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| Fantasia 81 | ||||
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| 15:03:19 Dec 14th 21 - King BurningLegion (Mr. Burninglegion The Calamity): Tried but we let Fred in lol | ||||
| 15:37:41 Dec 14th 21 - Percy (Sir Percy The Workshop Elf): Plague was going to be a serious competitor until some of their crew went inactive. Its not for lack of trying, I'll give it that much :) | ||||
| 16:48:48 Dec 14th 21 - Lord Jellybean (Lord Jellybean): Just watching :) If I play properly it will be with Seven Deadly Sins ^_^ | ||||
| 21:27:01 Dec 14th 21 - Mr. Zerkool: er zerks are in hiobernation mode due to various reasons mainly real life.. ofc we are going to get beaten if we are not online.. | ||||
| 21:56:29 Dec 14th 21 - SFD (Duke Sleigh Fat Decks): Yeh you did mention last era that you were all not very active so that's fair. If only there was a way for you to have more members *cough* join mad *cough | ||||
| 01:35:54 Dec 15th 21 - Mr. Pooooa: 16:37:44 Dec 13th 21 - Mr. Aloysius: we are aware how low skilled we look to everyone else who have convoluted ideas of how this game should be played. Putting rules that can be enforced by forum bashing, nagging and whining. good luck to that. Report Nice try, but the part that was egregious about it was the fact you guys said on the forums that you wouldn't do it (Moses walk over bugged terrain), waited until all the armies were moved out, then attacked the city. Just face the facts, guys, you were afraid of Albatross (a kingdom full of literal new players) so you lied/cheated to ensure a win! Also a good try on the "we're afk" one. Pretty convenient everyone leaves right when a real kingdom shows up and absolutely wrecks you. Maybe move to one of the new player world so you can go back to bullying new players out of the game? | ||||
| 03:45:36 Dec 15th 21 - Mr. Mavich: Aww how cute. Someone is trying to pick a fight against us again. Just don't go crying and whining and threating to leave and try to dm/talk in discord to people how bad we are and end up just to disband and reform another KD okay? MAD is the only consistent KD I've known/seen who has been here in Fant era by era prolly since the early start of VU (still headed by the same person btw). They win, they lose. They gain people. They lose people. They don't give a sh8t what you think. Most of us in this side of VU don't need validations from any righteous prick who thinks we should play their way of VU. Just play the got damn game. It is what it is. | ||||
| 06:26:09 Dec 15th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Sol Invictus): A KD of Homunculi, Jelly, Ghost, Edi, and Dread would be a very serious start to a solid KD. | ||||
| 09:18:19 Dec 15th 21 - Schepp (Doctor Schepp): So in order to make the game more fun - you - the largest and most active kingdom, who won the past era and who’s members are claiming it’s too easy - ALREADY want an NAP with a potential new kingdom containing highly skilled veteran players? Golly Jee, you really DO care about the poor down trodden players! I try not to feed forum flames but what is this crap? A personal vendetta against two or three players?? | ||||
| 09:39:43 Dec 15th 21 - Lady Jasmina: You have to take into consideration bunch of players (myself included) took a break from VU mostly because of the stuff Zerkers (and Mad) were doing. Mad players even admitting they let Zerkers plunder their warehouses, even thought you see Zerkers still claim no cheating was happening (proof were posted on forums by Mad player) We form a good thing on Valhalla to try to make the game more fair. House of Durin (Zerker players) comes to map and claims they will use all the bugs they can, just to ruin the game for others (PDC said that in forums I saw it) And new kingdoms that appear, like Anti Discord this era, they will need help as they will be targeted by Zerkers like this era, PDC showing extreme activity just to kill them, and then when Imperium comes they suddenly become less active. It is their own gameplay that made them be a target, nothing else. | ||||
| 10:01:40 Dec 15th 21 - Mr. Aloysius: they want to run the game this way. Complain in the forum, Nag in the forum, and whine in the forum. Until all of the player here adhere to their absolute rules and ideas. | ||||
| 10:27:35 Dec 15th 21 - Lady Jasmina: Is bug abusing (walking over terrain) that difficult to not do? (There was no other agreement in Valhalla whatsoever) | ||||
| 11:58:40 Dec 15th 21 - Mr. Zerkool: jasmina you seem to forget that you yourself was using bugs against us.. when we lost against holy, your guys walked past our blockers that did not block even though they looked like they did.. but you know what happened? we got on with it and did not complain even though we lost.. that is a fundamental difference between us and you.. we do not care if you use bugs against us.. Also whoever this poof guy is i am working up to 16-18 hours a day due to xmas season and can only log once in a blue moon.. do u people seriously think it would be soo easy to take my cities if i was active.. dales hardly on as well.. we are only logging in because we love vu and want to play with our comrades.. if we lose who frigging cares? | ||||
| 13:18:24 Dec 15th 21 - Schepp (Doctor Schepp The Grizzly): Jas you and I used to play together quite a bit. Have you ever known me to use unfair antics? Is it fair to condemn a kingdom and all its members for era after era? Upon my return I joined MAD because they have been around forever and I enjoy the tradition of a long standing kingdom. Let’s move on.. some folks have built themselves a nice large pedestal since I was last playing. Not you Jas - I’m still a big fan ;) | ||||
| 14:45:31 Dec 15th 21 - Lady Jasmina: Mike, Holy was so long ago that I don't remember what happened back then. If something like that is happening best is to write to that person who is doing that. If you ignore it, there is a chance they will do it again. Can't really say if I was doing that or what map that was, most maps are compete crap in this game... Schepp, Mad member actually wrote on forums about the plundering and apologized, respect for them in that regard, no other complains about them. They are put in same basket because Zerkers are ex Mad members, they got tired of inactive leadership and left to make a new kingdom while Mad remained so they can keep their longest running kingdom up. And they are always NAPed which makes a large alliance on this world, so another large kingdoms is needed to counter. | ||||
| 15:16:01 Dec 15th 21 - Percy (Sir Percy The Workshop Elf): When players join KDs like MAD/Zerkers and dont fight against the mechanics abuse, you tend to be complicit in it... I dont speak for Igniz, but can only assume he felt similar when Fred ate Plague, which is why I assume he left and wrecked his stuff. He saw blatant feeding, and he didnt want any part of it. Especially given he had a big outcry towards Question Mark on Mantrax supposedly doing that very thing in the last era there. That is what has driven many away from Fant and the game as a whole, as that is an unfair advantage to all. I honestly dont care about terrain bugs anymore (which has been a common point of contention). We wont use them unless someone uses them against us. CW is cheap enough anyways, no need to abuse map bugs. Some things you cant change. But as far as outright feeding to gain an unfair competitive advantage? There should be no question where a person stands on that. THAT is what we are against. | ||||
| 17:04:36 Dec 15th 21 - Mr. Aloysius: Ahh. I get it now. The goal is to make us disband because of the past/history they can never forget unless you hit the change name button and change kingdom logo button. It’s like them, when they form Imperium, All of the cheating and bug abuse from their side is vanquish just like that. I got it now.. they are now clean. | ||||
| 17:43:47 Dec 15th 21 - Konspyre (Captain Kerstman): i'm impressed you guys still have the energy for this, i gave up long ago | ||||
| 18:08:38 Dec 15th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Sol Invictus): Schepp, the last 5 or so eras when mad + zerks had more than 20-25 players combined between them and together bullied many, many KDs thereby driving away most from Fantasia. | ||||
| 18:18:16 Dec 15th 21 - SFD (Duke Sleigh Fat Decks): Can't we all just get along, except for Fred! Fred is a meanie :3 | ||||
| 18:22:30 Dec 15th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Sol Invictus): I agree. Fred is a poopiehead. | ||||
| 18:31:58 Dec 15th 21 - Mr. Mavich: Tbh, we just driven away whining players like the noob basher and some-ive-played-20+-eras- and-but-still-cant-understand-how-ownage-works-players away from fant. The rest are still here playing on/off depending on rl status. | ||||
| 18:33:38 Dec 15th 21 - SFD (Duke Sleigh Fat Decks): So you thunk B') | ||||
| 18:38:30 Dec 15th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Sol Invictus): Honestly Mav, I think you guys got bored more than anything else. In the last 5 eras (once again excluding the last), you guys haven't had any "real" KDs to fight. | ||||
| 19:07:14 Dec 15th 21 - Mr. Mavich: Actually, i can only play vu when i have work, and i lost mine since september this year. Now, im on a month long vacation to my home country for the holidays and will start to look for work again when i get back. Sorry for having the "we're afk" ones excuse these past eras, but we dont really care if you believe us or what you think. We will rise up when we can regardless if there is a challenge or not. We just play the game the way we want to, without the dramas. | ||||
| 19:21:01 Dec 15th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Sol Invictus): I'm sorry to hear that Mav, I know the world economy has been fairly screwed for the last year or two :-/ | ||||
| 20:19:43 Dec 15th 21 - Percy (Sir Percy The Workshop Elf): @Aloy - Once again, I challenge you to find one case where we abuse game mechanics or bugs to our advantage. I’ll wait… @Mav - That is sad to hear :/ banter and gameplay aside, I hope you find a new job fairly quickly upon your return @Jasper - If not this, then forums are dead and the game gets even more boring than it already is. Gotta have something to get the fire alive 🤷♂️ | ||||
| 20:46:04 Dec 15th 21 - Mr. Aloysius: It’s not my habit to whine and accuse people regarding game mechanics. I prefer sending message to zeta if I have a concern regarding it though. Not like the righteous people here who prefer using kingdom politics thread. | ||||
| 22:44:23 Dec 15th 21 - Mr. Ghostface: Message to game admin would be pointless because things discussed here are not against game rules, like agreeing to plunder each other (unless its multi) or walking over badly plotted terrain. That is not against game rules so no point in writing to Zeta. But its simple if both kingdoms are honorable and respectable, like in Valhalla, Ravens asked Albatross to not walk over terrain on blocker Few days later, Raven (myself) tried walking over a moutain to Alba core Alba wrote to me, I asked leaders they said dont do that so I pulled back. Its very simple to arrange things like this. | ||||
| 22:58:14 Dec 15th 21 - Endless (Lady Styx): honorable and respectable lmao, you just said Ravens wasn’t prepared for the unexpected so they asked and received a reprieve when Alba clearly had an advantage and then knowing that, you tried to do exactly what they tried lolool | ||||
| 22:58:15 Dec 15th 21 - Endless (Lady Styx): so you are obedient | ||||
| 23:23:29 Dec 15th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Sol Invictus): Endless, what did we say before? If you can't say something nice, simply talk about how Quantum Field Theory is generally accepted as an accurate description of the subatomic universe. However until recently this theory had one giant hole in it. The particles it describes had no mass! The Higgs field and the Higgs mechanism were proposed long ago in order to give particles mass, but it was only in 2012 that the existence of the field was proved with the discovery of the Higgs boson by the Large Hadron Collider. How exactly can the Higgs field "give" something mass, which really open the door to a deeper understanding of what mass really is? | ||||
| 00:28:57 Dec 16th 21 - Endless (Lady Styx): unwelcome observations, understood ….now if you could just direct the rest of them to stop posting funny sh!t I’ll have an easier time complying to your wishes | ||||
| 01:42:58 Dec 16th 21 - Konstant (The Ancient Aeneas of Troy): I mean come on Endless, if this is how some people want to play, let them play, ya know? They're not even trying to force it on anyone, just trying to do it among themselves. | ||||
| 01:44:40 Dec 16th 21 - Konspyre (Captain Kerstman): Ngl, I'm backing Endless in this, she's just being herself instead of randomly acting out like others do :P | ||||
| 02:14:05 Dec 16th 21 - Endless (Lady Styx): I’m all about playing however you want and I’m not going down this conversation route again, been there done that moving on, hence no comments on the thread (whomever wants to keep rehashing are welcome to go there) but that was a seriously funny post and I honestly couldn’t resist even though I know better. Best laugh all week so far. Jas <3 I appreciate that you understand me | ||||
| 07:04:04 Dec 16th 21 - Mr. Ghost II: I am not even sure what your post means Endless Our city Bigtown does not block even though visually it should But you can walk all over the mountain under it... Aloy did that, we suggested its not cool and Aloy then stopped using that passage Few days later, their city Kingdom looks like it blocks but you can easily walk over moutain on the right, so I pathed Karmatic saw it, wrote to me. I pulled back after being explained we do not do that. Both kingdoms have had a chance to use bugged terrain in their advantage but didn't. So not sure what your post is about. | ||||
| 22:33:58 Dec 16th 21 - Endless (Lady Styx): do both kingdoms think using bugged terrain is honorable type gameplay or dishonorable? rhetorical if the first kingdom complained and both kingdoms agreed to not do it, what does it say about you by trying it anyways ? honorable or dishonorable? respectable or disreputable? just unaware of the agreement ? endless possibilities on whatever words might be chosen, also rhetorical My comment was directed at you implying it was considered honorable gameplay to agree to not doing something you think is dishonorable gameplay AFTER you both tried doing it, I just thought that was funny | ||||
| 06:41:51 Dec 17th 21 - Mr. Ghost II: Its a matter of bad communication, with everyone doing stuff on Discord, so few of us that do not use that are sometimes stuck with less knowledge whats going on. You are missing the point of the post, point is both decided not to walk over terrain, its not about me not knowing the agreement. | ||||
| 08:27:35 Dec 17th 21 - fred (Mr. Terrorist Fred): is there any post about the updates of Races cz troll looks better then halfler | ||||
| 09:14:12 Dec 17th 21 - Endless (Lady Styx): I just explained what was funny to me in your post, nothing honorable or respectable in an agreement afterwards imo, if you want to think otherwise so be it. “ But its simple if both kingdoms are honorable and respectable, like in Valhalla” “ I am not even sure what your post means Endless” | ||||
| 10:17:11 Dec 17th 21 - Prince Krampus: Fred, from my perspective as a newish player; Started with Orc, played them the most in my starting eras, still do Really like the race, love the early start, hate the mid era, love the late era... Got to the point in mid era that I want to quit Orcs due to them being so weak So I started playing Halfer in Fantasia and once in Zeta to test it out, and its great But as you reach 40 days play on the map, then you start loving Orcs again And by that time, Halfers fall behind and the are no longer that fun. Trolls are sort of a military race, they are decent all era, its for fighting style of play I do not like it because when you're Orc you get magic cover as well, aotd is easy If you self aotd as Troll you might get in trouble with few failed spells... Force march peasants as Orc is wonderful, as well as Naz speed Trolls do not have any of these little things that other races have. Technically Halfers are stronger at early stage of the era than Trolls, there are a few that seem to be step ahead of others as Trolls, but overall I do not think they are better as a race. Might be there are more elite Troll players than Halfers at the moment. | ||||
| 10:42:01 Dec 17th 21 - fred (Mr. Fred The Terrorist): Actually i won eras with almost all races, except troll i was asking if they update anything related to this race. | ||||
| 10:44:57 Dec 17th 21 - Prince Krampus: No, nothing changed regarding Trolls Last update was the change to aotd, making it a little bit harder to cast, thats all.Recent game updates | ||||
| 12:08:29 Dec 17th 21 - GEO (Ms. Jenna): Cant we all just hug, dance and be merry :) | ||||
| 13:51:29 Dec 17th 21 - SFD (Duke Sleigh Fat Decks): Real Jenna or imposter? <_< | ||||
| 13:54:53 Dec 17th 21 - Percy (Sir Percy The Workshop Elf): @ Elle- ZeTa claims he made AotD harder, but he never actually implemented what he said he did. “Dead troops” are still only factored in AotD, and injured troops arent factored into spell difficulty at all. The only “nerf” was changing of how medical sciences worked, where the old med 4 is the new med 5. Just means you lose more injured for a given med science now. That’s the only thing ZeTa actually changed despite what that message log claims. @Fred - Troll hasn’t received any buffs that I know of, but I think the point is they haven’t been nerfed at all either. They are pound for pound the strongest race in the game, and they can be legitimately competitive all era long, one of the few to boast that. I know Halfer has been your main, and compared to them, you lose out on the D0-D2 OOP dominance, but starting D2 Troll can be a heck of an OOP fighter, and can maintain that all era without sacrificing end game. I think you’d like it, honestly. | ||||
| 15:09:16 Dec 17th 21 - GEO (Ms. Jenna): The one and only Jennaside SFD | ||||
| 15:13:57 Dec 17th 21 - GEO (Ms. Jennaside): hmmm suspicious SFD | ||||
| 15:58:36 Dec 17th 21 - SFD (Duke Sleigh Fat Decks): Been a long time Jenna :D | ||||
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