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death to zeon
23:05:02 Sep 23rd 07 - Lord Yerean:

Mr. Mcikan is casting the armageddon spell from Zeons Wrath located in Fantasia. Unless the city is destroyed Armageddon will be started in all worlds 239 days from today!


KILL IT!!! NOWWWW!


23:14:22 Sep 23rd 07 - Mr. Relictor:

stupid decision IMO..this era is just starting to get interesting..and zeon are just starting to fight...shock horror! Boooooo farmers


23:16:12 Sep 23rd 07 - Mr. Onuris:

We still got 2 whole weeks to play :)

-Rob


23:27:12 Sep 23rd 07 - Mr. Barny:

If you guys don't like it, you can all TRY to destroy the town.

Oh and Relictor... why are you complaining? Your kd will get likely get destroyed by Carnage if arma doesn't get cast.


23:49:39 Sep 23rd 07 - Lord Yerean:

umm...
now...

QUESTION!:
when arma is cast, scores arent frozen right?
and after arma is cast, prepping times on cities are removed?
anythin else that happens?

if all are 'yes', then arma is good thing :D
we'll reach zeon muuuuch faster :P


00:40:22 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Smuff:

reall?! we're NOT in teh same kingdom. dam. i thought we were. what is happening there then? faming and hording for your arma?

as Anchorite said. we've been fighting for 2 weeks and only now Messiah sends aid. moreover there has been a carnage invasion of BoW in the far east side of the map (if thats what you mean about different fronts) and again only now is aid getting there.

AND, what all this LOS crap? i mean what the hell is LOS anyway >;P

/smuff crawls back into his spawn pit to contemplate how to piss off the holy of all hols, messiah further

 

EDIT: really Mav? it must be all this LOS crap again. ;P


00:47:07 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Blue Dog Anchorite:

@Mavich: Hate to disagree with you brother, but it hasnt exactly been their "all"...not for them being the #2 kingdom....if it was their all, then it makes me sad:(

<and again only now is aid getting there> Here i go stating the obvious, but just as arma is casted....


01:38:13 Sep 24th 07 - Ms. Rhiannia II:

thanks alot for ending the era prematurely....

Mr. Barny

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9/23/2007 3:27:12 PM
If you guys don't like it, you can all TRY to destroy the town.

not so easily done from zetamania! this effects ALL worlds! now those of us in Zetamania will never know who the best kingdom really was.....armegeddon STINKS...it is for COWARDS!!!!


01:50:17 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

As much as I'd like Zeon to have held off on Arma so wars could be more conclusively fought, I accept their ability to cast Arma as a feature Zeta gave us for a reason.  Zeon has two players in the HoH but it's really Nemesis who dominates it.


02:02:12 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Ject:

Someone just kill zeon, no one wants the era to end just yet ;p


02:30:04 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Hamish:

hummm.. mr M have messaged lots of your players about providing magic support and received few replys - you guys are fighting like WW1 generals down here - only two of your players have taken up the offer of magic support - Cobi and Bathuser and I have cast many spells to help them out.

I had TOTAL magic superiority down here when your first army's arrived - did you do anything? built some city's and sat there while carnage out trained you guys in new troops - it has been embarrassing. They have proper magic defence now - so its a slugging match - I cant help much with that it isent a Elf strong point.

Ps. I dident kill a singal Zeon troop and lost 5 armys to you guys when you attacked BoW citys when ordered by all the vices on-line not to - that was VERY embaracing thing for an NAPed kingdom to do - you guys better eat humble pie and show some fighting spirit/effectiveness in the east.


02:38:47 Sep 24th 07 - Ms. Rhiannia II:

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9/23/2007 5:45:09 PM
You have the option to play on Fantasia, if you dont use it I dont really see how your opnion is relevant.
since Armegeddon effectively stops the era for ALL WORLDS...then my opinion is as relevant as anyone elses....


03:04:08 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Barny:

Boy.. BOW is sure posting a lot in the "Death to Zeon" thread.

I'm sorry that we weren't able to drag BOW's dead weight around... we were dealing with 2 hoh members from BOW that were attacking us...

and then we had an enormous multi revolt...

then we had 8k+ nazzies in our core..

And now we are getting *beep*ed at for not running half way across the map to protect you guys when you couldn't hold 1 blocker with all 36+ of your members.

We have been dealing with problems of our own. We casted arma so you guys WOULDN'T get your asses kicked. And all of zeon didn't send you guys aid because we needed to fill our own blockers for arma, attack in the east, and rebuild after the numerous civil war issues.

Also, there is help coming your way. I know you guys aren't too good at math, or thinking... but here is an equitation for you guys in BOW:

(Long distance) * (big armies) = (long time for armies to arrive)


04:43:04 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Boyhill II:

Age of Mckian...i really don't like the sound of that at all, especially because ZEON are a bunch of wierd guys who believe in a pagan religion.

Either way, in fantasia, this era was crap.  All i can say is pussyfest.  ZEON, Music, and BoW (i am in BoW) alliance is sooo pussy, and Nemisis only says "we fighting DB and Lgc".  kk lol Nemisis, but for real, you need to grow a pear and go to war with our alliance.  Idont care, whatever is holding this thing together, whether it be a NAP sit. or Messiah and Dark Orion are butt buddies (not unlikely), i wanna see a massive war. 

And BoW, i have combat for you a long time, many eras, and I am ashamed to see your performance this era.  I will not traitor or treason to you, as i belive in honour above all, but be rest assured, next era, I will not be coming back. I will be joining carnage, they are not afraid to get thier hands dirty.

Oh, I miss the old days.


04:48:37 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Fizban:

Massive wars (and any real 'wars' for that matter) are a thing of the past now, I'm afraid. Too many mega kds, too many mega alliances. You all can call it, 'Protection against Legacy', however in the end, it only limits the amount of people you really can war against and, imo, limits the amount of 'fun' one would have. Ah well, this game's turned into one giant hoe-off anyways.

Team LGC - Keeping Fantasia from being a total farm-fest since the beginning of VU time. ;-)


05:06:03 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Architect:

Just thinking off the top of my head here, how about everyone who hates Zeon gets together and kills them off before the era ends.  We always end up talking about how we should have don it but we never end up actually doing anything when Arma comes rolling in.  What lets say we all gather what we got a wipe Zeon Clean from the map and enjoy the rest of our era.


06:25:04 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

@Fizban:

How about all of Legacy disbands and form a bunch of new kds that constantly war one another?  Thus "Protection Against Legacy" ends an VU returns to a constant state of warfare :)


06:25:27 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Legend:

yo this era is messed up i hope it ends....then i can start fresh. I am tired of some people yet others are alright


06:33:20 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Fizban:

Um, lemme get this straight Heph. Disband Lgc, make smaller kds, so that the already existing mega kds still exist and can pick the smaller kds off with ease?

In the words of Spock, "That is illogical." In the words of me, "FIREBALL!"  *Fizban fireballs Heph to rid the forums of stupid ideas, or at least to send him to the Suggestions Board where such ideas breed.*


06:53:42 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Spoon:

Odd. Just two Music posts, one was a correction about the amount of Nazguls in Zeons core, and one lil' complain.

But seriously: BoW & Zeon: Quit the *beep*ing fighting. I told you earlier, bear it out. You hate eachother. Stop posting smack about eachother in here.
If you really HAVE TO do this, there is a great PM system ingame..

But please, stop the flaming. We're far beyond our things-we-can-handle limits too you know?


07:04:14 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Soccermage:

about mega-kingdom alliances and all around pussiness. its not just fant, zeta has it too. FA, ritz, AoA, and LDK are all at peace. thats the north of the map. DR, KNOFF, pred wing, and white wolf are all at peace in the south. KNOFF just ended an NAP with Jester so they could kill us with DR. #3 and #4 against #7! well done! what has VU come to?!?!?!?!? a few eras back, 2 NAPs seemed like a lot! MAPs were barely heard of! now they are common, and just divide the map!

lets make a rule for next eras, no MAPs and only 3 NAPs per kingdom! all in favor? sweet, it shall be done!


07:19:37 Sep 24th 07 - Ms. Rhiannia II:

Soccermage...you just grumpy cause we wouldnt agree to a NaP on your conditions....and DR is allied with only one other kingdom...NKOFF...btw...u mispelled it. as for the others...ya i guess they need to merge kingdoms to take on DR....otherwise we would run right over them.......  ; o )


08:03:10 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

Boyhill
A bar of solid gold?? You are really rich then! But seriously, I find it hilarious that you are talking about the "old days" when you in the same post display your utter lack of understanding about this game. You are nothing but a naab with a large mouth. Go ahead and come fighting us, we would purge your ass so good.

Spoon
I dont care if people flame Zeon. But I have a hard time letting retardation pass w/o commenting.

Couple of notes to all:

  • There IS massive war going on. Or atleast war, dont know what is required for it to be massive =(
  • Me and Dark Orion are butt buddies.
  • Me and Fizban are butt buddies.
  • I am architects father, and I'm gonna cut off his hand.


09:18:58 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Architect:

"I am architects father, and I'm gonna cut off his hand."

First off, Nice bulleting.  Second, You forgot to capitalize the "A" in my name.  Third, if you're my father, does that make Fizban my mother?

And, lastly, are you the same Messiah that I pwned with an army of mine a long time ago when I was in Future?  Just wondering.


09:29:40 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Barny:

Hi Arzun, Sieghart (however it's spelt...), and Atreides.

Hows it going in all of your respective kds? Personally I find Zeon to be pretty cool, it's the first acceptable kd since IE.


Back on topic.... Messiah sure has a lot of butt buddies. So when you said you got laid this morning....


12:24:59 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

Architect, if you are thinking about Zeons first era on Mant, that was Love. Dont know what you want to say with that though?


13:00:00 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Boyhill II:

Mr. Messiah

A bar of solid gold?? You are really rich then! But seriously, I find it hilarious that you are talking about the "old days" when you in the same post display your utter lack of understanding about this game. You are nothing but a naab with a large mouth. Go ahead and come fighting us, we would purge your ass so good.

W
Yeah, look, your pussy policy of protection against lgc is really honourable then, right?  Surley you have seen the charts, being the experienced gamer you are...LGC IS 8TH!  Besides, we don't need protection against lgc in fantasia, we need protection against religious fanatics like you. It was YOU who slaughtered the corsairs, and the guardians of destiny.  Not Legacy.  And now, it is YOUR KD which poses a threat to the entire world!  You, tell me who is the danger here.

And, you really dont want us to come and fight, because without this alliance, your nation will crumble. Yeah, you hear that, "oh so powerful one?"  Not so powerful any more without your friends, eh? 


13:48:06 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

LOL. We dont have any policy against LGC. I consider several LGC people to be my friends, but not you. I never heard of you, didnt even see you on the map until you came in here ranting like a lunatic about next era being the era of Mcikan. You are retarded and I will be happy to have you come fight us. I would still have friends, you would still be retarded, arma would still go into effect in a week or so, life would go on on fantasia for some of us.

(ohh, and we killed several more small more or less crappy kds. ce la vie!)


14:03:44 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Hephaestus:

"In the words of Spock, "That is illogical." In the words of me, "FIREBALL!"  *Fizban fireballs Heph to rid the forums of stupid ideas, or at least to send him to the Suggestions Board where such ideas breed.*"

Think about it, isn't it possible to say Legacy has a majority of VU's best players?  Then there's DB which is also a fine bunch, and the two kingdoms acting as sister empires is itself a "mega alliance," not always of points, but of skill itself.

I'm not actually advocating the forced disbanding of Legacy and DB at all.  I'm just pointing out large kds with many alliances seems to be the trend no one is above :)

*Grabs fire extinguisher*


14:09:43 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Fizban:

Eh, let's make a couple things clear.

I'm not Architect's mother. I lack the proper equipment to be such.

I am a 'bum buddy' with Messiah. He pays me $1000 to come over, tie him up, whip him and stick weird plastic objects in his bum. Then I can just leave him there and walk away with the cash. Rather easy job and no secks involved. ;-)


15:26:00 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Boyhill II:

Mr. Messiah

LOL. We dont have any policy against LGC. I consider several LGC people to be my friends, but not you. I never heard of you, didnt even see you on the map until you came in here ranting like a lunatic about next era being the era of Mcikan. You are retarded and I will be happy to have you come fight us. I would still have friends, you would still be retarded, arma would still go into effect in a week or so, life would go on on fantasia for some of us.

(ohh, and we killed several more small more or less crappy kds. ce la vie!)

aYour policy is that Nemisis is NAP'd with your kd until the lot of you destroy Lgc. 

 

You once again show the minuteness of your intelligence. You cannot think of any logical retort to my argument, so you dissassemble and call me a retard.   Very typical of a religious fundamentalist.


15:28:23 Sep 24th 07 - Lord Yerean:

i feel lewt.... my anti-zeon prograpanda is working XD


couple of notes
1. zeon, no matter how long the distance, your so called revolutions, russians joining you (wtf did you let them in? pussy....) and then backstabbin you (btw, i sorta helped with that, but it happened too early, otherwise carnage could have gotten much further)... no matter all that stuff, you should have been able to kill em and start sending armies (no, they don't have to be 5mil attack power, 200k is enuff) at the front...
if you did, you would have met me a week ago...

2. fantasia really is a pussy fest...
here's a quick say of politics:
BoW,Music,Zeon are allied. thats 234% carnage... they also NAP MAD,Nemesis till LGC,DB is dead.
PKS,FF,Carnage are allied/friendly thats 178% canrage... and fightin BoW,Music,Zeon.
Nemesis allies MAD 221$ carnage... fights LGC,DB 69% carnage... (ok so they were some 10% stronger a week ago..)

3. BoW n Music should declare war on zeon just for the humiliance they're getting....

4. get back on topic and kill zeon!
gah...


18:34:40 Sep 24th 07 - Demonic Shezmu:

well one thing is for certain...IF next era turns ONCE AGAIN...into a massive NAP/MAP/Whorefest...I wont even hesitate and bin all the VU-links I have...to be never heard again after the next era...tbh...the game was fun untill the 30+ KD's sprouted...then a few era's of "massive KD-alliances"...and the past few era's was nothing more then a "I'm the biggest farmer around-so I win" contest...

real fun in this game has been absent for a few era's now...and somehow I'm doubting it's return...so...next era might even be my last if the "fun-factor" isn't to be found back into the game...

The Carrothian Horde salutes you all...


21:05:32 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Boyhill II:

Mr. Messiah

Actually, that is a policy towards Nemesis. And it is a policy that was pushed by people from both Music, BoW and Zeon but not by me. I dont understand why you are singeling out Zeon, Carnage NAPed both Nemesis, MAD, LGC, DB, PKS and FF but somehow they are way cool and got balls etc etc.
Ohh, and I call you a retard becouse your logic is flawed and your understanding of this game is limited. Yet you are trying to tell me off.
You got one thing correct tho. We are fundamentalists!

Either way, I don't care who or what made the policy, and yes, I am singling out your nation because of

1) Its relatively low popularity; sided by the fact that it is the producer of arma
2) Your kd's defection rate is higher than ANY OTHER in all of Fanta.

My point is that these super-state alliances are PUSSY *beep*, and Carnage really is the only country which seems to have any balls this era.  Yes, they are allied to those nations, but only because of the BoW ZEON, Music alliance.  I am sure, that giving your conduct, you would rather have them fight alone?

BoW, ZEON, and Music are VERY powerful nations.  PKS, FF, LGC, and DB are not even fifth rate powers! 

Obviously, it is your logic that is flawed, as your understanding of the game is limited, and you speak of religious fundementalism as if it were a good thing.

Prince Lewatha

Still think boyhill is an *beep* though

Ummmm, okay? The statement truly does match the wit of the speaker here ;)


21:12:35 Sep 24th 07 - Pirate Lewatha:

oh please..

it's OR pirate OR princess OR lady

or for all of you goodies out there, you can call me huney.


21:16:14 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Blue Dog Anchorite:

<Carnage really is the only country which seems to have any balls this era.>

 

Wait.....who told you we had the balls?? We dont know where they came from, seriously, we're just holding them for a friend....

 

In all seriousness, legacy and db and carnage would all be fighting one another still (with us probably being whipped:) if it wasnt for the fact that we all heard wind of this "anti-legacy/anti-db/anti-carnage" alliance which made us all realized that common enemies was more important then the land we were both sitting on^^ So we had to make friends with many of the little guys because at the time bow/music/zeon occupied 3 of the top 5 slots:P

 

But me personally, i am tired of this trend of "mega-alliances" in fant politics, was never like this in the good old days:( I believe someone previously was right when they pointed out that maps was a rare thing to be seen, nowadays they are as common as naerey sexually harrassing fafnir in the carnage breakroom:P


21:19:19 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Sun:

a bit outside the dicussion here, but

"BoW, ZEON, and Music are VERY powerful nations.  PKS, FF, LGC, and DB are not even fifth rate powers! "

wanna add up total military raw power in each KD and then compare? i hardly doubt it will be the same as kd %P


22:12:01 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

Yeah, P% doesnt say much. If all else on the map dissapeared and it was only Zeon and LGC. Eventhough they are a third of our P% I think they would win.

When it comes to "mega-alliances", we wherent that powerfull to begin with. We became powerfull becouse we did ally and work together. And there where never any plans from our side to be anti-lgc/db/carnage. Our plan was simple: Cut off 1/4 of the map, then do some farming and or take on closeby kingdoms, then take on whoever comes out victorious from the Nem&CO vs LGC&CO war.


22:19:44 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Scientist:

Hey FF is powerful!!!
I will have you know we are owners of Fantasias fastest cookie oven......
Now thats power for ya :P


22:27:46 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Boyhill II:

Mr. Messiah

Yeah, P% doesnt say much. If all else on the map dissapeared and it was only Zeon and LGC. Eventhough they are a third of our P% I think they would win.

When it comes to "mega-alliances", we wherent that powerfull to begin with. We became powerfull becouse we did ally and work together. And there where never any plans from our side to be anti-lgc/db/carnage. Our plan was simple: Cut off 1/4 of the map, then do some farming and or take on closeby kingdoms, then take on whoever comes out victorious from the Nem&CO vs LGC&CO war.

aYeah, my point of "pussydom" exactly proven.  Nem&CO vs LGC&CO war is NEVER GOING TO END! 

Face it.  ZEON, BoW, Nemisis, and Music are all crap/farmer kds. Zeon has had countless numbers of revolts, Nemisis wouln't hurt a fly, and now, the world will watch as Zeon's pussy leaders cast Arma.

All we should do is hope, hope from here to hell and back that these mega alliances go away next era.


22:42:44 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Fizban:

Actually, the Lgc war's probably decided. Why? Because people had the mentality of Messiah. Wait, build-up strength (very kind way of saying 'farming') by making NaPs with surrounding kds and then when the victor from the other war is exhausted (unless it was another kd using the same farming policy while their target kd's been warring), swoop in using larger econ and beat the crap out of said target kd.

Will the strat work? Why, yes. Just look at the way this era's come out and if people want to use this 'strat' and be bored for half an era, then more power to 'em. I just hate seeing a 'stagnant' VU.


22:44:05 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Onuris:

Sir Boyhill II

Considered the fact that they are weak because nemsis and mad are killing them?

-Rob


22:52:49 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

Never said we would stagnate. Just that there are different phases. First clear out core and establish blockers, then concentrate on ec(doesnt mean you dont do warfare, just that you spend a large portion for building, esp the dwarfs). And actually, neither BoW or Music started close to us. We didnt want it to end up like last era with no space to expand on so we killed all the kds that did start closeby.

Look at LGC last era. You explored like hell up north for #time. Then you came back to claim revenge. Etc.

And a last note about LGC-NEM war.. We thought it would in fact end much earlier and that we, Music, BoW and Zeon would be facing Carnage, Nemesis and MAD fully pumped after taking the rest of the map. I dont see it as pussyness to make sure you have some troops in your blocker with that in mind.


23:09:57 Sep 24th 07 - Sir Fizban:

Yeah, let's look at last era, what happened before we had a chance to rebuild? We had to war straight oop, didn't get to farm straight oop. Ah well, next argument Messiah, before I give you your daily whipping. ;-)


23:14:13 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Messiah:

We didnt farm oop either. So drop it. Nor did we this era. FIRST clean out and secure core. Happens every era and is vital for the era to be successfull.


23:38:51 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Smuff:

rolles eyes'

*beep* more than three MAP'd kingdoms. never again.

we should all gang beat anyone who does it again :P


23:54:46 Sep 24th 07 - Mr. Soccermage:

smuff, smartest thing u ever said. agreed.


00:09:07 Sep 25th 07 - Mr. Asystole:

Speaking for Nemesis, we didn't form our alliance with MAD until after we realized DB+LGC were allying against us. We had not NAPed or MAPed any KDs until that point. I don't really see a "mega" alliance this era. Anyone know what alliance this refers to?


00:11:04 Sep 25th 07 - Mr. Onuris:

It refers to the alliance between Lgc and DB that exists every era.

-Rob


00:17:11 Sep 25th 07 - Mr. Rock Hard Reginald:

The reason "they're weak" isn’t simple as that, Onuris, and doesn't compliment  the situation well enough. As is the fashion in DB and LGC, warring is revered above anything else. And despite being offered NAPs from several of the kingdoms we were fighting before the era began, we planned to war as much as possible, a style of gameplay we like to encourage in the game (which sadly seems to be disappearing amongst others)

Coming out of protection, we immediately took on Carnage, PKS and MAD. With hindsight, it wasn't going to help us in the long run, but it was fun, and we play for fun. Carnage especially put up a good fight, and MAD was able to get 3k+ naz from one player alone barely a few days OOP (feeding? No idea) with a good economy to match it. But it delayed all our kingdoms growths considerably, while seemingly, everybody else was exploring to their hearts content.

Mind you, we did know of this "deal" with the northern kds that they had made amongst each other, to make a mass-MAP, then NAP any others who weren’t included until the "LGC/DB" threat was gone. Not exactly enticing, but what does it matter to us. We weren't the ones who were bored stiff building mines.

Eventually, having already explored for a good few weeks to the point that they were 300% of our total power, NMS joined in the fray, and it looks like now by the scores they've won the round, having explored and not taken any other kingdoms economies as of yet. A decent diplomatic/economic victory, for sure. Run 95% of the kd as dwarves, NAP all nearest threats (the northern KDs), watch and explore while the southern threats fight each other (even had NMS players come on IRC and ask us how much room was needed for them to build extra 90k mines, lol), and plant multies in allied kingdoms (although it looks like they got deleted a tad later), and then a week or two in, attack the weakened DB/LGC who had already slogged it out with 3 other kingdoms.

This isn't meant as a flame, but as I said, give credit where its due in the assessment of the situation, Onuris. I think the alliances we saw this era is entirely an overkill, and isn't merited. They were not weak  because “MAD and NMS were fighting them”. When one kingdom is allowed to explore as the others fight amongst themselves, and then when that kingdom goes to finish off the smaller kds while the larger ones refuse to do anything, this is the kind of outcome you're going to see. The weakness came much earlier, at the expense of others refusing to fight each other.


As for Augh, curb your lip before you wind up any more people. I don't think you're doing your KD any favours atm. LGC didn't explore in the top corner last round after we were attacked by Aby/Zeon/PHI and MAD and forced to relocate. MAD, a contingent from Hamish, and another KD (its name escapes me, the big one..with Goldmeister) had set up a MASSIVE economy there, not anticipating our arrival with armies, which we took promptly took over and then secured with blockers. After taking it over, we marched south and caused a riot as you know. So please, don't lie and say we whored. We aren't that kind of KD.

As for Asy: Don't be so presumptious to think you're important enough to warrant an alliance. DB and LGC ally regardless of the other kingdoms. And I know there is a lot of talk floating around between eras about who is doing what, and what is doing who, but unless it comes from the mouth of LGC's leadership, it's probably bull. No, LGC didn't plan an alliance against NMS. Frankly, we didn't care about you.

And back to Onuris again: I'm having a hard time understanding how LGC and DB's relationship could be equated to that of a "mega alliance". Alliances are big affairs. Like Zeon/Music/BoW and their combined 77 members. Two kingdoms with a combined 37 members is not remotely comparable.


As for next round, all I can say is I hope for VU’s sake we see something more enjoyable. The little fighting, and the amount of NAP’s is detracting from the overall enjoyment.


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