I give you the bird...

my deals better i give y u 2 fingers

i dont see the pun..... and what would happen if you take the blue and red pill at once? 0_o think about that for a bit.....

... you are recruiting from my members now?  harsh XD lol

Phoenix, we didn't recruit, they came to us =p Ask them why if you wanna know. And yeah Willem, we can dodge all and our troops don't use their weapons, they just use uber cyber-fu to techno sound tracks. Better watch out lol

Agent Smith 1.0 was like 3-4 guys and this era we started small at first as well. I really don't know where in the world you get this idea that we want a lot of people. Recruiting 90% of mant would be shooting ourselves in the foot for all the time it would take to teach people how to play and defending them. I know mant is a little higher on the skill level now than it was in eras past but still. Why don't you try finding out anything at all about us and then make fun of those things, rather than just make something up and *beep* on us for it? Thanks, now blow.

first u need to get ur info straight  Agent smith recruited no one we asked them if we can join them and they said yes so whats ur prob ?

Thanks for the very respectful answer Clamps... guess it was to be expected?

Now, there's two options:
A) You guys did recruit our members
or
B) 4 of our guys decided to join you(and 2 did, other 2 are still thinking), but are all telling me that they got invited by your kingdom

After what's happened, I'd even believe in option B. But then again, 4 out of 4? Kind of low chances for it happening....


It's kind of depressing to see your "children"(I recruited them... taught them...) turn against you, and join your enemy.
I'd say that it's the worst thing a player can do. Join the enemy kingdom and attack you from the inside...

Likely I'm bound to die on mantrax because of my own naiveness, or other's selfishness, pity, innit?

You got back the tone you delivered Morning. As for your "children", why not try coming to aid them next time they fight an entire kd themselves, rather than abandon them to hide in your blocker. Clearly they weren't having a good experience with your kd. It's true a player might be better off serving till an era's end before changing kd's but it's kind of different for someone who's new and doesn't know exactly how to find a kd that works for them.

As for kd honour, well, there is no such thing. Every member of every kd has their own honour to uphold. Everyone in Agent is an individual in that sense. So, if you want to blame Ben then you are blaming a new player for trying to find a kd that is going to make the game enjoyable to him, and if you want to blame the person who accepted him you are blaming them for trying to make the game more enjoyable for a new player. We don't care how powerful our kd LOOKS, we just want to play.

ps- who said we were the best? We didn't and everyone knows hoh is nonsense. We know who we are.

They were the only people in our core who held out actually. Except for Ms. Monday who I have to say I regret teasing her on the forums one time,because she turned out to be a very talented player.
But you're right (despite the sarcasm) that it was a delightful coincidence. If other players had messaged us maybe they would have joined us but we had a core that needed to be cleared out and we had what was essentially a new kd. That means that everyone in the core joins or is fought. This is what mant is all about, if this all went down between established kd's on fant I could see it being a bigger deal but people are still learning where to fit in here.

We had a strategic reason to "hide on our blocker" sir mr agent and the reason is prob obvious to most ppl close to the situation, as we tried to explain to our dear kd members. if we were to send the troops hiding in the bunker, then the hoh army in the armory two ticks away would burn the blocker, thus leaving our core in the beepers and that was a risk (fact) i wasnt willing to take (see). which i find obvious.

And some people don't feel like sacrificing themselves for a kd of people they've worked with for all of one week. It isn't like your own mothers stabbed you in the back guys.

Look I know I'm coming off like a: I don't give a damn and b: that everyone was acting as the utmost examples of honour but I don't mean to be that way. Know that a: I feel bad to know that you guys got jipped at a time of need and that would be stressful; but, obviously the people involved weren't working out with you guys (I haven't even met them all yet). And b: yeah it would be nice if everyone finished at a minimum the era they agreed to and that no kd would "harbor" these villainous dogs =p who move around; but, it is mant and people shuffle around on the non-fant servers until they find a group they work with well. I recommend that you guys continue to recruit so that you don't suffer a net-loss of manpower and I wish you well because it has been fun warring you and the dacii.

agents, remember the phi - carnage situation last era?
I know a few of you come from phi, I come from carnage.
When we took in Ptah, we got flamed on taking in a deserter/spy...

but now, you take in not one, but two guys of the ENEMY kingdom?
That's pretty bad...

as for the "best", I said it, since I know a few of you and I know you can play well (I tihnk lenard can teach just about anyone to play good..)
but that's only farmingwise... honorwise, I'd say you're one of the worst kingdoms on mantrax...

They asked to join us not the other way around...no one in Agent "recruited" them. You guys abandoned them by not sending help, I can't help but say I'd feel the same way if I were them. Their situation was not unsalvageable.

Ptah's situation is not comparable. He left his KD and started burning their towns with no warning. Monday, Ben, Bearclaw didn't do that to you.

Mr. Heimdall

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12/19/2007 4:06:36 AMWe had a strategic reason to "hide on our blocker" sir mr agent and the reason is prob obvious to most ppl close to the situation, as we tried to explain to our dear kd members. if we were to send the troops hiding in the bunker, then the hoh army in the armory two ticks away would burn the blocker, thus leaving our core in the beepers and that was a risk (fact) i wasnt willing to take (see). which i find obvious.

phoenix had a scout near us and every time i sent him a message telling him to set up an armory he tells me that it costs him 600k to drop a city  , but thats not a good reason when i built rule i saved all the days income to build it and all of that was for the sake of RP

I do respect them but they were outnumbered; skill only goes so far when it's 10-1 against them. Agent have more respect for them than your leader does, I'd say, who calls them his children and expects to be owed something as a father. I would have been much more insulted at that comment.

I seem to have a different opinion on this matter.

What I would do in this situation is to fight till the end even if I die, then applies to the kingdom after showing honour and courage. Again, its just me and what I would do :p

@johnson, finally alive? will you ever reply to my ingame messages or on ms*beep*r>Ptah's situation is comparable... according to him he was attacked first and just retaliated. Nobody in our kingdom announced nor complained anyhow before leaving the kingdom, and Zorkohana and Ben have armories in our core, as well as a few armies.

@clamps - Zorkohana,Ben were nowhere in your core. They just started taking cities there.
Ask just anyone (of course not in your kingdom.......) on what they think of a kingdom that recruits(Ms. Monday was invited to join Smiths AFTER she joined RP) members out of an enemy kingdom. I'm pretty sure everyone will tell you that you're not the most honorable and "fair" kingdom, to say the least.
DUnno why, but everytime I started a kingdom myself(what, 2-3 times?) I only had ONE player leave my kingdom during the era... of course I never fought against slimy agents.


As for the players leaving RP, they just disappoint me and I blame myself for thinking of them as loyal good players.
I guess fighting against great odds is not their kind of play... Pity, I like it. But I prefer when it's fairplay, you know, much more fun.

i killed him simply because he didn't merge into my army in time. activity is key!

First off, monday should have said that her former kd mate who was now a member of agent invited her, it wasn't our leadership. Second as far as WE KNEW, they were in our core essentially. We thought they were independents who had been recruited by you guys, nothing indicated otherwise (like why else would they be so far from home right?). As for what everyone else would say, I'll find out when they say it, but apparently the only ones who care are you and me. Lastly, I don't know anything about this blackmail thing but that is scary *beep*e. I'm pretty curious about that one (mostly because it's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while) So I'm going to find out about what went down there.

i know im a little behind here but in response to bens messages to me and me saying i cant afford to. i dont make that much over night!! and with everyone asking including you ben for more troops it makes it a little difficult for me to save up to 600k now it would be possible if i were not to spend a dime for around 13hrs but right now im working on military seeing as we are having more and more of you guys leaving us. the total of traitors are now 4. this is odd to me because most of your economy is WITHIN MY CORE not inside smith core. bearclaw had the most to lose in smith core because bearclaw never built in the core.

how am i a traitor if i left a kd that doesnt suit me and joined another kd ?

Mr Ben wrote: "how am i a traitor if i left a kd that doesnt suit me and joined another kd?"

Because if that sort of thing was done too often by too many people, it would be very destructive of the kingdom system on which the game depends. I think XelNaga put it best when he wrote:

"What I would do in this situation is to fight till the end even if I die, then applies to the kingdom after showing honour and courage."

Ms. Monaday earlier asked if she could join Agent and she couldn't now agent accepts her....why?

@Ben : Still don't undertand the reason why you wanted to war us....
Agent is a stronger kd!

"(like why else would they be so far from home right?)"
uh... armies > move > take cities...
i tihnk that sort of explains it... >_>

@ben - life is not all jazz and joy... there's hardships, just like in this game. Surely joining the smiths is a simple way to survive...
guess your saying is "if you can't defeat them, join them"
also do you realize that if we fought the dacii, the smiths would have been in our core now?(i mean AGENTS, not traitors)...
and let me ask you, did you help the kingdom to improve? to work more as a team? can't find too many posts by you...