We could hang a while against ODC but then the other 3 kingdoms would pick us apart so we have better things to do.  I am fixing to move so it really couldn't have come at a better time for me!

We all knew ODC would attack and not keep their word.  I am sure most of you knew the same!

I guess we should have went and attacked them while they were at war with Military but we gave our word we wouldn't attack them.  We even were friends with Military but we had our own war going on at the time and since some of the members just came from there, even though most were kicked, we decided we would try and keep the little relations we had with them.  We had very little, some had none, respect for them but we honored the agreement to our demise.  Oh well!  have fun plundering our cities. 

PS some of the blocker cities still have good armies in them so bring enough to take them over if you want the cities.  Although we are no longer playing personally our armies will live on to terrorise some people I am sure! lol

OK DEATH. You call us backstabbers, but we have 100% valid reasons for going to war with you, and since you leader is being immature with us, I have graciously explained ODC's situation:

Mr. Alexander The Great [DOOM] (10/3/2008 6:48:18 PM)
you guys are weak only when we are at war with 3 kingdoms do you come at us.. only then you had a chance.. and not for your lame excuse of gruumsh helping they never fought fallen.. back stabbers! a total shame!
You (10/3/2008 8:35:29 PM)
You jest... Would you like to kow why we are going to war with you? We know you were plotting behind our backs with Burnt and with Fallen, as well as Gruumsh. Gruumsh never fought Fallen because we killed their army that was about to attack them. Mr. Jaxen pm'ed Jasmina, promising not to attack us, if she would allow him to help YOU fight Fallen. In addition, you are fighting both our allies, Gruumsh and Burnt. Were it not for this, we would not bother you. But we have received multiple requests for help, which we can no longer ignore and still call ourselves good allies. And, seeing as we had no relation with you, you distrusted us, and disliked us for the most part, I'm not sure how we are backstabbing.

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Mr. Isenguard Report 10/3/2008 7:37:38 PM

We could hang a while against ODC but then the other 3 kingdoms would pick us apart so we have better things to do.  I am fixing to move so it really couldn't have come at a better time for me! We all knew ODC would attack and not keep their word.  I am sure most of you knew the same! I guess we should have went and attacked them while they were at war with Military but we gave our word we wouldn't attack them.  We even were friends with Military but we had our own war going on at the time and since some of the members just came from there, even though most were kicked, we decided we would try and keep the little relations we had with them.  We had very little, some had none, respect for them but we honored the agreement to our demise.  Oh well!  have fun plundering our cities.  PS some of the blocker cities still have good armies in them so bring enough to take them over if you want the cities.  Although we are no longer playing personally our armies will live on to terrorise some people I am sure! lol

We did not give our word we would not attack, we only assured you that we had no intentions of attacking you at the time you accused us of having intentions of doing so. The situation has changed since then. ODC's allies are in danger, and we are obligated (and glad) to help them out.

Oi!!
I was doing my best to keep out of this, but you do NOT mention my Kd and expect me to lay down. :@

Firstly, Gruumsh were never at war with Fallen. It was probably discussed at some stage in the era and dropped for reasons of our own. Jaxen just misunderstood something that I wrote and i explained it, thats all.

Secondly, where on God's green, beautiful World did this came from?! --> " you are fighting both our allies, Gruumsh and Burnt"

I fail to find any records of this in any forum whatsoever. -_-

Please, explain to this Vice which meetings he missed.

Charley, Death went to Burnt and Fallen. Fallen and Burnt declined their offers to war us. We are entering the war to help them, and they are still good allies.

And oops, I did not mean Gruumsh, sorry XD

typing fast.. and you enter a wrong kingdom.. dont cover your lies.. pathetic.. i am too happy to walk away from all this trash.. hahahaha i win!

So, the fall of death will come because of the immaturity of their leader and calling ODC a backstabbers. All of death will die before this era ends.

All of the DOOM armies that will block our path will die.

Hahahahaha. . . .

I love this era.

And this is not sarcastic.  It's just been very dramatic and interesting.

I had fun.  Still am.

Charley, here's some more info for you :D
Alexander wanted to join Fallen, so he left Death and then Fallen told him he can not join :D So now Alexander is without KD trying to attack my cities :D It will be fun to kill him now :)

Lol Jas.. Who is Ozai? Hmm? Hahahha.. :P:P

Not all former KIE members in Death. Your darling Citadel was still in ODC. It is good that he has left the KD. He must know the reason why already. And yeah. So what if we look stupid replying here. We are actually up to something else. And we have found some infos, thanks to you.

 I think maybe ODC should not play anymore so the rest of the people can still have fun!

I don't think. I WANT DEATH to stop complaining about their death, then the rest of the people will still have fun.

Well I have to say this and I dont speak often on the forums because I tend to go overboard on what I say and in saying that I will try to keep it short. So here goes:

We were fighting you honorably and I was enjoying the fights and the trash talking because hey it's war it's what happens. I always saw the Kingdom Death as formidable opponents. I give that respect to all enemies I face because I in turn hope for that same respect. NOW THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEMS OCCURED!!!!!!!

Alexander the Great I still have yet to figure out who recruited you. The only thing I ever said to you would be IF THINGS WERE DIFFERENT that maybe we could be allies but I will still regard you as a friend and I respect you as a player. I said that and you still tried to turn us against ODC, BURNT AND MYSTICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I give my respect to people because I figure it's what everyone deserves. NOW upon saying this your griping and moaning about us and ODC being unhonorable will be answered.

YOU PERSONALLY CAME TO ME AND ASKED IF WE'D LIKE A CF AND IF WE WOULD ATTACK BURNT AND ODC AND ALSO MYSTICAL. Now if I was a weaker person and did not believe in my friends and believe that I should be an HONORABLE ALLY I might have accepted. But I tend to believe in my allies and hold up the agreements I make.

As for ODC they never planned on stepping in and attacking us I spoke with Jasmina as I was looking for advice many times on how I should handle certain situations. In case you were curious ODC stepped in only after I have told them that you had tried to recruit us against them. AND ON A MORE PERSONAL NOTE YOU TRIED TO ASK THROUGH ME AND I FLAT OUT TURNED YOUR ASS DOWN BECAUSE I HAVE HONOR AND WILL NOT BETRAY MY FRIENDS!!!!!!

As far as I care, as allies of ODC, Burnt, and Mystical we maintained our honor as we were'nt willing to go behind their backs and attack them. We have maintained those Alliances and we will not turn our back on our friends.

I guess that's all I have to say on the subject. And I'm sorry that it wasnt as short as I said in the beginning.

lol

lol!

who owned the rainbow citys ? ( which members of preds ? )

btw now that my main army is back in our core you better be ready for a big fight

Rainbows tend to be inefficient increasing the cost of troops without sufficiently increasing income to match.

The ones I seem to collect also have significantly more houses than they need.

Yeah. I want that giddy feeling when I burn down a city, but destroying rainbows leaves me with that sour feeling that I actually did that person a favour.

All 9 of my armouries are perfectly formed and full of troops.

I didnt train Roland, but your "rainbow" shyte is funny. A rainbow city is fine if all  production facilities get bonus. Then it is fine. A bad rainbow occures when labour in a mine city is wasted on farming or trees that arent hitting bonus. So learn the game first.

Also, a pessie surplus is good to get secondary cities populated quick, and moving surplus to quickly diminishing armoury populations, dependent on the race you are.

I prefer not to rainbow, but if I capture a city on certain points on the map, and know I can gain maximum bonus across 2 productions...ie mining and food...then it is financially more viable to handle 2 productions in that city than spend 8m to build a city just for food???? Sigh....

I know what a rainbow is. I tend to buidl a city with farms/lumbermills beginning of era if I can get both bonuses.... But farms in the middle of nowhere mixed in with mines, armouries, amgic towers and god-knows what?? -_-

jasmine, Preds took  in your traitor...

i was only stating :-)

pointing another point why i defected from a dishonorable kingdom

*Bows* You learn well, from a young nub like yours truly ;)

pimp is quiet when he is losing ;-)

you have yet to win a battle against me

if i was near your army "seven" i would kill that too

spud has given me more troubles than pimp :P

Ms. Holly Report 10/7/2008 12:19:41 AM

you have yet to win a battle against me if i was near your army "seven" i would kill that too

I have 7 of those armies....hence the name...you are still trailer trash and have no clue how to play

And Spud is runnig circles around you because of a very famous Pimp technique he has now learnt and will use it to wipe the floor with your KD...the same one I used to kill a 12 man KD alone.