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@Prised
seriously, I didnt wanna read all that long post, but I knew it had something with the "me not opening my blocker" and it was simple, I couldnt. You were pissed of att rebirth, you were prepping on our block, so If I opned it you would just ask Mayhem to send their merge trough (since I cant close with armies prepping on me) and I didnt saw why you needed trough here, since you allready had 3 other fronts to take Vap and Ben out on....

see? small post with easy to understand :D

O.o long post

Rebirth did want a NAP with Preds and Preds didn't want one. Hence Vapor's troop building.  And yes I was watching Vapor and Ben and others -- who were watching us -- and everyone of us was moving Pezzies around building troops ;)

Dark sought NAP with Preds the moment we arrived on Zeta and promptly broke the NAP - not sure that we ever received comp.

"Rebirth did want a NAP with Preds and Preds didn't want one. Hence Vapor's troop building. "

it was a bit back and forward i think, cause first Preds offered a NAP on Fant witch we refused. then we offered one when we got to Zeta, where Preds leaders didnt even bother responding. then they offered (or finally answared 2 weeks later or so) and i sendt a message back about negotiations. witch they yet again didnt respond to. and then Fate wiped them off the map:P

(i have no idea if any of this is interessting, but i cant stop writing xD overtired here:P)

and i salute you Moonshine, your endurancy are amazing^^

I doubt that Overcome, I am warring against you xP

Mr. Overcome Report 3/12/2009 2:13:03 PM

"Rebirth did want a NAP with Preds and Preds didn't want one. Hence Vapor's troop building. " it was a bit back and forward i think, cause first Preds offered a NAP on Fant witch we refused. then we offered one when we got to Zeta, where Preds leaders didnt even bother responding. then they offered (or finally answared 2 weeks later or so) and i sendt a message back about negotiations. witch they yet again didnt respond to. and then Fate wiped them off the map:P (i have no idea if any of this is interessting, but i cant stop writing xD overtired here:P) and i salute you Moonshine, your endurancy are amazing^^

You'd know more then I about the NAP offers then I would :)

Which map? Think some of those Pred cities on Fant just switched tags ;)

"then you suddently pop up outside our blocker and stands there for several ticks, when a Mayhem merge of over a million troops is 2 ticks away. then there is no way im going to risk that you jump KD's to let Mayhem use the prep time you had come up with so they could attack faster."

So you acted with absolutely zero evidence then. I'm fairly certain you're experienced enough to know how merges work and that had Mayhem merged into Prised army, it would have reset their prep time anyway.

You didn't ask for the army to be removed. You didn't even demand it be removed. You've admitted you saw it there for "several" ticks and you SAID NOTHING. You simply attacked and now you're trying to justify it. Sorry, but i aint buying it.

What i also find VERY amusing, is that fact that Rebirth having been crying about open blockers. Well, guess what, since our NAP has NO TERMS, we could open, close, raze or give away blockers at our discretion.. so none of that so called "dishonourable" blocker crap actually has any merit whatsoever.

Sir Prised Report 3/12/2009 4:32:35 PM

(ranking right up there with FF planning a nap breach as an excuse to war us).

Hey, you are grasping at straws and making up stuff again.  We didn't plan anything.  Make up more stuff and see if it makes you look any better.  So far you look worse with every post.  Stop lying through your teeth.

overcome told your leader at least 10 hours before i left
prepped for 4 hours on your blocker the benji moved a scout over and i merged into that 6 hours later benjis army gets to the merge still no troop movements from dark 5 hours later and after 2 failed attempts to take the blocker (99% and 98% yay i love this game) we take it and finaly see troops from prised who seemed to be one of three people moving somthing to stop us, unfortunately for him hes army was only 2000 nazzies and no mu so it didnt get anywhere 3 hours later we reach 2nd blocker with 20k troops inside of it prep 2 hours and take it

seems like enough time to at least tell your mage to expect us

Hey Prised, you are lying so badly now it is kind of hard to "trust" your words.  You have 0 proof of anything you have stated.  If our rep is so bad, how come Fant KDs still wanted to recruit all three of us? Obviously they could care less about what happened between our KDs or they don't believe a damned word you say.  When you run out of "proof" you just simply try to discredit people with assumptions, theories, and other bullsh-t.  I was "supposedly" busted by you, but since when did you become the police? Since when did your word mean anything to anyone outside of your KD? You are just making me laugh my ass off because I know that this is a game and you are raging.

Yes, but that's pure speculation. You can try and justify it all you like, fact is, you were wrong.

Ademo: What i also find VERY amusing, is that fact that Rebirth having been crying about open blockers. Well, guess what, since our NAP has NO TERMS, we could open, close, raze or give away blockers at our discretion.. so none of that so called "dishonourable" blocker crap actually has any merit whatsoever.

crying? i think you meant nagging right? cause i have not seen/heard anyone here at Rebirth cry over Dark.

and i sendt a nice message to Dark pretty early in the era, asking her if she could tell all Dark players to close the blockers for our enemys. she agreed and we did the same for her. how many times have you seen a Rebirth blocker open for enemys off Dark? then count the number of times Dark u seen the blockers of Dark open for enemys of Rebirth.

and for the record, who has called you dishonorable cause of blockers? cause i havent. all though i think we deserved better treatment at that time.

Prised:

LOL,
1-Rebirth, are you taking those cities back from grave to return them to Kevin? Im just curious because you have been spouting off about honour but thuis far I havent seen any from you. I will post an apology if those cities are returned to Kevin but to me it looks more like you are helping them by taking the cities so that we cant take them once we kill their lame armies.

No we aint going to return the cities, cause they were taken from another KD. we have nothing in our "NAP" that says we are to give former Dark cities back. we would deffently have done at a earlier stage, but the tension is to high between us and im pretty sure we would not have gotten them back from you if the tables was turned. also i must add that i have no idea why you guys delay on taking those cities right away.

therefor, no NAP break, no bad intentions from us, no dishonorable acts from us.

"2- we have no terms on our nap? who are you kidding? a Nap is a non aggression pact, allowing those 2 disp*beep*s to leave and giving us a rousing 2 hours warning is not very honourable and just because YOU had people drop tags to hit an ally doesnt mean that dark would condone doing the same. I expect Compensation and i expect it to be decent, but then given you are already trying to justify an obvious nap breach by making stuff up I guess all of VU is beginning to see that some people have no honour. We LET you build in a safe area and this is our thanks? as for protecting you you hid behind blockers filled with dark troops so yes you were protected."

why do you keep lying? there is no point at all discussing with you if you are ignoring the facts!

I COULD NOT STOP VAPOR OR BEN FROM LEAVING, AND I WARNED YOUR LEADER ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE OUTCOME OVER 48 HOURS BEFORE IT HAPPEND! I ACTUALLY GAVE HER SEVERAL MESSAGES AND UPDATED HER MANY TIMES BEFORE THE INCIDENT OCCURED.

"but then given you are already trying to justify an obvious nap breach by making stuff up"

once again, this is BS! lol. what have i made up? and what NAP have i broken?

im beginning to see there is no point arguing you, cause you just ignor what im saying and then repeat yourself.

and for the record:  "I guess all of VU is beginning to see that some people have no honour. "

eh, if you had payed some attention while you were here at VU, then you would understand that the "beginning" did not just start:P i think its a pretty well known fact that there has been dishonorable people here for a long time:P i do not consider myself one of them, and you are the first person i have heard saying that about me (if my guess is correct, you were refering to me)

3- as if anything vapour says will be truthful LOL you yourself were talking about kicking him out. Just because I was pissed off at rebirth doesnt mean I was going to do anything dishonourable, Just because Overcome allowed Vapour and ben to do something douchey doesnt mean we would do the same I wnated to get reinforcemnets to kevins city, and I even said open for 5 min so I could set path, its not rocket science even for a *beep*.

again you come up with lies and twist the truth to your advantage. I have never talked about kicking Vapor, all though i said he is an ass (witch he knows about, cause we have had plenty of fights between ourself in the past and beginning of this era)

and its such a sweet irony when you lie in the same sentence as you are calling Vapor a lier xD

and why if you wanted to reinforce his city (was that Rax IX?) did u want to go throug our blocker to do that? and YES that does comfirm my worries. if you wanted the blocker open for 5 min, then that is way enough time for a Mayhem army to set cours past our city and walls into our core.

and that is not rocken science either, my friend.

As for the FF reject posting, everyone here knows what you did last era I dont need to lie your rep speaks for itself, last era you scumbags prepped an invasion and then used a really weak excuse to war dark, there was a thread about it where other players said that what did was scummy so I could care less if you lie now, you were busted.

here i actually have to pass lol. who is FF? and yes, our reputation speaks for itself. i have yet to meet a KD that think Rebirth are dishonest or not a good NAP partner (untill now though xD all though i find the accuses from you to be hilerius)

and lol, excuse me if my memorie is bad, but we didnt war Dark last era? and what thread. YET AGAIN you just throw accuses with no backup out here.
i cant discuss something i dont know what you are talking about, so please explane yourself.

"I am going to expect You to do the right thing Overcome, you have no leg to stand on and if your contention is that you can kill armies of ALLIES  who have a nap with you , im wondering how well that will go over."

you mean you expect me to do what you think is right? so that mean you expect me to do something that i think is wrong?

why in the world would i want to wast troops on a ally? huh? i lost 600nazguls in that battle, witch was ment for Mayhem. i feelt bad when i did it, but it was neccecery at that time, and like i have explaned before. i had reasons to believe you were going to change KD and attack in the favor of Mayhem. (witch i have also explaned)

"Hey Prised, you are lying so badly now it is kind of hard to "trust" your words.  You have 0 proof of anything you have stated.  If our rep is so bad, how come Fant KDs still wanted to recruit all three of us? Obviously they could care less about what happened between our KDs or they don't believe a damned word you say.  When you run out of "proof" you just simply try to discredit people with assumptions, theories, and other bullsh-t.  I was "supposedly" busted by you, but since when did you become the police? Since when did your word mean anything to anyone outside of your KD? You are just making me laugh my ass off because I know that this is a game and you are raging."

i feel like screaming AMEN:P

Ademo: "Yes, but that's pure speculation. You can try and justify it all you like, fact is, you were wrong."

lol., and what da funk are you doing xD? its not speculations, its my opinion and its well documented in my opinion. unlike your mate, Prised:P

-Damn if anyone still pays attention to this thread any longer, then i dont know whats driving them^^

ah, Penguin. objectiv as always.

"As for the FF reject posting, everyone here knows what you did last era I dont need to lie your rep speaks for itself, last era you scumbags prepped an invasion and then used a really weak excuse to war dark, there was a thread about it where other players said that what did was scummy so I could care less if you lie now, you were busted."

does anyone know what he is talking about here, please enlgithen me.

i cant remember any of this, and i have spoken to 4 other Rebirth members that dont have a clue what its about o.O

ah, sorry i realise that wasent ment for me then:P

thanks=)

therefor, no NAP break, no bad intentions from us, no dishonorable acts from us.


You already broke NAP and became dishonourable when you attacked Prised. Don't kid yourself.

the only one kidding here is you, mate;)

So im curious then, was taking the cities from grave done to make sure we couldnt take them back?  That does seem a bit like you helping out someone you said left your alliance, unless of course they didnt actually leave and you are still helping them. but then that would lead us to believe that perhaps you were acting dishonourably and that would be hard to believe given your novels here where you claim otherwise.

You keep saying im lying yet the EVIDENCE  is pretty clear that you are helping Ben and Vapour, you have now taken a blocker in between us and them that we gave to you in order to help you earlier in the era, was that because they knew they couldnt hold it and we wont break the nap that you obviously have no respect for? you dont have cities on that side anymore so why would you take the blocker from them?

you have also taken cities from them that they took from dark and obviously couldnt hold and you are now saying you wont be giving them back either, Im just curious as to how you justify this as well. I am curious as to how you think that is honourable as well. what seems to be becoming rather obvious is that you dont repect even the spirit of a nap let alone the letter of one.

Oh I just checked, im still tagged Dark btw.


now for demonbull*beep*ter, you guys have some skilled players but as leaders you were dishonourable scum, and from the PM's I have received its not just dark who know it, you guys thought everyone would forget that you prepped an invasion on dark while napped but apparently not everyone has as short a memory as you would like.

So im curious then, was taking the cities from grave done to make sure we couldnt take them back?  That does seem a bit like you helping out someone you said left your alliance, unless of course they didnt actually leave and you are still helping them. but then that would lead us to believe that perhaps you were acting dishonourably and that would be hard to believe given your novels here where you claim otherwise.

uhh backoffass was my best mine if i could get it back i probly would

You keep saying im lying yet the EVIDENCE  is pretty clear that you are helping Ben and Vapour, you have now taken a blocker in between us and them that we gave to you in order to help you earlier in the era, was that because they knew they couldnt hold it and we wont break the nap that you obviously have no respect for? you dont have cities on that side anymore so why would you take the blocker from them?

i was actually mad at this we benji had 100k troops up here and i had a whole lot also and soon as we left to take out a city we eits red took our blocker, we had plans to move our main merge up and get reinforcements but after red took the blocker we couldn't do that

you have also taken cities from them that they took from dark and obviously couldnt hold and you are now saying you wont be giving them back either, Im just curious as to how you justify this as well. I am curious as to how you think that is honourable as well. what seems to be becoming rather obvious is that you dont repect even the spirit of a nap let alone the letter of one

my armory in there core was taken just now i lost alot of axers and mu
the other citys are in there core i dont see why they would give them back at least i burnt them before they got em

Overcome,  How can you say you had no control over 2 players in your kingdom?  you then NAP them.  Seriously.  if they want to leave your kingdom you tell them rebirth will be at war with them.  that is how you exert control.  So next tim eyou have some control issues in you kingdom just come to me for advice and I'll happily advize you.

haha who was that? :D

lol

Pimp says "Prick Prised should go fcuk himself"

And lol...ur a useless KD on the best of days.

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