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| 13:12:35 Apr 9th 23 - Lord Caedus: Bigfield, you know full well that you’re farmed up and hunkered down and it’ll take longer to defeat you. If you care that much, order your guys to release troops and end the era with alba on top - you seem to want to avoid the fight anyway. In regards to players thst want the era to end: - of course you guys do, it’ll mean a win without doing much. - whisper may want the era to end but after the precedent they set last era, they surely respect our right to fight for the final win. - pesti have been defeated on two fronts. They have no stake left unless they rebuild. I suspect that you won’t deconstruct and that this is truly about you wanting to farm a win. You talk about farming as a viable mechanic and that it should be accepted, well so too is destroying an arma city and prolonging an era in order to fully win a war. You can’t have it both ways, calling for us to respect your ‘win’ and then cry when we choose otherwise. As I said, this isn’t about saving the game. That said, feel free to get off your high horse and concede if I’m wrong (which I doubt I am). | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 14:02:48 Apr 9th 23 - King Perilous: Yeah but there's seven who were too quick to vote no Lord Jellybean: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 16:01:47 Apr 10th 23 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Mercenary): What is farming? other than safely building up resources while hiding behind a bunch of other players. So basically anyone in a kingdom of greater than 4 is farming. If you have no concerns over your citys safety because a whole gang of people are there protecting it then arnt you farming? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 17:09:16 Apr 10th 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Big Field): I've never pretended to be a War Lord in this game. Everyone farms. It is part of the game. The strategy lies in determining when it makes more sense to continue farming versus disrupting your opponents farming.
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13:25:48 Apr 12th 23 - Mr. Napoleon The First Imperor:Bigfield: Very True. My starting army is "camping" half of the era & still going on. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 10:28:03 Apr 18th 23 - King Perilous: Not content to outnumber us 2:1, the core camper, Karmatic, answers the call to his overlord and steps up to the plate. 04:12:23 - Mr. Gem Candlelight attempted to cast a spell upon us. 03:34:51 - Mr. Gem Candlelight attempted to cast a spell upon us. 03:33:18 - Mr. Gem Candlelight attempted to cast a spell upon us. 03:33:13 - Mr. Gem Candlelight attempted to cast a spell upon us. 03:19:18 - Mr. Karmatic attempted to cast a spell upon us. 03:17:15 - Honorable won a battle against Chaos Guard from Mr. Chaos III. We lost 1 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 11302 Axemen, 8217 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters and 0 peasants in the battle and 25875 of our soldiers got injured. 02:58:34 - Mages have caused the morale in the Honorable army to drop! 02:58:31 - Mr. Karmatic attempted to cast a spell upon us. 02:58:28 - Mr. Karmatic attempted to cast a spell upon us. 02:58:07 - Mages have caused the morale in the Honorable army to drop! 02:58:02 - Mr. Karmatic attempted to cast a spell upon us. 02:57:59 - Mr. Karmatic attempted to cast a spell upon us. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 12:31:43 Apr 18th 23 - Lord Jellybean (Mr. Karmatic): If you want the win, fight for it :) Why should you win by default, seems unfair to me.. Always with Alba doesn't matter, who cares, it's Alba.. Being the underdog is way better anyway ^_^ lol I'll help them if I want to | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 17:19:35 Apr 18th 23 - Nayoke the Kid (Mr. Nayoke Forest Dweller): complaining about not having a fair fight after farming all era... and technically it's 4 v 1 if you count whisper | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 18:22:18 Apr 18th 23 - Lord Caedus: HnS will always be the same old HnS. Honestly, if it had been an unusual era for HnS (I.E. hadn’t farmed and then expected to swoop in at the end) and some legitimate discussion had occurred around era ending and arma - without any of the self righteousness - I’d have negotiated. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 18:25:25 Apr 18th 23 - King Perilous: You guys are marching armies away from us when it takes literal days to reach us. It's dragging out the era. Bigfield already said he'd drop his swords if you cast Armageddon. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
20:28:23 Apr 18th 23 - Mr. Gem Candlelight:King Perilous: Perilous what are you complaining for exactly? You’ve been farming for the whole era and you arrived to our borders with a bunch of axes and insufficient mages. You were lucky I couldn’t burn you alive, I would thank the Dice Gods if I were you instead of complaining. Said so, this is how the story ended: VICTORY! Mr. Gem Candlelight. We have returned full command over Sevenup to Lord Water Bender. We killed all of the 75927 troops. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 21:12:49 Apr 18th 23 - Nayoke the Kid (Mr. Nayoke Hairyfeet): Pretty sure alba is also fighting the merc group as well so they dont end up getting back stabbed once their armies are on your doorstep.. I could be wrong but it seems that way to me | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 23:39:15 Apr 18th 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Big Field): I don't think he was complaining, but maybe pointing out that you weren't fighting the whole map like you had claimed? Just a thought. It's whatever. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 00:10:52 Apr 19th 23 - King BurningLegion (Mr. Burninglegion The Rancor Mage): 15:12:49 Apr 18th 23 - Nayoke the Kid (Mr. Nayoke Hairyfeet): Pretty sure alba is also fighting the merc group as well so they dont end up getting back stabbed once their armies are on your doorstep.. I could be wrong but it seems that way to me\\ They are fighting us and winning but its not because fear of back stab, they launched a pre-emptive to secure the era victory. Not exactly what I was aiming for this era but it was a good fight. Our 3rd being a mutineer certainly cut us at our ankles but it was still some late era excitement | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 11:56:45 Apr 19th 23 - King Perilous: Lol how would you play in a kingdom of four active players? You build up while you can and then you fight the horde. I don't understand if you guys are bragging about taking on a kingdom half your size with extra magic support from outside your kingdom or somehow complaining about a kingdom half your size playing defensively. We put in the time when we can and live our lives and tend to our families. And we rank when we are able. Impressive 16 battles and captures of undefended cities by the way.
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| 12:48:07 Apr 19th 23 - Lord Caedus: As said previously, you do you babes. Just don't get your knickers in a twist when someone else doesn't accept your narrative of events and chooses an alternative path. <3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 16:28:02 Apr 19th 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Big Field): I really don't understand any beef here. Only grief I had was wanting the era over a week ago. I posted an offer on the discord and thought it had been communicated that I would agree to drop troops to allow Albatross the win if they would cast Arma. My persistent desire is that the era end as there is perhaps five or six players in union on my end with no way around the numerical advantage. It perhaps would have been possible had I not played so lazily as to not even know a fifth player had dropped a single city in our core that I thought had been innactive as she only logged in three times all era. I'm not really sure how I could have remedied it. Had I kicked her she was under the land threshold to be attacked by us so it would have been a 200 million gold plunder to another kingdom anyway. After the plunder the power shifted from 115% / 100% to 160% /100% in a day and a half without any armies or cities lost. It was at that point insurmountable for the 5 or so of us to persist against Pestilence and Whisper and Albatross. Basic math. If you are committed to a total victory then I'll play the good sport and put up a fight, but it will take some time. So again, I reiterate that I am willing to shave off the real life days of travel that would | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
17:30:16 Apr 19th 23 - HorusPanic (Sir Horus al):
this is enough yo, lets run it back | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 18:12:28 Apr 19th 23 - Lord Jellybean (Mr. Karmatic): "I really don't understand any beef here." You understand why Alba wanted to continue fighting though?? Kind of on reflection, it's okay to admit the war was fair for Alba to expect and not to accept a loss of era automatically?? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 18:30:05 Apr 19th 23 - King Perilous: Who were they supposed to fight? There is no coalition against them. In fact it appears they are benefiting from Whisper prioritizing Pestilence. It's almost a pure free for all era. There were at best six players on HnS side. Four plus one from Mercs and a Maybe. That's 6 players versus nearly three times as many. It's a matter of math. Why do you see Albatross losing the era back then? Your coalition of players outnumbered ours and I don't think our side saw an outcome of anything else as possible after the . 2 billion gold pillage. Mechanically it's hard to get rid of an innactive city from a player that does log once in a blue moon on Valhalla. The writing was on the wall days ago and Bigfield said as such. If it's about the top spot Bigfield already said he'd release troops to let Alba have it. What's left to prove? Outnumbered and overpowered by a factor of two and already having conceded. You guys are literally sidelining the community on one of the four last servers of this game for the sake of some kind of cyber ego? This is the part of the era that leads to attrition of the player base. Your coalition obviously won. What's left it prove, and at what cost? Lord Jellybean: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 18:35:29 Apr 19th 23 - Lord Jellybean (Mr. Karmatic): "If it's about the top spot Bigfield already said he'd release troops to let Alba have it." I can't speak on whether Alba will accept this or want to fight on principle now. But this wasn't what was happening, originally ARMA was being cast (multiple times) and HnS + Whsiper + Pest were trying to force it through without conceding to Alba or giving them a chance to fight (instant era end if enough vote YES). People simply didn't care if Alba had a chance to win or not, it didn't matter to them. In fact, Alba originally asked for top spot to avoid long war if that's what people wanted. HnS never appeared to be willing to concede until defeat appeared more obvious.. hence, you know.. the war. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
19:29:11 Apr 19th 23 - Mr. Gem Candlelight:King Perilous: Lol man, I did not claim anything and I didn’t want to start any flaming. Karma is a friend and allied to Alba as long as he’s willing to. You don’t have any friendly and collaborative relation? Mind your PR not ours. Last but not least the cities I took were mostly undefeated because in the war with Pestilence and Whisper (yep, war with two kd at the same time) I used to teleport them and then attack. I think it’s quite expensive but still effective in the right conditions. Peace and love | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 18:35:41 Apr 21st 23 - King Perilous: Who are the ones who wanted to continue? Armageddon has been cast in your world! Currently 12 people want the age to end, 3 do not, and 15 people have not voted. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 05:29:43 Apr 22nd 23 - Lord Caedus: Mercenaries- Burninglegion even launched an army called ‘fail’. Maybe a few of the untagged, a few new have appeared in recent days - I suspect to troll. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 15:32:19 Apr 22nd 23 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Mercenary): Caaedus how long have you had your CDL? I have no such army and I voted yes
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| 22:59:49 Apr 22nd 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Big Field): Everyone has voted except the inactive Napoleon and the Inactive Elisa Day. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 04:20:16 Apr 23rd 23 - Lord Caedus: Albatross doesn’t have a single time zone. The only other option would be Newbs or Pesti? I’m fairly convinced it’ll be mercenaries. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 12:06:38 Apr 23rd 23 - King BurningLegion (Mr. Burninglegion The Good): Thee who smelt it was thee who delt it | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 16:22:28 Apr 23rd 23 - Lord Caedus: I mean if that’s not a admission of guilt then… | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 18:17:04 Apr 23rd 23 - Bigfield (Mr. Big Field): Maybe that one doesn't translate across the Atlantic. Not sure if he is suggesting perilous voted No since he complained about it first or you since you replied suggesting a troll. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 18:25:37 Apr 23rd 23 - King BurningLegion (Mr. Burninglegion The Good): These are common sayings my old crusty friends "The one who smelt it delt it" means the accuser is the one who did it...implying that caedus voted "no" and then accused others Also by asking if Caedus had a CDL (commercial drivers license). It's a way of calling him a "bus driver" which is a common saying people use when someone runs over people or things. Similar to the saying " you threw me under the bus" which means you tossed your buddy under a large vehicle causing their demise. Any more explaining needed? Lol (laugh out loud) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 11:50:38 Apr 26th 23 - Mr. Iritas: Currently 26 people want the age to end, 4 do not, and 0 people have not vote I think it's clear that the arma vote casting system is flawed and needs work to avoid this in the future. There is no reason the era should be continuing given the overwhelming majority are in favour of it ending. Doesn't make sense that this vote doesn't end the era. It's well within any margin of doubt. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 05:51:49 Apr 28th 23 - Mr. Mullet Also: wtf this era is still a thing after game death for nearly a day that i bothered to keep record of | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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