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uhm he did not leave a KD at war.
unless PHI was at war with PHI

Ptah left Phi and is now attacking Phi cities. So we are aggressively defending ourselves from Ptah. (my non-vice opinion)

Ptah is clearly a traitor and cannot be trusted by anyone at any time.

the truth is that he attacked and burn one of my colonies after leaving phi and before joining carnage, so the nap terms are in place, as soon as he attacked us he became at war with us!

Wow, attacks from within? Go Ptah. ;-)

*Hands Ptah the 'Benedict Arnold Award'*

this is exactly like the fake Condinho incident. Ptah is a traitor and continues to burn cities after he joins Carnage.

proof? easy. he has been in Carnage for at least 4 hours and this is all within the last 2 hours

• 16:01:05: Land Raider lead by Mr. Ptah burned and destroyed Hand of God. We lost 0 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Axemen, 2500 Runemasters and 71000 Cavemasters in the battle.
• 16:01:05: Our Die Ptah Die failed to defend Hand of God. Land Raider lead by Mr. Ptah burned and destroyed Hand of God. We lost 1 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Axemen, 0 Runemasters and 0 Cavemasters in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.
• 16:01:05: All troops in Die Ptah Die have died!
• 16:05:27: The progress of Freeze This has been hindered by magic!
• 16:05:37: The progress of Freeze This has been hindered by magic!
• 17:18:20: Que V lost a battle against Land Raider from Mr. Ptah. We lost 1 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Axemen, 0 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.
• 17:18:20: All troops in Que V have died!
• 17:18:32: Que IV lost a battle against Land Raider from Mr. Ptah. We lost 1 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Axemen, 0 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters and 19602 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.
• 17:18:32: All troops in Que IV have died!

This is good, I have asked my men not to start anything in the forums while we talk things over, thought phi would have done the same...

If Ptah continues to attack Phi, we will kick him, he has been warned.

@Legend: I wouldnt go about questioning our honor, Ptah has told us and shown us some very interesting things about what phi has been planning on doing...

As I said, he has been warned, if he continues we will kick, end of story.

And as I also said, any cities taken by him belongs back to phi.

As far Phi not planning anything? Do you want to stick to that story? Because I can starts copy/pasting stuff:)

ms. dung beetle if you think that posting private matters from a kingdom in the public forums is right(when you got then from a traitor) go ahead, we have nothing to hide, probably it's jsut some stupid stuff zero said, lol!

Now Jinc since when does Zero say anything stupid LoL  Which proves a point that everyone knows Zero can go crazy sometimes so why do people not just ignore Zero and his confusion with the English Language.  :-)

If plans aren't changed, we need nothing to post from your forums. Within 24 hours everyone will know it anyway.

he burned them, not taken then...

OK here's the story behind the story. Phi believed Carnage broke a NAP I didn't see it. Zerocool became the mouthiest little punk I have ever seen I couldn't stand the backstabbing tactics or *beep*ic rants. I there for dropped out. War insued. I've lost cities they've lost cities. I apply to Carnage, they accept me. I am then again attacked, well plundered. So the war is back on. I keep getting message after message from members of a lot of kingdoms and well even a kick back or two. Thanks for the sponsor turns whoever that was.

You know? Well, I don't. I want to see it first, before I believe.

"Carnage guys, restrain yourselves please."

But, but, cmon!!! =(

@Archi: You know that every time i see your name or faf's name in these forums i get that sick feeling in my stomach:P

Ok, I apologize then. I thought you were saying that we have no proof the Ptah has broken the NAP, which is obviously untrue.

Like I said no one lets not get into any kind of name calling.  When this Era is over with everyone remembers and moves on to do their own thing and make their own choices.  It will become evident as to the intentions of everyone when the dust settles.  Everyone's button is being pushed right now and its kinda like the Cold War in which both sides not what each has and the wrong statement or wrong jester can cause a War that shouldn't have happened because of something stupid.  I mean come on at least if we are going to war let me kidnap (actually she would go willing) Ms. Dung Bettle or Lady Software Bug and bring them to my palace and have a Trojan war simulation :-)

Crap sorry I don't swing that way I misread as I need to get sleep sometime soon LoL But I will let Zero kidnap you if you wish LoL

Crazy I can barely handle one of you so please Lord oh please hear my prayers and not let Crazy XU reproduce.  

Do you really wish to push the matter mate? Its comments like these that only worsen the situation.

There is no use in arguing here, we feel we have done nothing to break the nap, and phi feels the same way about themselves. Of course, we may see in 20 tics or so if we interpret what we have heard right....

I thought the matter could be handled rationally.....

Mr. Diomedes Report 11/28/2007 3:14:07 PM

Ms. Dung Bettle I truthfully believe what has happened between Carnage and Phi is that we saw where both were ranked and then somebody immature says something to make the other mad and then all of a sudden both sides se armies moving towards blockers.  OMG This must mean War is immenent.  LoL  Yes this can mean that or it is just a precautionary matter.  My confusiong is seeing 100-200K Freedom Fighter Armies coming down through Carnage area and headed towards Carnage blockers that are right next to Phi.  Phi is at war with FF so what are we suppose to think.  This should have been handled differently by both sides.  Most times if a NAP is going to be broken a 72 hour CF before war is given.  This allows for a fair fight for both sides.  But this appears "from personal opinon" that a CF would not even be conducted.  All in all this is a cluster that hopefully can be straightened out.

Our armies (FF) coming through Carnage blockers has nothing to do with an NAP with PHI. they never broke it with regard to FF's armies.

Ms. Dung Beetle Report 11/28/2007 3:53:41 PM

@Archi: You know that every time i see your name or faf's name in these forums i get that sick feeling in my stomach:P

good lord, u forgot naerey. im surprised ur not the most worried about him............

Mr. Diomedes Report 11/28/2007 4:05:21 PM

Like I said no one lets not get into any kind of name calling.  When this Era is over with everyone remembers and moves on to do their own thing and make their own choices.  It will become evident as to the intentions of everyone when the dust settles.  Everyone's button is being pushed right now and its kinda like the Cold War in which both sides not what each has and the wrong statement or wrong jester can cause a War that shouldn't have happened because of something stupid.  I mean come on at least if we are going to war let me kidnap (actually she would go willing) Ms. Dung Bettle or Lady Software Bug and bring them to my palace and have a Trojan war simulation :-)

at first glance, i was REALLY excited to read ur post, thinking it mentioned Jester. alas, it was just the wrong spelling. here u go, mate! :)  gesture!

OK here's the story behind the story. Phi believed Carnage broke a NAP I didn't see it.

So you didn't "see it" or obviously have any idea what was happening, and used that basis to betray your Kingdom? Good luck with this guy, Carnage.

Zerocool became the mouthiest little punk I have ever seen I couldn't stand the backstabbing tactics or *beep*ic rants.

What backstabbing tactics? What did Phi do to backstab anyone? Please explain in further detail.

I there for dropped out. War insued. I've lost cities they've lost cities.

Let me fix that for you, I think this is what you meant. "I quit the Kingdom. Then, I moved my armies out and started razing every Phi city I could. Eventually someone noticed and for some reason, now *I* am being attacked? WTF NUBS!!"

I apply to Carnage, they accept me. I am then again attacked, well plundered. So the war is back on.

Also translated for everyone: "I apply to Carnage because of the NAP, I expect that Phi will stop attacking me. If they don't, maybe I can spark a war between Phi and Carnage. Hmm. For some reason, I am still being attacked even though I joined Carnage. Phi must have broken the NAP!"

Please. Ptah is a traitor and any words that come out of his mouth should be treated as such. Other players have quit Kingdoms in the past and joined NAP'd kingdoms withou problems. However, they weren't *beep*s who razed their Kingdom's cities at the same time.

Yes I am pissed but this has to deal with a single player and has nothing to do with Carnage.  I have told everyone that Ptah is the only one attacking and thus he is the only one we are responding to. I am not a vice so I can't speak to relations but when someone attacks, we have to respond.

ms. dung beetle report 11/28/2007 6:07:03 pm

as i said, he has been warned, if he continues we will kick, end of story. and as i also said, any cities taken by him belongs back to phi. as far phi not planning anything? do you want to stick to that story? because i can starts copy/pasting stuff:)

do you belive everything , what can we do against carnage , makin a rebel in carnage , if we were planing we were planing to stop legacy .

we were shoked by what the agreement btw carnage lgc , that lgc attacks out blokers so carnage can enter starting slughtring mad and bow .

idk , but i 'v never seen a kd accept a player 9 days b4 the era ends .

wtf ?????????????????????????????????????????????

Seriously Phi, can you not get a handle on your people? Notice most of Carnage has refrained from posting in here, letting me do all the talking.

About that one blocker, will have to find it myself. If it is open into your area then he is in violation and i will handle it. (Now do you see why we arent doing any naps next era?)

Might I draw your attention to the "Fake Condinho" incident. He was foolishly let into Music, them thinking him to be a refugee or something. The moment the implications became clear, Sp00n kicked him. He then applied to Red Hand and Admiral Krum, being pretty much inactive and not knowing what was going on around him, let him in. Again, the moment they woke up to what was going on, they kicked him. And last era in BoW when Relictor began attacking our ally ZEON, I kicked him immediately myself as soon as I heard of it (and even resigned from BoW over that incident).

Now the reason that backstabbing cannot be tolerated is that it is highly destructive of the game itself, and kd's that tolerate it would be doing damage to VU as an experience.

Saying that Ptah has been "warned" is not really enough but in any case as I write this, he has just burned a 90k city belonging to Lenard. So the outcome is obvious. To defend its honor, Carnage needs to kick Ptah from the kd.