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Quietone...you are a bit Legacy-centric here. Apparently for you the only wars worth fighting are against Legacy or they are not valuable wars.

Well, beyond the fact that we warred you guys...but we even warred FF and Mirror this era. So, I am not sure if what you say makes any sense at all!

Beyond that, I myself congratulate all other KDs that did well this era. I dont have any issue with that.

And I even wanna say.. good job Legacy. You guys fought many wars. Only reason for which you did not win this is that you actually fought too many wars at once. Game is getting a bit more equilibrated?

Maybe, but good job in your action to get at least a couple of strong allies for next era:)...and in diverging the attention of all VUs towards us:)...I bet you will win. Good luck.

P.s.: Legacy vs The Monks in the current conditions of expereince and activity....it is an easy victory for Legacy...nobody questions this. What I question is the arrogance of some of your players in not recognizing who wins the ranks (whenever it is not one of you!) and the fact that the same people taken one vs one (single rulers) are JUST average people that can be beaten. - and still....they are convinced to be semi-gods at this game and to have the power of judging who is teh winner for all the VU community. 

"You become a winning kingdom win you fight the wars and win against your enemies the top spot is only extra"

...thats what she is saying...and I reply that we won our top spot defeating Mirror and the nfighting Legacy. Pretty straightforward....I would guess?

I have humility. Please consider who are your HoH folks whne you say: "all their economies that we gained that were spread across the north of the map -- that contributed to our score and size massively".

If thats is the case...how come your HoH folks are all dwarves that more than one person indicated as great explorers (Dvmasta being one of them...and I am not the one that said that in the Class of Virgin thread)? So I am humble, I am just asking you to be rationale when you say who whorred whole era.

Well,

That's not so true for the follwoing reasons:

1- "..warring us all era"...never said All era.

2- Draiken, you, Dvmasta, Cobra, Frederick, Roxbury, Leon, Elsin all of you had armies around that area (and a lot of them were HOH)....that makes more than the 4 if you that you are claiming...

3- I agree with the not big effectivenss of our atatck. But heh...we are not as active and as experienced as you guys...still...we managed to keep you at bay...or am I wrong?

You can say whatever you want, but you guys did not manage to push towards south at all. Your armies were big and our activity level went dramatically down lately (with 3 of our major attackers out of the picture suddenly)...............so I guess we moved around our armies still good enough to prevent you from doing any push outside that area....for me good enough to be happy....given the conditions on the field. 

I love how you speak as if you were the only kd we were warring Fra.. comparing your moves to ours is hardly justification of anything as we were fighting the entire map-- you said yourself there is no competition between our kds and who would win so why keep referring to that?  Please keep running your mouth about things.... funny part is we were fighting the entire map and still got closer to your core than you ever got to ours. 

bla bla bla.....fra please, the difference between your dwarfs and lgc's is this.......they have been fighting all era, unlike your dwarves which have sat back for awhile built up nice large econs, then maybe attacked the odd guy now an then, you know that whole thing with mirror i guess you kind of had to....then you whored some more, about a week and a half behind us in the war with lgc i mean what were you doing in that time....if you didnt wanna rush an attack against lgc why didn't you go for someone else....but no you didn't you sat there allowing abydos to fight lgc alone for a week and a half.....i know we had no alliance or any crap like that, but ppl are pissed because you did nothing

Oya, I really dont understand what you are pissed off of. As you said, we did not have any alliance, we did not agree on anything on legacy and you guys decided to attack them independently (I realized you were warring them just after I saw your thread).

Sooo....what do you want? I think you should know that if you war a strong Kd your ranks would suffer. It was your decision and a thought decision...so pissed off for what???. Yo udecided not to go for ranks..thats it....dont have to blame us for the result.

Honestly, I can understand Legacy is a bit sour as they were about to win this era....but heh...none of your guys were in the top 10 when we casted arma....so your are talking non-sense here.  And just for the history, as you already know the idea to cast Arma was suggested by one of your guys before we even thought about it....so please refrain this non-sense.......it smells just like a nice justification of your possible nap with Legacy next era....:)

...something i would advice....you too. Strategically might make sense.

And Legacys....you are doing a great job to mix cards for next era:)..in fact I have to recognize you are doing well here:). Congrats for that....I am afraid for us it will work...but at least we are demonstarting that Legacy alone cannot win Anymore....you too guys need allies:)....and next era will show it.

"Honestly, I can understand Legacy is a bit sour as they were about to win this era....but heh...none of your guys were in the top 10 when we casted arma....so your are talking non-sense here."

The reason Oya and others are pissed at you is because this era Baccus demonstrated (almost perfectly) exactly how this game should not be played...

They are not annoyed simply because Baccus took the top spot and they didn't. It 's the way you took it that pisses people off. While the other top 4 kingdoms were making a concious effort to take down their competitors (This era happened to be all Legacy), Baccus rushed Mirror, whored for the rest of the era and cast arma when their man reached #1

If you can't see how that's a kick in the teeth for every warring kingdom out there, it's probably not worth replying anymore...

i think the current system, the winner of the era is the one on top when arma is casted, is not good enough to show the VU community that you've won.

we can debate and argue as long as we want who the hell is the true era winner because we have different views about it. BUT the current system has its own means and for this era its Baccus turn.

for me, to be able to win you must defeat, nuetralize or maybe allied the strongest kingdom that can dominate fantasia and fight in all fronts while maintaining their ranks, this is the legacy kd in any form they become, guys. legacy is not only a part of VU community but also of VU history. they have the reason to argue with the celebrating monks. anyway, they can only argue.

baccus got the arma control, end of story, maybe next time use the arma block thing.or influence VU about the need to change the current system.

just my opinion. :)

Part I

*cough cough*

I am not the one who likes to speak, not because of my bad language, more because of the conflicts which happens during communication between persons, especially in a foraign language.

But somehow I feel forced to say something about this "whoring" thing.
When I read my dictonarry right, people call me a whore, street-guy, not very kind.
And I don't care if every1 uses this word for something else or want to explain something different.
This word is disrespect pure, a personal insult. Use another word if you mean something else!!!

But if you have something personal against me, meet me in RL, I am fine with that and have nothing to hide. I am used to that better then this sensless stupid flaming in forums where every1 hides behind his hidden identity, every ***** ***** ***** ***** can say tough words here, unworthy to read.
If you have something to say me, PM and we can maybe arrange a RL meeting, then we can "discuss", or whatever we feel to do *eg*!!!!!

Part III
But let's chance topic.

Era ends soon and next era will begin soon after.
If I will win this era, I will not be proud of this, because I know at least one player who deserved it more then me (not that I played bad). Not every game ends with the win for the best one, often fortune shines on some1 else. I am playing online games for 7 years and it's not first time that I win by "lucky" circumstances. But on the other side I also lost rank 1, sacrificing my rank for my team, who won in the end then. This happens from time to time, so I am not that proud ending first rank, knowing some1 else deserved it more, e.g. Khan Sonka who was ranked abouve me when he left because of RL issues. In my oppinion he is the one who deserved this single spot most (not only because of the ranking, because he was the most warlike and effective player (together with Fra) in our kingdom!!!!

Sheesh Crissxcross, so much emotions!

 Crisscross just debunked your argument Fra, he himself admitted to whoring.

Crisscross, when we use the word whoring, it is not the derogatory meaning you think, its another way to say farmer. As for you threatening people online, man get real. Only people that call you out for a face to face over the internet are the weak ass little biatch punk losers who couldn't fight there way out of a wet paper bag.

So grow a sac and go find someone walking down the street to take your anger out on, and take pics so we can laugh as he kicks your ass, lol.

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now I have talked as much meaningfull like you Mr. Half Baked, I only didn't wasted the same among of bytes for it, but I am sure I can handle this too, moment,

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add: omg I can't believe I reduced myslef to this one....

Half....you dont kniw what you are talking about. You are getting a buit too stressed.

Phi, Abydos, Carnage, Mad, Mirror, Only you and I would include IE, PKS and Legacy and whoever else....have the potential to deafeat us.

The problem is that given the fact that all of you...Legacies hide against your powerful KD banner instead of fighting as you claim, if more than 2 of them fight us, you guys win easy the game:). Your attempt of turning them aggainst us is a good one as i said:)....and given the answers we are getting in this thread...you might be able to convince at least a couple of them.

...but 2 facts remain: In the last 3 eras our Kd did well and in the future Legacy will need allies to win....if things stay like this.

The time of Legacy taking over the world alone is not anymore.

Naa...Hungrier. You dont convince me.

As CrissCross said...it was a team effort his win. So instead of having a "congratulation crissCross" as it has always happened in VU, we had a KD celebration thread. Additionally, the celebration is for our 3-era achievements.

And I agree....Legacy is a much stronger KD. That does not prevent us from celebrate...you know? The reason is that a new KD composed by pure Nubs (if I look at our experience in VU on the average we are 1/5 of your members history).....a KD that had a not even comparable level of activity to yours.....well....it was able to stand against you for not just this era.

Next era....well, you guys are free to walk over us:)....in a big alliance if you wish....or if you think is fun. It seems you guys always need somebody to critisize whenever they beat you up.I rememeber you did with Serenity, you did with Nt, you did with theVendettas driven KDs and now you are doing with us.:).

That's not an issue for me....it's the game. People wanna win.....and when they are not able...they become mad....even more mad if they have the strongest potential (like Legacy has).

So... "speak" next era on the field...instead of continuing this non-sense bashing with your words.

Bragging I'll admitt is bad but "whoreding" is incorrect it's hoarding. Some of our players built up our economy in the beggining so we could have large armies in the end. I know a lot of players who hoard up resources for the end to attack people latter on. A lot of people have done it so you can't really complain to us about it.

I don't neccesairily agree that we actually "won" but we aren't the worst kingdom out there. If you want to talk about bragging go talk to ex Zeon players and their religious zealous. Sure we won but not in a way that you like. But next time some does this we should be a little less insulting about it. Besides no one should really get pissed of about a game. I probably yelled at someone this era so I will say I'm sorry about that.

Can we get over this? It's just a game.

Fra....stop the bul*beep*! please! you really have no clue what your talking about when it comes to lgc. You didn't fight them one on one....hell non of us did this era, stop making yourselves out to be some sort of victim, you a far from it......don't make stupid little threads about how great you are and then make out lgc is arrogant, you know how hypocritical you guys sounds, its kinda sad.....you need to stop this crap and wait for next era to show us whether you deserve this so called celebration

Alright, if you all are so great, awesome, etc. Then line up against any warring kd out there in the beginning of the next era. Take your pick, you know it's about any kd out there in Fant besides you all. Then start slugging it out, if you happen to come out on top. Great, you'll have earned props from everyone and we'll pat your back for you instead of starting your own back-patting threads.

Due to the last rounds of easy cop-out 'victories', it's my opinion that the VU community's getting a little sick of it. Now, this era's was going great, enough warring and bloodshed to sate even Legacy's appetite. Then some sneaks and whores come in and try to claim victory. Well, nice, we'll have an ugly era name next round but what happens next monks? Are you going to disband V-style? Or will you all at least come out and take your next era's beating like men (or women if any are in there). I'd have more respect for you all if you even went down fighting than claiming a 'win' by these means.

I've got loads of respect for PHI for their actions this era, it was good fighting on both sides and made the game fun. I've got respect for Abydos for all the fighting we've had, though I'll admit I lost interest in warring after arma was cast again. :-P Heck, I'll even give Only U a bit more respect despite their sneakiness in their backstab operation. Yeah it was dirty, but they fought.

Good luck next era, you all will need it.

Naa...you guys need a brain check:). Apparently HoH is very important to yo uall. If thats the case...you did not get the win this era...sorry:).

I stated that Legacy can win over us no problem....so not sure what you guys want. 

About the disbanding:)..it is funny to be accused by this when legacy itself disbanded after it got beated soundly a few eras ago:)....who was it? NT? Serenity?

And by the way....Abydos defending LEgacy...it is really funny:).

Fra bigger and better people than you have made attempts to make Legacy look bad when they themselves are on the firing line.   Your petty little snide comments avoiding the actual debate ongoing in this thread is clear to all who are reading it.  There are several kds posting in here yet you keep coming back to Legacy- where your insults do little good.   You speak about as well as you war in this game and you need practice at both.   The reason you feel attacked in this thread is because the rest of VU understand the concept and ideals of this game and put more satisfaction in the real win and not stealing the top spot.  As it's been said before any other kd on the map can whore to top spot and cast arma- hell Legacy could have done it well before you casted while we had the top spot.....and everyone on the map knows it- they also know why we did not.  

Your petty attempts to underrate the comments arent doing any good you should stop while you can...or better yet...by all means dont :P

I'll make one more point. Fra, you have your 'dream team' correct? Please tell me then, who is the #1 kingdom on the hoh board. A one-word answer will suffice, no fluff or other explainations will be required.

mine probably :D

I'm lovin' the drama here guys,keep it up my cable is out =]

takes a while for big armies to get from southern corner of the map to the middle of the map again ;) and to set up defenses.. maybe thats why?