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"What happened to Vengeance?"

We are just doing a strategic fallback. Soon our evil masterplan shall destroy you all!!!   ;)  *pushing a big red button* ....  *silence*   Hmm..  "error"?  oh..crap..

lol @ gravedigger. i think i broke it when i got upset at demonev and vrag :)

why did you get kicked?

Wow lots of RET members flaming suddenly... I understand you're upset because you think you'll lose the era because of this (which you won't, you have already lost, even without us farming on Vengeance), but you don't know half the reasons this is happening, and your arguments make no sense. Opening the blocker was a decision made by Foundation leadership and if it violates any of their NAP relationships, let those allies complain on the forums (I'm confident the action in question does not violate any written or unwritten rules to which the kingdom of Fate is currently bound).

It is not up to you, RET, to come in here and judge actions between two other kingdoms, especially because you are at war with both of them, which makes it unlikely for you to claim you know everything about Fate kingdom relations.

Note: this is a personal statement and cannot be seen as official Godlike Nubs kingdom statement. I just wanted to say this, contact a vice for a official Godlike Nubs reaction on this matter ;)

THIS IS HOW IT STARTED:

Vrag got upset that his farm got taken by RET and when the merge went to take it back it wasn't given back...Went into the KD forums throwing a tantrum about it. I tried to talk him down and even offered to help him take another farm if he needed on that badly. He left the kd and started attack us (whilst we were fight RET). THEN..demonev FOLLOWED him around and took all the cities Vrag had taken, and took EVERY ONE for himself...didn't return not a 1 to their owners even after i asked him about in chat.

1st He was attacked before doing anything to you.
2nd He was aware of this and warned you not to attack him or he will respond.
3th I warned everybody in our forum what are his intentions and ask nobody to attack him
4th. I did not go out of KD and i did not attack nobody, even though I was by far the most powerful in the KD for several days, instead of this I stood on the positions till the last troop, hoping that this gives you time to prepare yourselves better to fight back.
5th. I was kicked without any discussion, questioning or whatsoever attempt from V leaders to solve the problem we had.
6th. In the moment I was kicked my towns have been attacked by allies from prosapia, and for me that means it was coordinated with leaders or some of them before ;0)

I will explain you.... V kicked me, but before this they advised prosapia to attack my towns right after I am kicked and because you are allies with prosapia you can not take them. ;0)

everybody wants to eat the ass of the fat old dwarf ;0)

@ Qassim: I have absolute trust in the ability of our members to point whore :) Especially our Number 1 whore of this era: Messiah :D

@ Sloth: as far as I'm aware the decision of Fate opening their blockers was out of pure self preservation, Godlike Nubs protecting them from attacks by their enemies.

And yes Osiris, that blocker thing is a nuisance to you of course, we all know that. But fact is our relations with Fate are that of a mutual alliance, while our relations with RET are still only a NAP. Instead of looking at it from your point of view (betraying RET), you could also consider this as an act to increase confidence for a future MAP between RET and Nubs. We stand by our pacts and put them before every other relationship.

Anyway I'm not interfering in here anymore since I don't want to start a fight with RET, who I respect and who we have had good relations with this entire era, and I am not part of our leadership anyway so I don't really have a right to discuss anything because I don't know details about the decisionmaking process that has taken place.

We can still get sloth to win not that hard XD all we gotta do is go at Fate then with everything 2-3 mil troops should suffice :)

You blocked us out of Vengeance, so we went farther north, once again, overreaction on your part.....

Ummmm yea explain this cause all era except til like half a week ago their was a path you could have taken to get to V not until half a week ago did we close the gates in the cities up towards V where the merge fight was going on and that was only because Insane kept BT around taking cities.

so you wouldnt mind if we went and built blockers around all yours so you cant move. feed sloth everysingle building we could. kick half our members and give those cities to sloth hell its all within our right to play as dirty as you no?

Ummmm yea explain this cause all era except til like half a week ago their was a path you could have taken to get to


  We were fighting legacy (pks, dark, and a couple others sent troops our way, but I won't count those), but we were already diverting troops to the city "Volyne"  and preparing a merge, by the time legacy was dead and our merge was strong enough to go do damage, you had closed up the gates. Finwe is comparing two things that aren't similar so I won't respond there.

 Sorry that really is the last post I can make, I'm leaving now :/  Dlf take a chill pill.


 Later.

it is very similar.

"even if it has undertones of something else, we're perfectly within our rights to do so, no "dirty play".   
   Ofc we want Messaih to win, but we would never directly attack sloth or RET. And trying to get Messaih some cities before sloth does? it's a point race, get over it :(        "

and throwing all our cities at sloth would be within our rights and its a race get over it?

Sigh.... I am going to talk about one part and it will be my only post about this.

The moment Nubs were forced to NAP Prosapia and march into Zetamania for war, that was the moment I thought we had lost our chance to win the era as largest kingdom.

Why so? Because my kingdom was built to be almost a pure war kingdom. Out of the original 27 members, we have 3 halflings, 5 humans, 3 elves... and 16 orcs!!! And everyone knows that orc is not a farm race. And everyone knows as well, that we have alot of our holdings in Zetamania, which do not count for any scores on Fantasia (we fought DR and LGC on Zetamania full on - a 100% power equivalent to us). I knew that our chances of winning the kingdom race on Fantasia was already limited with this ridiculous map conditions.

Right now, all our orcs are walking around with at least 12 - 15 K nazguls. A couple of others have over 20 K nazguls, and I personally have 25K nazguls. Most of our humans and all of our elves are war specialists... meaning they are very catapult and archmage heavy. But guess what.... we have no one to war (well, now DE has pulled their stupid stunt on us, so yeah, we have someone to war).... and all these firepower we have are certainly not going to do wonders for our farming score. Not to mention we lost 2 of our halfling players as well, and we have no dwarves or trolls to jack up the point score. So if anyone says we are trying to win the farm race against Retribution... shut it. We are trying to go north to get to that dirty kingdom that backstabbed us, and if Retribution will not allow us to go through their blockers, we will find a way to go north somehow.

Bugger off DLO. If Mars thinks we can win, then that is his thought. I do not think we can win with our race set up, and that is my thought. If you cannot tell the difference, then your head is stuck way too far up in crap.

TBL it has nothing to do with mars. i know that DE are hitting you in zeta (which is south ofc) i also know that your aim is to stop us getting first. and that in your attempt to win this era you probably screwed your next era relations. good job.

I'll let my dear vice sloth answer that ;)

<@``sloth> lol
<@``sloth> berserkers no better than nazgul for hoh points
<@``sloth> by cost/point ratio

Knish is in Fantasia DLO. And we can reach Mantraxt with a couple of days walk :)

And well, go ahead and insist what our aims are. This era doesn't really concern me anymore.

yeah he takes V town and gives to you?

1st He was attacked before doing anything to you. (So he wasn't sitting on V cities?)
2nd He was aware of this and warned you not to attack him or he will respond.  (So he wasn't sitting on V cities?)

3th I warned everybody in our forum what are his intentions and ask nobody to attack him (OK, nobody was going to attack, vrag forced the action)
4th. I did not go out of KD and i did not attack nobody, even though I was by far the most powerful in the KD for several days, instead of this I stood on the positions till the last troop, hoping that this gives you time to prepare yourselves better to fight back.    LOL "most powerful" with 70k hammers and 15k axemen...LOL yeah right pleez.
5th. I was kicked without any discussion, questioning or whatsoever attempt from V leaders to solve the problem we had.  (This is true, I only found out today)
6th. In the moment I was kicked my towns have been attacked by allies from prosapia, and for me that means it was coordinated with leaders or some of them before ;0)       (absolutely not.  KDless people are fleshly blood in a pool of sharks)

6th. In the moment I was kicked my towns have been attacked by allies from prosapia, and for me that means it was coordinated with leaders or some of them before ;0)

We saw 2 tagless players moving armies around, its a threat, we attacked it.

It is totally not true, I was attacked and Plovdiv was taken, before i knew I am kicked of the KD (even though I was active at that moment). In the moment I received message that i am kicked i opened news and saw that my town is attacked and taken by player from prosapia. When asking him why, he said he was told to attack by his leaders. And all this within 5 min.  Do not explain me it was not organized.
All during that time I was speaking with other memmbers of prosapia, trying to help with dorian problem.

I would like to ask honorable and descent memmbers from vengeance to join in this discussion and to lighten a little bit this kicking issue.

OK,
So do not pity your losses.

it is not a treat it is a fact. From now on till the end of the era I can only win.
And if in the end of the ara i am still in top ten, it will be so so funny. ;0)

It looks like Ret are desperate to win the era. Launching a surprise attack on us.

Well, better send the rest of your force down there. Qassim army won't last long.