kingdom of hearts decided to NAP my kd....and now, suprise is going back on his word...prepping on my members cities and he took my main mine!

Wallet

City Info
Owner:	Mr. Surprise
Size:	39416 building(s).
Kingdom:	Kingdom of Hearts
Gates:	open

that WAS mine...

12:18:12

Killer lead by Mr. Surprise attacked and took over Wallet. Our peasants managed to escape with all the resources to Hafa. We lost 0 Hobgoblins, 0 Rockthrowers, 0 Warlords, 0 Mages and 0 Berserkers and 0 peasants in the battle.

Mr. Surprise (8/16/2009 12:51:43 PM)
Ok i need your answer now.
You (8/16/2009 8:30:12 PM)
no answer from boom so... yeah... i guess its a NAP era long, and if you really need more room, dont settle south of chicken feed plz...btw moses is stil prepping
You (8/16/2009 9:18:13 PM)
lol...just passing but look Shock Troopers with 16936 soldiers awaiting your orders, Your Grace... The enemy has 6887 soldiers armed with Enhanced weapons and handmade dwarven armor. They have 0 peasants traveling with them. We have 100% chance winning this battle.
Mr. Surprise (8/16/2009 10:13:56 PM)
moses hasn't logged in for days now
You (8/17/2009 6:46:35 AM)
ok
You (8/17/2009 5:30:21 PM)
if we are naped why are you attacking and why did you take my city? i want that back so plz move troops out of it

he just msged me and said "we never agreed on terms"

a NAP means dont attack the other kd!
you've got to be kidding me

Windscar, didn't you know...it was all supposed to be a surpriiiise!

Send your minions after Surprise, Vuggy.

according to what you have there he took your city then asked for an answer(maybe to put some heat on coz you were taking so long) but the attack has no date reference anyhow.

you then continued talking for a day and a half about the nap and not about a city taken..so it looks like you didnt miss your city coz it took 2 days to notice it was gone before some agreement to nap.i am sure mr surprise will take care of it better and not forget he has it.

well man i gave the order to attack you guys way before you even messaged me. I messaged you a while back but you never answered. You are really inactive. You want a NAP after i attacked which is not right.

No NAP goes through without the headvices vote for it.

I was gone for a little bit sorry for having RL things to do

this is what happened i offered then NAP waited a day for a reply then i got bored and demanded an answer cause we couldn't wait longer. Then after a day we got bored of waiting the reply and we gave the order to attack. Once we moved our armies i received that above message. Since we already decided to attack the NAP was void cause it was too late. It's not my fault the leader of the Randomers is too inactive otherwise we would have honored our NAP. You gotta understand i can't just tell my members attack stop then attack and then stop again that would make me look bad and make everyone angry.

then wouldnt it make sense to tell him its void...

His name isnt Surprise for nothing :P

i have 2 things...

• 8 hours is not a day.. it's actualy a good nights sleep of the average day at work
• And i could see everything, even if your army's had already started moving before the nap had been agreed on,they hadn't left your base, with the exception of the one army you had had prepping on one of their towns for a very long time already
• and one more thing... YOUR are the only one attacking, mr. Edd is now that he took out my area, but other then that it's all you... unless there is stuff happening out side my LOS, but man you need to have better control over your self =P 
  

Erm.. no...
A NAP can have a lot of different terms and not both sides may agree with the same set of terms. So first they have to discuss it and reach an agreement... But if you're going to offer a NAP, you shouldn't continue attacking unless the other KD attacks you..

i watched the whole thing because i wanted a NAP with Windscar to help fight hearts... i asked him if he was still interested in the nap and he told me he had just accepted the NAP from hearts, then he proceeded to pull ALL his armies back. then 16 hours after he pulled back his armies he gets attacked...

Soba does bring up a good point...

It seems Midgard has gone into choas ..... :P

HOW DARE YOU ATTACK THE KD IN MY NAME, YOU WILL ALL DIE!!!! FEAR MY FARMING SKILLS!!!!

You mean that 'kingdom hearts gang' that ripped it off from 'Fordius' kingdom hearts'?

No Mielo, it was just called Kingdom Hears... not "gang". It was ruled by Mr. Sorra, I don't know if they "ripped off" anyone.

damn you Vuggy, my life is now over because of everything you have caused :'(

Mr. Surprise Report 10:23:31 Aug 18th 09

1. I proposed the NAP 3-4 days ago and Windscar said he'd think about it so nothing was established. 2. He proposed a temporary CF for the time being in which we agreed to move off our armies which i did and messaged everyone and posted in the forums not to attack. The only one who was still prepping was moses but he is inactive. 3. My members were concerned about the CF and urged me to either NAP or attack them. 4. After 24 hours i sended messages to duke windscar and waited quite a while not really sure how long and i don't feel like looking it up. 5. I gave the order to attack Because there was no reply and we weren't going to wait for them to build armies around. 6. I get the message from duke Windscar saying he wants to NAP but it's too late cause i already took a city and prepped on another. I think i pretty much covered everything.

it was only 8 hours! thats not ery long if you have a life away from vu like myself

i'm pretty sure your army way always prepping on 'Pasta' i didn't see it move till within 24 ticks of you breaking the NAP...

but if i'm mistaken i'm sure Windscar can clear that up for me...

Here's something that could have solved everything.  If that city was so valuable to you, I would have put more defence in it.  Especially if you aren't the most active person, because you never know how long you may be gone and what could happen during that time.

Now, other than that, Surprise did offer it, and he should not have attacked.  Even a day and a half isn't time enough to give to someone when offering a NAP, because some real life events could come up.  What if he was gone so long because he was involved in a car accident?  Basically, give him a bit more elbow room with something like this, especially since you (Surprise) did offer the NAP.

Then again, that is only my humble opinion.  Surprise may have been a bit on the dishonorable side, but it wasn't illegal.  So as I said, put some more troops in your more valuable cities.

in the end of the day though this is still just a game, and it is caled a WAR game not a sit down do nothing and make peace with everyone game, were not all FATE'rs

jk lol, X D