considered unhounourable?

Did LGC start it with IE?