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Also, gim jhhgj h fghjjumn is *NOT* beothuk. I think only a few of gim jhhgj h fghjjumn players have even played in beothuk.

I can't see where anyone actually called us beofck but I distance myself from that filth as much as possible. pls dnt insalt meh
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Imagine how great it would be if you could queue up actions in VU

Your victory is impressive and well deserved, it was not the point of my post :) You did well this era, and you were much better than the rest of the map, you guys were strong oop while the rest of the world were planning on a little late era action, and we were wrong to do so.

I agree with parts of everything that you are all saying. As far as OOP goes I think that gim was able to clear out a lot of enemies but I'm probably the only player who was actually 'better off' for having fought OOP than I would have been farming whilst everyone else took an economic hit that wasn't too awful in a relative sense due to the scale of the era if we won OOP.

MAD basically had the expected contribution from their core players but didn't have a strong OOP- the people who you could probably predict were going to do useful kingdom contribution things in MAD were the people who actually did and that short list included players like Aloysius, Bluelight, Anonymous, Dragon, Malimor, and Kobuskan. There was also a Troll player and someone else who's name I'm forgetting. Outside of those players there were definitely some huge misplays like building up very large armories that contained zero troops or guard towers, more commonly just building not good cities with LOTS of guard towers and not having actual troops, and things of that nature.

Some of MAD's core players like Anonymous weren't in a good spot for OOP and I think you can argue that Elf and Dwarf are not ideal OOP races either- you combine that with the fact that a lot of MAD opted to overbuild GT and it's a recipe for not good results when you are fighting 1/2-1/3 of a strong kingdom.

Binh and Fordius didn't really benefit from OOP more than they would have from farming. I'd say that Fordius ended up in the same situation that a lot of Shaolin's players in the west did where he has to train a lot of troops to capture cities that he has to just raze the next tick. Binh and Hanky didn't get huge plunders but weren't hugely set back. A handful of our later starters and lower activity players got set back extremely far OOP. I opted not to raze my 'useless land' on the premise that I would go all-in with training and tax gold thus the cost of building was irrelevant and building upkeep was a non-issue vs the tax gold and peasant levy.

There were some Vinci who put up a really good fight, when I look at Vinci's current roster of 7 players I only see 2 who did not contribute meaningfully but some people clearly left the KD at this point. That said I think that Binh's very large Swordsmen army on one end and a large stack of hammerthrowers on the other swung 2 fronts in our favor immediately, and what got me extremely fed was plundering inactive vinci players who rebuilt elsewhere- I think everyone but JLT went inactive so it was just tons of free mines and resources at a time when we had just finished our costly OOPs and Shaolin had taken our blocker.

As a whole I think that both the dynamic of the map as well as the way people played factors in heavily to the way that things panned out. I'm not going to come on the forums and bash people for doing sub-optimal builds and strategies but there is no denying that there were some huge blunders made that were very costly such as:

Building a large armory with no troops or defenses whatsoever OOP
Lack of troops and over-abundance of Guard Towers and poor economic cities
Poor racial composition for OOP (relavent to MAD and to a lesser degree Vinci, Shaolin racial composition looks fine)
Building a Dwarf armory with 17k armories
Feeding thousands of land worth of well built mines to a high military science Orc on a map where almost everyone took a hit OOP and has a weak economy
Poor magic coverage outside of Shaolin and post-OOP post-STG anonymous that left many players very weak to Nazgul, which are hard to defend against if you lack high activity or a mage

The nail in the coffin for the wars in the SW corner was losing both Shaolin MCs, but that's less of a misplay or blunder and more of just getting out-trained by a higher land player and being unable to match my army (To Woody of Shaolin's credit he bounced a part of my army once when I first passed over the CW'd town, but then he couldnt match it a 2nd time and lost all of his cities to nazgul at the same time which immediately removed one of Shaolin's more useful players)

Last round of Fant was not very enjoyable and a lot activity has moved towards GvE so you can expect that Fantasia Age 31 will be hard to predict.

wow, monks, lords of war AND MAD are all NAPed.

No, I'm a human this era. ;)

i will be creating a kd to take on MAD!

The Jester Empire will return to Fantasia. Applications after the era!

could zeta add tiles to a map thats already in play so that new and dead players can land there?

I think it was good because when they died they got to spawn on a lower locked world and start ovee

I usually dont care about people leaving kingdoms.. but this is just dumb he left our kingdom and joined an enemy kingdom.. please dont accept this guy in any kingdoms. 

was unaware Black flag was an enemy. I wanted to know where you was before i decided if i should join , I had been talking about joining black flag before you even approached me. I joined your kingdom when invited to see how much of the map you could see. 

Can someone provide an update on how things are going on fant? Does it look like arma will be casted soon?

is jesters still happening

of course jester is happening

its real in the sense that it exists..

but no its not real