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| 17:42:58 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Carbon: Lewatha - And based on that conclusion (arrived at without absolutely any evidence - do you see Elements manipulating the slave market?) Osiris still forced Zeta's hand because he did not like Water being 'fed' and wanted to get rid of him. A moderator like Osiris threatening Zeta... tsk tsk tsk... who would have thought, LOL!!! So if Osiris does not like me for whining in the forums, or he does not like the whole Elements kingdom, he can whine to Zeta again and force Zeta to delete us too under purported 'multieing', right?
Gonzo - I am just speechless at your all goodness speech. Water was deleted for being a multi. Hear hear! Remove Osiris for abuse of power and breach of trust. Hell, delete him too... for he has failed in his sacred duty as a moderator and has used his position to force Zeta to delete someone who was playing at a superior level from him.
Let me pose 3 questions to you Retribution clowns: 1) If Water or Elements did not have such big armies.... would Osiris have even paid any attention to Elements and notified Zeta that Water was a cheator? 2) If Osiris knew since the beginning of the era that Water / Penguin had been multieing, why didn't he throw down an ultimatum to Zeta to do the righteous and delete Water / Penguin? 3) What guarantee is there Osiris would never abuse his power or position again for his own personal benefit or for his kingdom's benefit? Happy answering! :) | ||||
| 17:45:35 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: "Don't give me the crap about it not being possible that Water was fed his 10K naz."
maybe i should get a copy of our forums (elements) where i was arguing with them.. my point was to make 5600 nazzies but i made 10k ;) i dont need feeding ;) | ||||
| 17:48:29 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Peacemakerofdoomwowowowowowowo: hmm... lets answer, (im not in retribution) and im just a bit bored so i'll try answering these very very hard questions. | ||||
| 17:48:49 Jul 22nd 08 - Pirate Lewatha: First of all, you should be grateful to me instead of calling me a retribution clown. I could also just have told everyone the real identities of the elements but I didn't because I had respect for the most of you. I too, am ex-element, and I shut up about everything that had to do with elements. than, your questions: 1) If Water or Elements did not have such big armies.... would Osiris have even paid any attention to Elements and notified Zeta that Water was a cheator? Only Osiris can answer that? 2) If Osiris knew since the beginning of the era that Water / Penguin had been multieing, why didn't he throw down an ultimatum to Zeta to do the righteous and delete Water / Penguin? He's been a mod for... 3 days?... Not really much time to delete him... Do you think Zeta would listen if a person like you or me would report it to him? No, he wouldn't, he hardly even responds to me on msn and I even payed him 31 euros to expand this game with. 3) What guarantee is there Osiris would never abuse his power or position again for his own personal benefit or for his kingdom's benefit? He didn't abuse his power...? | ||||
| 17:49:42 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Peacemakerofdoomwowowowowowowo: penguin any guide to making 10k nazzies | ||||
17:49:53 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great:
Why dont you make like your Deleted Multi and gtfo out VU? | ||||
| 17:50:18 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: osi knewd i was multi since last era maybe 2 eras back.. and he reported only now as he saw that i did 10k nazzies.. fuked faggot | ||||
17:50:33 Jul 22nd 08 - Pirate Lewatha:
that doesn't take away that for everyone NOT in elements that it'd be a very likely answer to the 10K naz, certainly for me, since I saw the feeding first hand last era. | ||||
17:51:16 Jul 22nd 08 - Pirate Lewatha:
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17:52:40 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great:
Train with 2 accounts and be fed is his guide | ||||
17:53:46 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin:
pm me ingame ill tell you the secret ;) its quite simple ;) | ||||
| 17:54:41 Jul 22nd 08 - Pirate Lewatha: The "secret" has been around for ages... it's land-dropping... | ||||
17:56:37 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin:
as you are a nub u never would get that amount in full era ;) sci was even amazed of this tactics simplicity that i made.. more like for this 10k nazzie armie i made i should thank Fordius for tactics ... i think even binh used this tactic | ||||
| 17:57:08 Jul 22nd 08 - Duke Argyle: Even I know the tactic Penguin used, it's an old tactic used by many players. | ||||
| 17:57:32 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great: Land-Dropping Arnt you a smart boy? | ||||
| 17:57:33 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: btw if i would been fed so it wouldnt be 10k nazzies it would have been 50k atleast ;) | ||||
18:02:30 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin:
lol at you ;) nubzor | ||||
| 18:04:52 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Evans: I do love a good pissing contest xD | ||||
| 18:05:44 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: bring back dorian empire and santa claus !!! | ||||
| 18:07:13 Jul 22nd 08 - Duke Camulus: I don't know the full details, but lets look at the math. You say 10k Naz right? 10k Naz costs 85 million at full discount. With an income of at least 1.4 million you could easily achieve that much gold in 60 ticks and that's not counting food, tree, slave, and stone sales. Then simply raze everything but your main armory, have enough pez there and it's done. You have 10k Naz. | ||||
| 18:07:51 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: carbon leave lew alone.. she didnt do anything.. she doesnt deserve that u should be talking to her like that.. she didnt do anything .. ;) | ||||
| 18:10:47 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: thanks faf :D next time dont edit ;D lol | ||||
| 18:10:47 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Ingo Von Lucker: Wheres the problem in ppl having one account on each world (except that they definately have no life!)?. This doesnt hurt anyone and they even vote one more time .. yay | ||||
| 18:11:33 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: because fags like osi doesnt understand how to make 10k nazzies and as they are pussy they report everyone | ||||
18:11:51 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great:
Oh go learn to fly or better yet make another account unless you have another already | ||||
| 18:12:55 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: go away you kuksugare ;) | ||||
| 18:13:27 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great: Que te jodes marica de mierda Lets speak in different languages? | ||||
18:13:50 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Evans:
TOO DAMN RIGHT!! DE owned, not under my leadership but it did under santas! | ||||
| 18:14:26 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: yes 26 era fantasia :D santa the leader :D | ||||
18:15:28 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin:
issitrauk bybi is burnos kai kalbi su manim mause ;) | ||||
| 18:33:08 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Samulis: there is only one thing I dont like about osiris: the fact that he deleted many replies to the guides. If he kept those, I would be with him. quid est? cur tu non vocat latine? | ||||
| 18:43:14 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: lol | ||||
| 18:46:49 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Carbon: Ok Water, since you said so, I will not talk down to Lewatha :P But I do have to respectfully disagree with this statement of hers: "I could also just have told everyone the real identities of the elements but I didn't because I had respect for the most of you." Lewatha, if you had done something like that (reveal the identities), that action would have been quite a revelation on your character :) Anyway, back to the topic at hand. One more time, if Water was caught in a multi sweep and was deleted for that, it would have been a none issue, because he was caught fairly. However, the originating circumstances behind Water's deletion is that Osiris and Retribution suspected Water was feeding, and thus wanted to find a way to get rid of him. The open secret that Water multied on 2 worlds was the perfect tool for Osiris and Retribution to use to get Zeta to delete Water. And if that wasn't enough, Osiris decided to pile pressure on Zeta by reverse blackmail (using his position as moderator - it didn't matter whether he was a new moderator or not... the fact is that as a new moderator, he had immediately abused his position). All the evidence is clearly in the chat I posted, which Lewatha has not denied. Thus, this calls in several key issues vital to the perceived fairness and security of the VU players. Firstly, if Osiris or any other moderator finds a player a threat to himself or his kingdom (or if they just hate that player), wouldn't they be able to exert pressure onto Zeta to delete the player? Secondly, doesn't it show that Zeta is susceptible to influence and strong arming from influential players like Osiris? Wouldn't these influential players (one of them even strengthened by his moderator position) have a second avenue to get rid of an opposing player if they are unable to deal with him on the field of battle in the game itself? Thus, you can see why I take such umbrage with this matter. A blatant abuse of power by Osiris that does not go unpunished would be a travesty of justice. He deserves nothing less than deletion himself for such abuse of power and breach of trust. I fear that if Zeta does not ensure that fair justice is given, I would lose more of my kingdomates who will quit in disgust at his inaction. Elements has already lost Earth... it cannot lose more. | ||||
18:53:10 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great:
So even your admiting hes a Multi... | ||||
| 18:55:36 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: yes everyone knows im water... you are such a nub :D lol | ||||
| 18:57:34 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great: Then why are we argueing? Dont Multi, You wont get deleted Its too simple, even simple for you Penguin | ||||
| 18:58:17 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: u sir are a *beep* ;) | ||||
| 18:58:48 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great: You sir are a twat Your flames are getting worse, I wouldnt even call them a flame | ||||
18:58:57 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Carbon:
I admit that this is the undeniable, god given, uncontradictable, universal TRUTH!!! Come and receive the truth, my brother! And you will be delivered from the depths of nubiness that you are currently mired in. | ||||
| 19:00:42 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: | ||||
| 19:00:58 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great: Carbon - Look, this has nothing to do with you, you come here acting the big man without the info | ||||
| 19:02:29 Jul 22nd 08 - Sir Gonzo The Great: Penguin - When all else fails call someone a name in a different language, you have failed | ||||
| 19:04:39 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: look as$hole www.visual-utopia.com/deletions.txt... in long time im the only one deleted for multiple accounts.. and i got deleted because osi is full of *beep* fag. hes lame player .. he calls himself a good player vet 30 eras. i know he is mod but he used his powers to say to zeta to ban me.. as in he was afraid of those 10k nazzies... he thought that elements fed me... | ||||
| 19:05:17 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Carbon: Well, that is your assumption Gonzo :) And if it is true that I did not know Water was playing an account in 2 worlds, at least, I am still in a stronger moral position than Osiris, who knew Water was a multi since the beginning of the era, did nothing about it, then when he saw Water was coming out with 10 K nazzies, decided to get rid of Water by strong arming Zeta. Nice moral position Osiris and Retribution have there :) | ||||
| 19:06:27 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Atreides: I don't get it...are you angry that you got caught or reported or what? Cause all I'm getting is "I know I cheated, but it's not fair that I got deleted because someone reported me! They must have reported me because I was a threat to them. That's why I shouldn't have been deleted...it's obvious misuse of power!" | ||||
| 19:08:05 Jul 22nd 08 - Dark Lord Osiris: seems im going to have to reply to you people seriously...
We saw the chat between Water and you. Osiris wanted Water deleted because he suspected Water was being fed. Osiris made a threat to Zeta that he will quit his moderator post if Water was not deleted.
1. i never ever mentioned feeding at all to anyone ever, saying an army could be fed in a pm to a kd member does not mean i demanded his deletion for feeding or i would quit.
I asked zeta if he was going to do multi sweeps. he has bigger armies? well so what i didnt say anything about feeding or know anything about his armies before asking zeta to do a multi sweep.
AND FFS I NEVER EVER THREATEND ZETA WITH ANYTHING | ||||
| 19:12:25 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Gravity: I agree with Carbon. The deletion was just, yes, but in the light it was done, it was not. Its like cheating at a boardgame. It never works, on either side. | ||||
| 19:14:06 Jul 22nd 08 - Dark Lord Osiris: actually i did report it at first knowledge | ||||
| 19:15:28 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Penguin: Carnbon I had no idea water was penguin untill he told me.
i didnt told to u i was water ;) u saw hoh ;) | ||||
19:16:24 Jul 22nd 08 - Mr. Carbon:
Osiris, drive this chat through your own damn skull :) You were implicated lock stock and two smoking barrels in it. LOL!!! | ||||
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