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I regret to inform the Holy Cow movement that I will be leaving the Kingdom.  It was a great pleasure playing with each and everyone of you to this point this Era, but i've received an incentive I cannot resist.

During my leave - I will offer the following:
36hours of non-engagement and I will not join another clan during that time. 
No attacking the Holy Cow core - no matter my affiliation.
No sharing of insider information with new contacts.

These may be broken if I am attacked.  While the whole of Holy Cows members will not be attacked, I will seek retribution from any individual who chose to confront me.

The failed cow herder - Cato June.
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We give you protection, defence, and guide you... You hide, you sneak, you build a huge army in the dark, protected, #3 HOH list.  You plot behind our backs, you decieve, and now you stab the heart that fed you from within.

You are worth less, in my eyes, than the *beep* on my boots.

Vermin. Rat. Traitor. Traitor to self, traitor to friend, traitor to country.  To be a traitor is the worst kind of evil, the most vile, and you will burn for this.

ONCE A TRAITOR, ALWAYS A TRAITOR!

I fear for the kingdom that offered him refuge.

You have fallen victim to the nameless who perpertrates this every era...

jeepers ppl...u call that a traitor???? i would be happy if cato were a member in our kingdom and offered those terms upon leaving...that sounds like an honourable person to me...a traitor is one who leaves and then attacks you, get ur definitions straight before accusing and slandering a perons good name.

No......

Call me when he posts your forums up for public view and burns all your towns, but for now he did the very best he could at keeping civil on the way out the door.

L-O-L... *writes down the bit about the nailgun* effin classic....

Fair one, Mr M.  Also curious what the "incentive" was that he couldn't refuse - he had a Viceroy position anyway - were they offering him gold as well????  All the same, if he keeps to those terms then it's not the sin of the century.

Well this happened at the best of times! Hooray for lady Luck. Sigh...

My quote of the day;

"Your always miss 100% of the shots you dont take,

but statisicly speaking, your miss 99% you do take."

i think music will be his next kd. :)

lmao you posted your troops numbers....

Mr. Nobiggie

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12/15/2007 1:33:32 PMwow.. thats really fast... even Music didnt die yet

so at 1:24pm - you said music is dead
and at 1:33pm music was resurrected!

That's faster than Jesus Christ

Careful all - this is the thread of communications between me and Might as well as the group I shall join here shortly.  The transcripts are a bit long - but can you blame a long winded wee one?

The first conversation is with Might after I relinquished my association with Holy Cows.  I had high hopes for the KD, but truly I must admit we missed some crucial players that would have made this a non-issue.  Might and Holy Cows are not to blame for that, even though they feel my actions cause them suffering.

Mr. Might The God of Cows [HC] (12/14/2007 9:20:13 PM)
I see you are going to try and take us from the inside. ohASJIDHAIU~U!b ~!BUIB !!!!!!111! Anyway! I am now going to destroy your reputation and destroy any kingdom that accepts yous reputation. I hope you enjoy your time in VU!
You (12/14/2007 9:23:13 PM)
I have no intention of attacking your core...unless provoked. Even after the 36 hour period I still have no intentions of attacking Holy Cow territory...of course unless provoked. i was pleased by this group - but we did lose a couple players that would have made things better for us this era...holy cows belongs in Mantrax and *fist* to the admin that forced us here. Carnage will be attacking us soon...peacekeepers have a pact with carnage. I will most likely even protect you if I am able too...but i do have a sizable army near the core in the case anyone gets foolish with me. Cato June
Mr. Might The God of Cows [HC] (12/14/2007 9:24:09 PM)
Why did you leave if you plan to not attack us?
You (12/14/2007 9:28:36 PM)
Listen - we did stand a somewhat chance with Massive and that dude from last era that ditched. We unfortunately had to adopt quite a few *beep*s who have no idea what they are doing. I'm playing a weak race and cannot support with military really. I want to stay in Fantasia since this is the first time i feel like I'm understanding the game. Mantrax would have been fun with Holy Cows...but the near future does not bode with for us with a bunch of *beep*s and a couple veteran kd bearing down on us. Besides carnage and legacy are to our south and both have already begun attacks on our outposts. I'm trying to survive and no offense to you...we were screwed by having to come to fantasia. no hard feelings - and of course I won't be absorbing any territory unless otherwise asked or provoked to. best regards cato june
Mr. Might The God of Cows [HC] (12/14/2007 9:31:03 PM)
LGC is giving back the territory and we have a CF with them. ZEOn and LGC are going to help us with Carnage. Phi is not at war with us. The only thing we really have to fight is PKS. So your blaming me about coming to Fantasia and your punishing me AND your destroying the morale AND I thought you were a trusted vice what were you thinking?
You (12/14/2007 9:35:01 PM)
I did not mean to hurt your feelings - I was not asked to be vice - It was not your fault for coming to fantasia the admins forced it we did not know we would lose a couple players (and you are not to blame for that) I apologize for the moral drop This is not a punishment to you. I do not think this group is strong enough yet to survive here and I would like to remain. Again this is not a criticism to you or your leadership. It is a shame the admin made us start here. I do not wish to have strained relations with Holy Cows - Cato
Mr. Might The God of Cows [HC] (12/14/2007 9:37:10 PM)
Then why did you leave? Do you expect us to just let you prosper in our core? Or protect you from the larger kingdoms out there? You also further strained our defenses.
You (12/14/2007 9:38:55 PM)
I've made my decision - Again you made decide as you feel fit, but realize I have no intentions of running rampant over your core. Cato June

the next conversation occurred with Grim Darkhammer regarding the upcoming and eventual situation.  I am not a stranger to his clans workings and upstanding behavior.  In any other situation, I would not have disavowed myself of the commitments at hand.

If we can communicate in confidence - perhaps we should talk. If no confidence is extended, best of luck in this era. Cato June
Sir Grim Darkhammer [PKS] (12/14/2007 3:05:15 PM)
Cato June Yes, I'm certain we can message confidentially. How may I help you? Grim Darkhammer
You (12/14/2007 3:08:39 PM)
I am looking for strength in my allies. It is obvious to me that Holy Cows does not have the strength promised. There is also some communication issues with our KD as I am a Vice, but was never asked nor told to be. As I look at what our group has done, the performance is lack luster. I am looking to join a bit more respectable group as I have quite a lot to offer. In a past life we did have quite the battle - Raek W'an of Predators was my previous identity. Let me know your thoughts. Cato June
Sir Grim Darkhammer [PKS] (12/14/2007 4:11:28 PM)
Yes, I remember you from our battles with Predators. I can present your request to my council & kingdom as we make these type decisions together. But, understand that if you were to leave Holy Cows you would be able to defend yourself from their attacks on you but, not start attacking their core. This is something we all feel strongly about. Leaving a kingdom is one thing but to start attacking your old kingdom mates would make you a traitor and a backstabber which is something we cant abide. Let me know if you would like me to present your request. Honorably Grim Darkhammer
You (12/14/2007 4:23:22 PM)
Grim, I fully understand Peacekeepers stance on the issue of traitors. While I would be able to agree to not attack the Holy Cows core, I will not be able to agree to that indefinitely. In the case of joining Peacekeepers, I would notify my clan and provide them with 24hour notice. At that point then I would join your clan. If they attack my grounds during that 24 hour gateway period, then those that attack me are open game once I join Peacekeepers. I would prefer to hold out a while before bringing this up with your council. I wanted to begin discussions with you first as I am fully confident Peacekeepers will absorb the Holy Cow core eventually. The difference will be if I raise my weapons against you, or allow a takeover to occur. Your kd would eventually kick my butt as well, but the take over of Holy Cow territory would cause a serious delay to Peacekeeper growth efforts and I would prefer to join a group that has objectives, strength in character and knowledgeable players instead of feebly attempting to defend a core and group of players that do not stand a chance. (this kd was supposed to be on Mantrax, but was forced into Fantasia...at that point we had a couple people bail and picked up a gaggle of *beep*s - I agreed to stay at the beginning, but made it clear I might not remain). Cato June
Sir Grim Darkhammer [PKS] (12/14/2007 5:23:50 PM)
I believe we may be able to work out something on that but it may be better with a 48 hr notice between leaving Holy Cows and joining Peacekeepers. And I would of course ask our members not to attack you during this time. I will wait for word from you before presenting your request to our kingdom. I do ask that if you decide to leave Holy Cows you be open as to why you are leaving and inform Might of your plans. Let him make the decision as to whether he wants to start attacking you or leave you out of our war. The war with HC may go more quickly than you think depending on our relations with other kingdoms in the area. Honorably Grim
You (12/14/2007 8:22:37 PM)
You may bring up the idea of my joining the PeaceKeeper nation with the council. If they reject, I have already notified my KD I will be leaving Holy COws, and that I will not attack any Holy Cow unless provoked by an attack by them. I look forward to the opportunity of playing with respectable and very knowledgeable players (from my recollection). Carnage isn't quite my cup of tea, but steadfast and knowledge go a long way, and I feel i have much to contribute to the Peacekeeper cause. Cato June
Sir Grim Darkhammer [PKS] (12/14/2007 8:45:46 PM)
OK, I posted our messages in the PKS forum and we will be discussing it. BTW all but 4 (5 if you join) of PKS work together. So the discussion will be completed probably late tomorrow. Grim
You (12/14/2007 8:47:40 PM)
sounds good - i gave Holy Cows 36 hours and the stipulation that I will not attack them unless provoked. I have one of the leader armies sitting near their core for security. They would be foolish to attack me.
Sir Grim Darkhammer [PKS] (12/15/2007 2:00:44 AM)
I'm sure you have seen Might's post in the forum about you. I propose posting our entire conversation in the forum to show that you are trying to be as honorable as possible. You have my full permission to do so. So far everyone that has posted about your acceptance into Peacekeepers has been in agreement. If you are attacked send me the report and submit you application right after. I cant guarantee it but we may take you in early. Grim
You (12/15/2007 2:23:27 AM)
I will post both your and my conversation + Might and my conversation as it follows the same path. Thank you much - and I have a scout checking out my territories right now. Hoongfu - Carnage Spotter ***********END TRANSMISSION********* I have no intentions of dishonoring my word.  If provoked, I will defend myself, otherwise I have begun to seek another path. Cato June

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would you like to join a kd in fant Mr. Cato June?

traitor .. not quite ...
cowardly a bit ... maybe ...

I would remained by my king and my fellows until the end. Or at least until I`ve died. die with your KD ... go to mantrax, zeta, talk there to PKS and resign and restart in Fant near them.

By this means, fleeding under PKS banner ... is a bit dishonorable ... from there is the cowardly part. But in the clear thing that he wouldn`t attack old KD mates, a traitor he is not.
There are still parts missing. Why did Cato arrived in this position?! There are a bit too much missing info.

From what I have understood and explain my opinion about Cato is:
traitor .. not quite ...
cowardly a bit ... maybe ...

good luck Cato in the future ...

@Umbar ... big words are to be held with big actions. Are u up to it?

Sir Grim Darkhammer [PKS] (12/14/2007 4:11:28 PM)
Yes, I remember you from our battles with Predators. I can present your request to my council & kingdom as we make these type decisions together. But, understand that if you were to leave Holy Cows you would be able to defend yourself from their attacks on you but, not start attacking their core. This is something we all feel strongly about. Leaving a kingdom is one thing but to start attacking your old kingdom mates would make you a traitor and a backstabber which is something we cant abide. Let me know if you would like me to present your request. Honorably Grim Darkhammer

Read Umbar

Umbar ... take Cato one-on-one with in a 48 hours! let the armies talk for you ...
No one helps any of you! And fighting against you .. Santa pointed out what was quite obvious! Doh!

(double post for some reason =/)

Actually I heard last era was his first, of course I could have that confused.

Well Lelouch... the first post just sounded as something a Legacy player would say :P

Cato June is a sick linebacker for the Indianapolis Colts... He dominates all, save for perhaps Lance Briggs and Brain Urlacher... ;)

Because Phi is not at war with us, and you attacking us, is dishonorable.

you do not honor the intentions of your leaders.

they harbor someone disrespectful, and thus, it dirties their name.

if you join an empire, you should follow the EMPIRE'S desires, not your own.

Because Phi is not at war with us,

If you arent NAPed or MAPed with them then you are at war with them

When i look at a player he is either a friend or a foe. Unless a Kingdom has an agreement not to attack you then you are fair game and should be wary of any KD.

And yes, you see it. A DB member fighting the corner of PHI.

One for the scrapbooks ppl.