A Fate player, Inchalion, has just turned traitor on his own kingdom. His armies are now marching to take out Fate blockers and expose them to their enemies.

I was told that this happened completely out of the blue. No warnings, no clues given, no messages, nothing. Fate players had completely no inkling that this guy would turn traitor. As a matter of fact, he was a solid player and healthy participant in Fate's forums / social fabric. They thought they had landed a solid recruit here.

Now to their great shock and detriment, they have been thrust into a nightmarish situation. A situation that would turn into a death spiral if Fate's enemies were to take advantage of this situation.

Now, I do not know this Inchalion player, nor do I know his reasons for turning traitor. But the whole damn thing smells fishy to me. No display of dissatisfaction, no disgruntled posts or messages sent by him. Like I said... all out of the blue.

Whole chain of events look pretty... coordinated, eh?

Well, if he really is a multie / spy put in place by another kingdom, let me tell it straight out here. That is the most FARKING CHEAP SHOT STUNT that can be pulled in this game. Putting in a traitor and making him attack his own kingdomates is way above multieing and kingdom hopping (albeit peacefully) in my books.

I am a strong believer in karma... and I say this... whoever did this will get their own payback one day. Payback may not come in this game, but you will face a situation in your life reminiscence of what you have done here.


P.S. It is not my intention to call out any particular kingdom here. Fate has more than one enemy, so do not assume that I am pointing my finger directly at you / your kingdom. Fate and I have no evidence as to who the perpretrator is, or what are his motives and goals, so this is just a general call out based on the circumstancial evidence gathered.

P.S.S. I am not from Fate. However, they have been my kingdom's allies for 2 eras now, and I have many good friends and players that I respect in there. The reason I am making this post is because I am aware that the same damn thing could happen to my kingdom or to any other kingdoms out there. This is something that I WOULD NEVER WISH upon ANY kingdom.

P.S.S.S. Damn all traitors. Bloody gameplay destroyers.

Alls fair in love and war. Spying is part of war. Ive been in kds that have had spies in other kds. We knew production, troops, sciences, city locations, armories etc etc.

Since when did spying become the same as leaving your kingdom and attacking them? Both are traitors, but the first one does not attack...merely gives info.

@Right hand and Erebus: I appreciate the sentiment:S I have been playing this game for a long time, and i have seen this happen before, albeit not to myself. The last time i remember something like this on Fant was during the 'fake conhdinho' fiasco involving azaruc and mirror.

Shame though that a kingdom's work all era is now completely vulnerable due to the actions of a rogue traitor...

and some of the newer players in the game wonder now why many of the fant kingdoms dont bring in new players, guess we learned our lesson.

Used to be that this sort of thing was considered below contempt by most of the vu community....or at least the older guard in the game.

We'll survive, isnt over yet, not by a longshot:)

Frankie, I hope the bullcrap that happened to Fate never happens to your kingdom and your kingdomates.

You on the other hand...........

Duke Michael Deallus Report 1/10/2009 10:14:49 PM

Since when did spying become the same as leaving your kingdom and attacking them? Both are traitors, but the first one does not attack...merely gives info.

And when it was time for our attack he left the kd and joined ours so we had blockers under our control.

And no i do trust ppl but very few.

So you accepted a KD hopper?

Lol considering we had a max of 3 ppl in that kd i really didnt care considering both were school pals. We just remade the kd every era. Now we are playing this game less and less and migrating to tribal wars.

And this has happened to me before. And they took 4 of our best players with them. We killed them ofc but thats why im the way i am in leading now.

Duke Michael Deallus Report 1/10/2009 10:22:45 PM

So you accepted a KD hopper?

And not a kd hopper a very good friend of the kds leader who we put in our foe kd in the beginning of the era. He set up blockers, trained troops gave us info and left them defensless when we attacked. 3 of the 5 blockers they had immedietly came in our control and we swarmed their core.. Im not saying i approve of it, the first time the kd did it i was ashamed and left at the end of the era. Im just saying ppl should prepare for it instead of getting cought with their pants around their ankles. Im sorry it happened to you guys tho.

Ill advise Justan of what happened and talk to him about that Red Wolf.

 *gets torches and pitch forks*

Frankie, no offence mate, but what you did (or rather, what happened) in your past is really really... lame... and that is an understatement.

Call me idealistic, but when I join a kingdom, I make a commitment to that kingdom, and they make a commitment to me. We fight together, prosper together, suffer together and live and die together.

But perhaps in today's selfish world, very few people hold true to these values now, eh?

And again, I am not too worried about that Inchalion guy being stomped out of the game forever. I still have quite a significant amount of fate (ironic?) in the VU community, and there are many decent folks here who would turn their backs on these kind of players.

What I am worried of however, is whether Inchalion was a spy / multie planted by an enemy of Fate. I make my assumptions based on the following evidence:

1. Everything was going fine and dandy between him and his kingdom. No signs or clues as to unhappiness or being disgruntled.

2. His defection came out all of a sudden. Again, no signs, no clues nor warnings.

3. His immediate attack targets were Fate blockers.

Thus, it is fairly conclusive to me that this guy was either a multie / spy from the very start, or was converted to one by an enemy.

If this is so, than the person or kingdom (I doubt it is a kingdom though) who did this or engineered this... shame on you... seriously seriously shame on you...

If you do not trust anyone, don't make a KD until you can.  Learn what people you can and cannot trust...don't just dive head first into leadership...experience is a good thing to accumulate first...trust is an important factor in a KD
"Can I trust this person to make a blocker here? Can I trust this person to actually fill it? ect"

If you don't think people will actually do things to help the KD...then ouch.

NO IM NOT KAT FORGET THAT!!!!!!! lol sorry that part sucked of that era. Cant tell you who i am tho.

Duke Michael Deallus Report 1/10/2009 10:52:21 PM

If you do not trust anyone, don't make a KD until you can.  Learn what people you can and cannot trust...don't just dive head first into leadership...experience is a good thing to accumulate first...

And i dont jump into leadership. 20 eras of experience have tought me alot. But I get the 4 ppl in the game that i do trust and get them together to amke a kd with just 5 ppl. 3 play orc, 1 plays elf and the other 2 dwarfs. Then they get ppl they know and trust and vouche for them. Thats how we build our kds. I wont be running a kd any time soon since 2 of them quit.

Ah, I hate how everyone starts a new account or they quit the game for an era and return.  All I see of most people's history isn't their entire history...

And i dont jump into leadership. 20 eras of experience have tought me alot. But I get the 4 ppl in the game that i do trust and get them together to amke a kd with just 5 ppl. 3 play orc, 1 plays elf and the other 2 dwarfs. Then they get ppl they know and trust and vouche for them. Thats how we build our kds. I wont be running a kd any time soon since 2 of them quit.

Wow, you suck. Sorry I couldnt think of anything clever. In Eras past, Dwarf was almost definitively better in all ways then Orcs (worse now), 5 man kds are *beep*, and you sound skidish and that move of spying is a low blow. 20 eras have not taught you anything. Honestly, why ever have a spy? That is just wrong.

I know I sound overly hostile, but that is just so low on your part.

Who wants to target the scum of VU? The First Era of Purification should pop up sometime...

I already sent a message to Justan to keep a look out for him.  No brutii quit

I already sent a message to Justan to keep a look out for him.  No brutii quit VU as well.

I already sent a message to Justan to keep a look out for him.  No brutii quit VU as well. Ive actually

I already sent a message to Justan to keep a look out for him.  No brutii quit VU as well. Ive actually been meaning to

I already sent a message to Justan to keep a look out for him.  No brutii quit VU as well. Ive actually been meaning to go kill

0_o       i think people should hunt him down!! sadly i wont join the hunt as im clinging to my archers in hopes of riding out a war currently but ill help in the hunt next era XD      good thinking wolf ;-D


which enemy could he be working for? shouldnt they be also blackballed from naps or something at least the vices and current leader?


and frankie trusts some people guys your all blowing things out of proportion he is a good player and loyal. he has always followed orders and has the best intentions for the kingdom in mind in my experience with him.   =-D

Don't keep hitting space bar ;)  Blowing things out of proportion? O_o He said the words himself basically...but it is late...and I am tired.  Won't be on for awhile :(

the silence of your absence charlie will be deafening  XD

Duke Michael Deallus Report 1/11/2009 12:08:51 AM

Don't keep hitting space bar ;)  Blowing things out of proportion? O_o He said the words himself basically...but it is late...and I am tired.  Won't be on for awhile :(

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