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Fantasia wars (era 35)
20:38:24 Oct 9th 08 - Mr. Silver Surfer:

Pirate Lewatha

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10/9/2008 12:46:11 PM

In my eyes :

LGC>Superheroes>Fate>WoL>PKS

this era ^^

(not putting RET in here for obvious reasons)

anyone feel like posting theirs? (obvious flamebait, please do not explode...)

 

Thanks lew, I like your graph, its pretty, "real"

But, if circumstances were better and we didn't have RET attack us early on, we'd have beaten LGC... (ultimately, that might not have been in our benefit as we'd have to fight both Fate and PKS with no aid, and probably even fight you guys as well...)

That was a strategical error on our part to fight LGC, and have RET on ourbackside, wanting revenge so badly... early on.

I "kinda" expected it coming, when we saw RET cities to the south, and nothing else, but.... we were already too prepared and engaged vs. LGC, and we were winning, until you showed up... :-(

alas, I'd rank it like this:

LGC>S=RET>FATE>PKS>WoL>DB

I state that S=Ret as you did beat us.  I feel confident that in a 1 on 1, Superheroes are stronger than Retribution, but I cannot proove such claim, ever... we left you to the wolves when we retreated, and didn't bother to engage until we KNEW you wouldn't live through them, and that made the perfect distraction to them, killing RET.... (sweet revenge I suppose)

I hate ranking LGC that high, as they are fighting only a crippled Fate right now. 

I don't give WoL much credit, they survived yes, but they played on the defensive all game, they never made any headway, pushed an attack, or gained power.  There's even a few of them in our core, only farming. *shrug*

but, we're good to our word, our NAP's will hold, WoL and LGC will not be aggressed, and I am doubtful that we will surpass LGC on points as they are no longer engaging PKS.

all in all, there wasn't kingdom hopping, there wasn't any "real backstabbing," (most of my allies will argue that RET stabbed us in the back, but I do not.  That was a tactical move by RET and it worked well, its just too bad that Ret exhausted too many resources on us, or they may have stood a better chance vs Fate and PKS) or too much flame-baiting etc.  and I never saw a single "cheater" (as a player getting deleted)...

Its been a fun era.  Lets go out with a bang... I'm going to puch S as hard as we can, maybe we can rip down PKS and FATE in the end, and claim #1 side-by-side with LGC.

 

Respectfully,

-Silver Surfer


20:53:40 Oct 9th 08 - Sir Inactive Killer:

must... not... dignify... that... retards... post... with... a... response...


20:56:17 Oct 9th 08 - Mr. Spiderman:

I hate to put a label to any kingdom.... any kingdom can win the era given the right team, the right strategy and the right circumstances *shrug*


20:58:47 Oct 9th 08 - WolfLord Durza Zoidberg II:

Silver surfer, i find this part

"we're good to our word, our NAP's will hold"

 

Helarious!

God, you lot nearly broke the NAP as soon as you saw us losing, and trust me i know it had nothing to do with us being in your "core"...


21:06:59 Oct 9th 08 - Mr. Spiderman:

Nope Durza.

It had everything to do with 80K troops (2 weeks ago) being right in our core and not moving out at all even when you guys are in a life and death war.

Our kingdom had plenty of arguments over this: on one hand, we want to honour our NAPs the whole way. On the other hand, your player (LT) was pumping troops while going nowhere (and this player has a reputation for backstabbing) and that was making plenty of us very nervous as well.

Add to the fact that after one of your players (WK) respawned and started rebuilding in our core, he and our leader got into a heated argument with each other. That's how the NAP almost got 'broken' anyway.

Guess what... till today, the first player of yours (LT) is still in our core, still pumping troops and still not marching them out despite Criss agreeing to our proposal that he march them out 2 weeks ago.

Those are the facts from our side. Feel free to present your own version.

P.S. I do not know what kind of players you bring into your kingdom.... nor do I care.... but do not let him become a threat to us or to yourselves.


21:14:16 Oct 9th 08 - Mr. Darth Bane:

"am doubtful that we will surpass LGC on points as they are no longer engaging PKS" LOL tell me surfer and any LGC member could back me up WHEN HAS PKS EVER FOUGHT LGC THIS ERA???????? you need to get your stuff straight.


22:08:18 Oct 9th 08 - Mr. Mazvis:

'S=RET'
LoL, RET did not survive this era and you are putting then in 2nd-3d place? That's a retarded way of thinking, if you ask me...
'
we left you to the wolves when we retreated, and didn't bother to engage until we KNEW you wouldn't live through them, and that made the perfect distraction to them, killing RET.... (sweet revenge I suppose)'
If by wolves you mean WoL, you are rather mistaken. We didn't fight RET this era (maybe a few battles, but no real war)

This era LGC did well, because they overpowered superheroes with the help of RET (what allowed them to both farm and take over cities at the same time). Whereas WoL was fighting DB. And it was a close fight, at one time I even thought we could lose. All we got from DB where wreckages though. That way we got outfarmed by LGC. We also overestimated Superheroes to hold a little longer. When half of our kingdom was still finishing DB in the north ( and got robbed by PKS, who came last and took most of the unprotected towns (no grudge though)), LGC had already finished fighting Superheroes and started coming at us. In fact, their coming was so fast that they even got some of our newly made armories (lol).
I don't know who are the best this era, but yeah, everyone got their time of glory :)
And it's still not finished yet.


22:15:49 Oct 9th 08 - Mr. Doctor Strange:

 well said spidey...


. We also overestimated Superheroes to hold a little longer.

 hehe, as said before, we retreated a bit early, but I think we held out well, even RET admitted we did, if I remember right.


22:19:24 Oct 9th 08 - Mr. Wicked Witch of The West:

For god sakes stop killing my Troops when I'm not even on!!


22:23:17 Oct 9th 08 - Mr. Killstone:

oh my *beep*ing god can it be true?! yes the old flames and hypocrisy is back for now!

haha pks i laugh at your face! "zomg we pwn ret they are nubs who whine when they lose! nublets come wash my feet!!"

*superhero*beep*s PKS*

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10/9/2008 1:04:56 PM
winning bye cheating is nothing to brag about.

zomg cheaters cheaters!!! how could you ever beat us? zomg we are the best we cant lose omg howd you *beep*ing do that?!

*ends flame*

EDIT: PS someone buy my slaves after Kens i wanna get back in this damn thing!


00:05:20 Oct 10th 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

i would put Ret up thier yes mazvis. if you think getting lucky (we lost on 97%) and fighting 2 on 1 against over double our numbers means we suck well what kd are you from again??

anyway Ret couldnt really backstab super as thier was nothing to backstab :) thier has been multiple backstabs this era however. Rump mafia x2 slade to name a few


00:50:52 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Khalifa The Orc:

I don't give WoL much credit, they survived yes, but they played on the defensive all game, they never made any headway, pushed an attack, or gained power.  There's even a few of them in our core, only farming. *shrug*

 

sorry but they did kill DB...


01:34:38 Oct 10th 08 - General Ezatious:

They single handedly killed DB? :o really? Not what i saw hehe


11:00:57 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Mazvis:

". if you think getting lucky (we lost on 97%) and fighting 2 on 1 against over double our numbers means we suck well what kd are you from again??"
First of all, I did not say that you suck. You might be great players, but you lost this era. There are really 3 types of kingdoms in Fantasia- ones that win, ones that survive and ones that got wiped out. Sadly, RET belongs to the latter.
It doesn't matter if you win by luck, or by hard work, you still win (same goes for losing). If you were getting owned 2x1, means you failed at diplomacy. If you blame backstabbers- you failed at recruitment. VU is not all war you know...

To answer your question, I am from WoL. And looking at our member acitivity this era, I think we did pretty well, we were constantly fighting  from the start of the Era and are still fighting atm.


11:25:44 Oct 10th 08 - Prince Mielo:

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10/10/2008 12:50:52 AM

I don't give WoL much credit, they survived yes, but they played on the defensive all game, they never made any headway, pushed an attack, or gained power.  There's even a few of them in our core, only farming. *shrug*

 

sorry but they did kill DB...

>Funny :)


11:30:05 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Crissxcross:

As stated before, DB got killed by 3 and a half  ^^ kingdoms. But main reason they got beaten was, that they underhestimated their openents and splitted forces just before OOP. That way they were vulnurable and Wol beat  about 70% of them.

And if you don't believe it Ezi, ask your kingdom buddies who joined you, after DB disbanded, ask them who took their first core.

I could write a lot more, but I just have no more time to waste here ^^




11:37:11 Oct 10th 08 - Prince Mielo:

As stated before, DB got killed by 3 and a half  ^^ kingdoms. But main reason they got beaten was, that they underhestimated their openents and splitted forces just before OOP. That way they were vulnurable and Wol beat  about 70% of them.

> It didn't happen like that, since you haven't been a member of DB, you shouldn't state how it happened in your opinion :). Miscommunication and inactivity killed us, thankyouverymuch


12:56:16 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Batman:

A quick reply (regarding our supposed backstab to WOL):

A NAP that states its era long, is era long.

A NAP that states it CAN be broken, MIGHT GET BROKEN!

Nothing wrong with that. Make an era-long NAP next time if you dont want it getting broken!


12:59:41 Oct 10th 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

"It doesn't matter if you win by luck, or by hard work, you still win (same goes for losing). If you were getting owned 2x1, means you failed at diplomacy. If you blame backstabbers- you failed at recruitment. VU is not all war you know..."

 

so we should all play like cowards and mass recruit nubs and mass nap everyone? go team!


14:06:33 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Captain America:

I'm with Osi on this one, its better to loose valiantly than to win cowardly. Fact is that Ret would beat WoL, Pks and perhaps even Fate 1on1 any day of the week. And with luck on their side they could take down LGC or S as well.


15:18:20 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Spiderman:

I think it is better to concentrate on real life than lose sleep on a game :P

(I know, I know.... I am so going to get slapped by some of my kingdomates :P)


15:22:36 Oct 10th 08 - Sir Thomas The Anomas:

hehe


15:45:25 Oct 10th 08 - Sir Lelouch VI Brittania:

Let's see if I can remember the map correctly.

Don't get me wrong, the Heroes put up a good fight, but neither side was 'winning' before Ret broke through. You all weren't getting into our territory (except for a lone BT fueled army on the far left flank) and, we didn't make lasting headway into yours.

Now, we had a few members running mage and they were getting started when Ret made their move, so I doubt that Heroes would've done much at that time, as they only had 1 mage and little magic prot.

Heroes made good headway into Fant, and I like to see new blood come in, but I don't think you all are on Lgc's level just yet.


16:02:33 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Toxic Avenger:

lol lelouch you are aware we had a acouple of 95%+ losses vs you and even one at 100% where a whole merge died, its all part of history but it could have been the other way around ;)


17:19:52 Oct 10th 08 - Duke Vytautas Didysis:

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10/10/2008 3:06:33 PMI'm with Osi on this one, its better to loose valiantly than to win cowardly. Fact is that Ret would beat WoL, Pks and perhaps even Fate 1on1 any day of the week. And with luck on their side they could take down LGC or S as well.


PROVE what Ret can beat WoL :P IF you can`t prove so don`t say what is fact, here is just what u think not fact.....


17:21:00 Oct 10th 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

Well how about we just compare members? im 100% sure ret could beat WoL


17:30:28 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Doctor Strange:

 you know what would make this era interesting? if fate turned on pks right now and quit letting them tag along. :)   go for it fate !


 everyone knows the only reason pks is winning is 35 members farming, and tagging along with fate. :)


17:32:41 Oct 10th 08 - Duke Vytautas Didysis:

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10/10/2008 6:21:00 PM

Well how about we just compare members? im 100% sure ret could beat WoL



How you can compare members? ;P


18:46:21 Oct 10th 08 - Pirate Lewatha:

Well we certainly beat WoL when it comes down to spelling words/grammar... O.o


18:56:35 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Penguin:

lol, "How you can compare members? ;P " by names just :)u have couple good players and all ret is fulled with exp players :)


18:59:30 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Little Halfling Farmer:

yes and it was inactivity, stupidity and bad luck that got Ret killed.


19:12:11 Oct 10th 08 - Duke Vytautas Didysis:

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10/10/2008 7:56:35 PMlol, "How you can compare members? ;P " by names just :)u have couple good players and all ret is fulled with exp players :)

;D oh yes in RET all player from first era, so ? Many players from my kingdom play more then 2 years. Ofc we have some new but just few.


And ofc we have some players who play more then 5 years. Like Drakos, Criss and some more.


But i don`t want speak about that more so ok RET can beat WoL  , now you happy? :P If for child need sweet , so need give to him that :P


Same problem with inactivity in our kingdom. A lot players have job and studing so we can`t be active like LGC ;)


But I can say  thx LGC for good and nice fight.

and I want say what is Last era for Wol kingdom.


19:14:19 Oct 10th 08 - Duke Vytautas Didysis:

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10/10/2008 7:46:21 PMWell we certainly beat WoL when it comes down to spelling words/grammar... O.o

you can say what you beat me with spelling words and grammar ;)I never learn english in school so don`t expect something more ;)


21:25:38 Oct 10th 08 - Sir Zek:



#1 LGC , i don't have to Explain it , you guys are dedicated longtime players , if thease guys set there sites on you you better get your sh@t together pump 200% @#$&*%! HACK do anything you can AHHH!
#2 DB , OMG !? but they died ! why #2 . Well lets see PKS WoL and Fate had to fight there asses off to take them out , and they managed to Start a New Core and if not backed into a corner i think could have Done "better" . Bad position on the map and surrounded by enemies .
#3 PKS , why ? because look at there alliances , they may not have the Most Exspeianced players all around , But the leadership works Hard  at picking up the slack , Politics are as much a part of the game as pumping troops and building mines . in this aspect (politics) PKS > all else .
#4 WoL I give number four to WoL simple because they are well rounded Kingdom with good players and great players , Battle tested and deceptivly strong .
#5 Fate , RET , S , You are new Kingdoms , maybe not new players but maybe some of you have people that are new to the position(s) of leadership .
                   Fate - you guys show great potential but you had a very Nice starting location compared to ALL of the other Large Kingdoms . Lets see how you do next era .
                   RET - Not to tough a starting area but Battles raged Close by .You guys are Great seasoned players , some of you can be down right scarey good players , You guys played smart with politics , kept troops orginized but in the end The Enemies out numbered your Allies . this will be a kingdom worry about if you have the misfortune to go agaist 1on1 .
                    S - you guys are just Nutz , i have to admit i have very much enjoyed watching this Kingdom , Sory Shyers for kill yah , as a Ling ling next era go after dwarf , human and trolls not teh orc's you will live longer .  You guys realy do pull off some Superhero like sh@t , but that also might have been you overall downfall "ego" Just because you are in the justic leage dose not make you imortal , sometimes it not a good idea to rush in and save the day . but i think by your current actions you have lerned your lessons and i look forward to seeing what you do next era .
        Sidenote - I wish you guys would change to the Superman Logo !
#6  Dacii - .......no comment , but LOL .    


        No hate to anyone in this game , good show by all . Looking forward to another era . May i die in glorious Battle .

  ( i rated new kingdom maybe lower than they deserve being that they are new as kingdoms to Fantasia )



21:37:47 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Silver Surfer:

*cough* last? *cough*

you must be stoned.


21:43:14 Oct 10th 08 - Sir Zek:


Not last , read a little bit more .


21:47:08 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Penguin:

lol zek me and air can beat ya kd OOp again lol :D


21:50:32 Oct 10th 08 - Sir Zek:

#5 Fate ret S . i don't know how to gauge Fates true power honestly have
to see them maybe a couple era more , You guys and RET are tough
kingdoms , no question about it . But it is the first run on Fant , AS
a Kingdom . a Rhino might be a powerfull creature but surrounded by jackals with no one to back him up is Dinner . (iv seen it discovery
channel) and yes i just might be "high" .


21:51:34 Oct 10th 08 - Sir Zek:

  Penguin = water ?


21:52:53 Oct 10th 08 - Sir Zek:

 Eh , Dacii could prolly beat a kingdom "I" run LOL


21:54:11 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Spetznaz:

Lol, the *beep*s in here is incredible

Zek - Have you been playing this era?

Honestly..
I played in Ret this era, under a different name ofc ;D

But I have to say, we werent the best
But as a group of players that are mostly newly slapped together in a way
I'd say we played dam well
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My Views

  1. S
  2. Ret/Lgc
  3. Fate
  4. DB
  5. PKS
  6. Wol
  7. Dacii
  8. Boo
Why?

S- Great era, came back from being squashed by Ret and LGC to become a good team player group, Im sure next era, they will be better

Ret - Great Era, In the end though we were streched
Funniest moment for me was Us 6 holding back PKS's 20+ Players, if you could call them that

Lgc - Decent Era Imho, nothing Spectacular, maybe we just expect too much from them?
I hope they take down Fate ;D

Fate - Decent Era for 'Carnage V2', smoothly done and an easy era imho
Being able to farm for the first half ;D

DB - Who can forget these guys? Unlucky to say the least getting attacked by the Nap Alliance =/

PKS - NaPed/Maped everyone but Ret? Lol.. 'nough said

WoL - Nothing against you guys, I just feel you didn't perform that great =/
OOP though got you a few brownie points especially CrissxCross

Dacii - Always a joy too see such a small kingdom, have the balls to go to Fant unlike kingdoms that just bash nubs on lower worlds

Boo - Ftw

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In the end, I feel if We { Ret} had put up better blockers in our South East, we could of held back Fate for more time
Good luck to the guys on Fant right now

Spetz ->


22:03:29 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Penguin:

pks didnt nap us :( and we are more fighting fate i can say then lgc :((( we are getting the strongest armies :((((


22:12:01 Oct 10th 08 - Sir Zek:

 i can only comment on how i saw/seen thing's most certain everyone has a different perspective . If i was to post how i think kingdoms would rate one on one my list would be quite different . But i consider "alliances/NAP" & other politics a part of how i listed kingdoms .  I also bumped by Default of single era on fant ,Fate ,  RET and Superhero's . I Know allot of you people from both Kingdoms are fierce players, i mean no disrespect . You Guys will do great things in the future so stick together .



         Sorry To here WoL Disbanding  ,  Good luck to were ever you guys land . .


22:14:34 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Spetznaz:

I tried to edit..

Anyways... Ret & S were the only ones not to be affected by the mass Nap of PKS


22:28:22 Oct 10th 08 - Praetorian Wyzer:

Mr. Penguin
pks didnt nap us :( and we are more fighting fate i can say then lgc :((( we are getting the strongest armies :((((

Penguin, lol, we have had a share of "strongest" armies.  We had to deal with a Fate 13K nazzie army when WoL had their second surge against us, and it walked right into our arms area and took them.  But we barbequed the turkeys and had a fun picnic.

We also had a very large Zerk army, not once but 3 times, the first time it came calling with the above nazzie army, and we sent the zerks home crying to their fugly mommies.

We also destroyed all the armies/merges they sent at us from the north.  Most of these armies were HoH, but we all know that does not mean crap.

Maybe, Fate is just tired of fighting us, and moved south to you?


22:53:47 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Khalifa The Orc:

#2 DB , OMG !? but they died ! why #2 . Well lets see PKS WoL and Fate had to fight there asses off to take them out , and they managed to Start a New Core and if not backed into a corner i think could have Done "better" . Bad position on the map and surrounded by enemies .

pks and fate joined in the second core fight after DB lost there core to crisscross and some othere  wol players...

but i got to say binhh did give a nice worry to pks for awhile..


23:38:33 Oct 10th 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

5 years you say duke? are you sure they have been around that long? :)


23:44:58 Oct 10th 08 - Duke Vytautas Didysis:

Yes . If  for me is come soon 5 years so they real play 5 or more ;)


23:50:31 Oct 10th 08 - Mr. Josef Fritzl:

I think you mean 5 eras.


23:50:52 Oct 10th 08 - Duke Vytautas Didysis:

I start play this game from 16 ;)


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