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22:05:00 Sep 3rd 09 - Mr. Killer Knight:
Did you see us whine when Rebirth booted us outta their core? Whats worse is that kingdoms are petrified of dying, hell look at crazy, even tho you claim you fought FATE and nobody else, you were forced to NAP Rebirth just to stay alive, firstly you should have taken the beating and not NAPed them, secondly, if you were in such bad shape that the NAP was necessary, then how easy is it for a big kingdom like FATE to come and mop you guys up? Not exactly what i would call a fair fight.
Credit where credit is due, your still alive against FATE, i dont know how alive tbh but alive nonetheless.
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22:08:50 Sep 3rd 09 - Prince Mielo: Mr. Twelve Inch Mcsatay Fact is, the people who are lamenting about us having 'too many NAPs' are, in reality, bemoaning the fact that they and their kingdoms cannot take us out in a fair, one on one fight. Thus, they are hoping that we get gangbanged by several kingdoms so that they will be safe, and they will get to 'kill us off' and then gloat in the forums about how good they are. Tsk tsk. >> lulz, aren't you the one always trying to manipulate your enemies vs the community with made up "facts" so they'll get hated, look like the evil ones and get gang banged? And not even to start with this: bemoaning the fact that they and their kingdoms cannot take us out in a fair, one on one fight haha, you almost possess 1/4th of the people playing ... what exactly is fair about that? It's not if people say you guys have massive naps that they accuse you of gang banging ... all it says is you guys hardly have enemies and it makes it easy as hell to whore up and get big armies and crush all the unfortunate and smaller kingdoms ... after all, with no merges having a big individual armies from whoring up is a massive advantage in comparison to those who fight their way. | ||||||||||||
22:17:03 Sep 3rd 09 - Sir Pubeguin The Hairy Cheezburger: KK.. Fate wouldnt need 10 players. Yarlin and Mzzery would do the trick | ||||||||||||
22:27:55 Sep 3rd 09 - Mr. Shame: NO offence 'Mr. Killer Knight' but dont you have a life outside of this game as you just seem to be moaning, and im not being funny but numbers is not everything in a kingdom, and as for NAPING it is not all FATE'S faught the other kingdom who accepted the NAP'S are as much 2 blame | ||||||||||||
22:34:51 Sep 3rd 09 - Demonslayer Charley Deallus IV: NO offense 'Mr. Shame' but wasn't it you who made a multi and then talked about it on the forums...and then has the habit of saying people have no lives outside of VU, making topics to attack people, and all at the same time acting like you are above all of that...The pot calling the kettle black... I will drop all of the fighting about NAPs and this era because I am too busy to care atm :) Taking several eras off and hopefully will return to a VU that believes in warring. | ||||||||||||
22:38:53 Sep 3rd 09 - Sir Big And Tasty: Killer Knight = complete imbecile | ||||||||||||
22:42:44 Sep 3rd 09 - Mr. Roheran: ultimately Fate aimed to win the era on fant and they decided on a strategy that worked. That is their perogative so stop the whining. | ||||||||||||
00:58:06 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Shadow: and those that say fate dont do anything didnt watch as fate swept across the bottom half of nirvana and into starta with only a couple players | ||||||||||||
01:29:09 Sep 4th 09 - Prince Mielo: one last question... | ||||||||||||
01:36:46 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Palpatine: one last question P All those whining about fate got pwned by them?(or dont play) I rest my case | ||||||||||||
01:41:18 Sep 4th 09 - Prince Mielo: Creativity and originality at its maximum. Nice job! | ||||||||||||
02:11:55 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Arthur Dent: Ok, why are people so intent on saying that FATE are NAP whores? They seriously didn't NAP that much, they had a fair amount of wars on their hands, and even if they did NAP half the population, why does it matter? | ||||||||||||
02:18:05 Sep 4th 09 - Sir Big Mac Attack: Mr. Arthur Dent | ||||||||||||
02:25:44 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Arthur Dent: Rofl, you guys were one of the main reasons most of our players are dead! ;) | ||||||||||||
02:29:15 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Denonia: Mr. Palpatine one last question P All those whining about fate got pwned by them?(or dont play) I rest my case --- I hear they are open for invites next era Palp. Maybe they got a spot open for you. Afterall that would only be fair considering that you have been sucking up so much that your tongue is going to be permanent brown from now on. | ||||||||||||
02:48:48 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Vangard: It matters b/c a lot of VU now a days is just a bunch of whinning little kids, kind of unfortunate how the VU community has fallen since i joined | ||||||||||||
04:28:38 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Kronnoss: guys the truth is that even if fate didnt have naps they would probobly still win era after era. they have an active kingdom filled to the brim with very skilled players and they all work to get the job done they only have naps to protect others not nessacarily themselves. and for the record im not a fan of fate ive lost 2 wars to them and dont plan on nap'ing them at any point. they are all just skilled players | ||||||||||||
05:44:58 Sep 4th 09 - Sir Justanius Fontainius XXII: Kingdoms: | ||||||||||||
05:59:19 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Twelve Inch Mcsatay:
Sadly, they were found wanting. I blame it all on that Lewatha nub... she talked too much, but couldn't back it up, and hence, became an internal cancer to both kingdoms. And Killer Knight..... 10 players vs your 10? If I was ever playing this game again after this era, I will look you up on it. | ||||||||||||
06:19:47 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Twelve Inch Mcsatay:
And (correct me if I am wrong...) didn't you guys NAP Rebirth as well too? Once we invaded Valhalla? Pot calling the kettle black here?
Biased Mod, attempting to manipulate a community with "made up facts" is VERY BAD tactics. It has a huge tendency to backfire on the manipulator. My preference is ALWAYS to put the real facts out there as it is. And then put my opinion to the impact of those facts. I will let the VU community (or the smarter, more sensible segments of it) judge the facts and my opinion as it is, and if they agree with me, that means what I said had substance. I don't do it the JUICY / Dark Blood way - doing all the bad things, but trying to make out like the good guys, LOL!!! I don't know about the others, but I can see through your smoke and mirrors very easily.
i) Fate has been warring multiple kingdoms at all times this era; ii) several of these kingdoms who were warring each other originally have decided to NAP each other to fight solely against Fate (one, Rebirth, is also "mass NAPping, according to Lewatha's and Charley's definition, purely to take us down); iii) Fate does not do the typical JUICY / Dark Blood tactic where they wait for another kingdom to soften up the enemy before swooping in for the easy kill and quick pickings. Fate's policy is to front the wars ourselves, from beginning to end, and to win, decisively, based on our own strength alone. We (and more particularly, I) do not condone the JUICY / Dark Blood style of playing.
Why does Palpatine need to have creativity and originallity in his retort to you? His answer was the best - it had substance, it had impact, and it got its point across. It is actually you, my dear Biased Mod, who got your skin pricked by him. LOL! | ||||||||||||
06:22:37 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Some Dude: how is mine the oddest ruler name :/ | ||||||||||||
06:37:21 Sep 4th 09 - Sir Pubeguin The Hairy Cheezburger: let me correct it
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07:23:14 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Killer Knight: Mr. Shame, i have MANY other (better) games that I play. This one gets minimal attention and in my time, firstly, your kingdomless...therefore you suck. (A viewpoint I've picked up in my time here) Big+Tasty = Wannabe good player (not even great).....who are you.
its good when you have relations with the big guys isn't it? I just wish Rebirth had given us relations OOP so we could force your entire kingdom to surrender and not just those on Armageddon. To answer whoever mentioned our cease fire with Rebirth, yes...we made relations. FATE were breaking Rebirth blockers (long after we had half their core in our possesion) and they knew they had a big fight ahead so they decided to not waste time trying to crack our blockers....it was a necessary NAP. Hell if we had FATEs mentality nothing would have got done....omg theres shadows---> NAP them!!!!!, theres GOTF, DE and Rebirth.....war one and NAP the other 2. We actually had a pair and fought 3/4 of them....yes we NAPed someone, im a complete hippocrite....how can i discuss your NAPs when we ourselves NAPed Shadows....god dam our six man kingdom was just whoring all era and making peace with everyone, oh wait this isnt diplomatic utopia. Maybe someone should tell FATE. Sure diplomacy is a part of this game but Ive read alot of old threads, the people posting complain about people NAPing 3 kingdoms. FATE how many kingdoms did you NAP/ not have official relations but avoid because it was too much to handle at once? Beleive me or not (you wont) ive been told the truth by one of your members who actually agreed with me....not entirely tbh, but he thought FATE barely challenged themselves and thought the FATE list of NAPs was a list of people to avoid. more to come :) | ||||||||||||
07:27:18 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Crissxcross: iii) Fate does not do the typical JUICY / Dark Blood tactic where they
wait for another kingdom to soften up the enemy before swooping in for
the easy kill and quick pickings. Fate's policy is to front the wars
ourselves, from beginning to end, and to win, decisively, based on our
own strength alone. We (and more particularly, I) do not condone the JUICY / Dark Blood style of playing. | ||||||||||||
07:30:05 Sep 4th 09 - Chancellor Mcfeast Deluxe: theres GOTF, DE and Rebirth.....war one and NAP the other 2. | ||||||||||||
07:32:44 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Some Dude: | ||||||||||||
07:44:46 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Killer Knight:
Give anyone half an era to build up and they can sweep across any lower world.....hmmmm STG for a few weeks and no player can match an elf who should have half the OP of any other player. I tried STG myself and made enough troops to make GOTF surrender, with my sexy kingdom mates armies, i dont want to seem like an arrogant cun as if i did it myself....their work throughout the fighting allowed us to put them in that position. Untill Rebirth killed me I lead the most fearsome rankings, nearly double the closest competitor, who at the time was Fire Lord Mc Cheese or summit. 90k archmages when people were boasting their 50k zerks.....just wish i had built walls and finished training my mages, the 130k zerks im facing now would have been mincemeat.
Vanguard, your talking about how many whining kids there are in the time you have been here? Its ridiculous how high the NAP list of the winning kingdoms have risen in the time i have been here.
I can only wonder how good this game was before then. I will stick around purely to try and beat these kingdoms, ill most likely be unsuccessful and they will continue to act like they are super awesome, but deep down everyone knows the truth. | | (Just so satay doesnt miss this) Satay, do you lead FATE? In old threads FATE is lead by a few other players, a few talk of honour and being a kingdom that will challenge itself. I guess I arrived after the changeover, tbh it may not be you who did this, and it is other leaders, its just from your defense of the kingdom i assume you are the leader to cause this change in what seems to be a good kingdom. I guess the kingdom can maintain its honour by honouring its NAPs (yes im british, i spell honour with a U). But honestly, wheres the honour in the snake style of play the kingdom has taken? If everyone did what FATE does then the game would become a diplomacy game. I thought we came here to war. And Killer Knight..... 10 players vs your 10? If I was ever playing this game again after this era, I will look you up on it. Quitting? I geniuinely want a 1 vs 1 with you next era, your talk implies you have game, but i reckon i can take you :) | ||||||||||||
07:45:40 Sep 4th 09 - Pirate Leela The Eyepatched: Mr. Vangard | ||||||||||||
07:53:26 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Killer Knight: Chancellor, Rebirth didnt have a core when you broke their blockers....you can thank us. But rebirth wanted to war us so we had no choice but to tie them up and eat/burn their econ. I alone took about 200k land in one day, and my kingdom mates ate their west core....maybe 200k land wasn't much to you, but we didnt exactly have alot of time on our hands to build up. My income quintupled (5 times...i dont know the word)
We are a small kingdom, i can accept we were always gonna be the bitch and never get relations. But maybe next era :) (crosses fingers) As for crazy, they were beaten by Rebirth...forced into a NAP just to have a chance to survive against you, LD and ROC...did they not have 4 sides to defend....maybe it was just ROC. I havent looked at the nirvana war thread in a long time. Not exactly what I would call taking them all on at once...lets not forget who else was on that world helping you, talk about slaps in the face. Worse to slap a kingdom you worked with than one you warred imo | ||||||||||||
07:57:24 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Killer Knight: Balls out, list your naps and those kingdoms you warred FATE if your so confident that your entirely deserving of this win. Or would you prefer me to do it =D In fairness i might miss one or two, who knows what other needless NAPs you had. | ||||||||||||
07:59:16 Sep 4th 09 - Demonslayer Charley Deallus IV: i) Fate has been warring multiple kingdoms at all times this era; ii) several of these kingdoms who were warring each other originally have decided to NAP each other to fight solely against Fate (one, Rebirth, is also "mass NAPping, according to Lewatha's and Charley's definition, purely to take us down); Yes...multiple KDs...like that is the same as warring FANT level KDs. Keep telling yourself that fighting lower level KDs is the same as Fant level KDs. Oh, you are going to rebuke me and argue that I am calling them nub KDs? Well, you used that excuse before and it was the worst excuse ever. Get real. Since you decide to throw me in the same sentence as Lew, then fine. When you spoke of a fair 1v1 war, you always bring up HIV+Choco vs Fate OOPs...it was a legit OOP war...but after that? NOTHING. You fought lower worlds, you gang banged lower world KDs, you did jack sh*t. You will just read this post and probably go "Oh, you are just pissed because you lost" well guess what? I am not! I was having FUN fighting a tough and close war, something you may know little about I guess. Want to win the era that badly? By all means, go right ahead, I won't be around(Which I am sure you will be relieved so you have less people actually speaking up for what VU has been like to be FUN) I don't care how many nub world KDs you can fight at once. I am sick of coming on here and seeing you sitting up on your high horse like you are the perfect example of what everyone should be. I am done. Enjoy YOUR game TBL...It really will be a Utopia im sure... | ||||||||||||
08:19:42 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Killer Knight:
BTW...short enough brett? who is auspice or agent smith? | ||||||||||||
08:59:51 Sep 4th 09 - Chancellor Mcfeast Deluxe: People like FATE's fault, Lewatha? Guess we all have you to blame then. | ||||||||||||
09:48:42 Sep 4th 09 - Psycho Buttwiggle:
lol. CRAZY had already fought with Rebirth and DE and both were weakened. Plus LD and RoC were fighting MAD. Anyway if they had all not fought each other and teamed up against you they would have killed you. But they didn't. FATE did nothing wrong fighting. | ||||||||||||
10:42:36 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Twelve Inch Mcsatay:
And who are you Killer Knight? The way you sound, you have an ego level equal to Gladiatorul's and mine. Either that or you learnt too much from us.
Killer Knight, from where I am looking, GOTF were and are fighting other major wars. Your kingdom was probably the least of their concerns. But yeah, go ahead and brag that you pushed them out of Armageddon.
Don't think you were ever on Starta, so whatever you say here is just pure speculation and assumption. | ||||||||||||
10:56:59 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Billious: Political over Military skill clearly matters as much in this game as it did in Machavelli's time. | ||||||||||||
11:01:05 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Twelve Inch Mcsatay:
The essence of a kingdom are its members. To imply that ROC, Crazy, Rebirth, DE, Phi, etc. are lower world / nub kingdoms when some of them have more stronger players than HIV shows how spastic your views of the game are. Seriously, you look like you forgot to take your pills. Take the advice a senior of mine once gave to me: chill down, acknowledge your weakness, go back, train for a rematch and then come back and kick my ass. Either that, or GTFO of the game. No one will miss you, just like no one will miss me when I am gone. The game will go on. Comprende emo boy? | ||||||||||||
11:08:32 Sep 4th 09 - Prince Mielo: Biased Mod, attempting to manipulate a community with "made up facts" is VERY BAD tactics. It has a huge tendency to backfire on the manipulator. My preference is ALWAYS to put the real facts out there as it is. And then put my opinion to the impact of those facts. I will let the VU community (or the smarter, more sensible segments of it) judge the facts and my opinion as it is, and if they agree with me, that means what I said had substance. Yet you are ALWAYS the one manipulating other people their opinions about one kingdom by making them sound dishonorable. See, you never have the facts of "bad things we did" always talking and never providing facts ... always your lame ass assumptions. >> Made up facts like I said, once again you are proving my point. And not doing it the Juicy/Dark blood way ... means like playing with honor and respect for your relations? Yeah I noticed you don't qualify for that skill ... Don't you have another kingdom to drag down? You did your best with Veggies and now with Fate. You must be proud :). The only thing that equals "very bad tactics" is you tbl ... For a person who did not play this era and sees fit to wade into this conversation, you obviously miss out the parts where: i) Fate has been warring multiple kingdoms at all times this era; As you can do that, because you are surrounded by naps :) ii) several of these kingdoms who were warring each other originally have decided to NAP each other to fight solely against Fate (one, Rebirth, is also "mass NAPping, according to Lewatha's and Charley's definition, purely to take us down); It takes an alliance to defeat a horde of alliances ... iii) Fate does not do the typical JUICY / Dark Blood tactic where they wait for another kingdom to soften up the enemy before swooping in for the easy kill and quick pickings. Fate's policy is to front the wars ourselves, from beginning to end, and to win, decisively, based on our own strength alone. We (and more particularly, I) do not condone the JUICY / Dark Blood style of playing. > lol by doing that, you mean mass napping so you hardly have any enemies left? At least we had the balls to fight Fantasia on our own, we aren't afraid of dying. You however obviously haven't got the balls to do our "bad ass tactics" ... Not sure what you even understand in our bad way of playing. All we ever did was grant 1 smaller kingdom a NAP and fight off the other big alliances. Your ethics (if you even have any) are non existent compared to ours. Did you see us Mass nap, town swap for ruthless player, open and close blockers against your nap, basically being a douche that doesn't present any value of honor and trust or what so ever? I'll give you the answer ... no. This is once again what I mean with your false facts and trying to manipulate the people that we are bad people. Ask every NAP we ever had, we treated them with respect and stick to our promises. If you somehow get a hard one because you couldn't be part of our crew or something? That is your problem, you shouldn't degenerate our kingdom for that. Why does Palpatine need to have creativity and originallity in his retort to you? His answer was the best - it had substance, it had impact, and it got its point across. It is actually you, my dear Biased Mod, who got your skin pricked by him. LOL! Pretty obvious that a man with no values like you get's a hard one for every butt kissing comment towards your kingdom. And yeah seeing my reply, I'm sure he got to me ... he made me cry :( ... The only thing that makes me cry is your low values of playing and lowering the values of this game. | ||||||||||||
11:38:59 Sep 4th 09 - Dr. Raving Lunatic Duh Mad Hatter: Prince Mielo who are the two people in this conversation | ||||||||||||
11:39:23 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Palpatine: denonia, i was proud of our association with FATE as I organised it LAST era before the final results of era win were known and because most of KoA were ex bunnies and the leadership of bunnies went to FATE. so it would be better blood if we didn't war. plus ben,julie,david from that other game were there already. indeed i didnt care if we ended up on opposite ends of the worlds..the nap was in the spirit of friendship. that nap was transferred to boom when koa merged with boom when you could of easily been food for them...many in fate were not even aware of my departure. if you are so anti fate by all means war them next era, i consider them friends though if i join an alliance that they fight then so be it also. it is a game afterall. when we naped fate officially, which wasnt really in their interest ,if they were into nub bashing, they had 2 other naps.1 of those was a 1 man kingdom( 3 guesses) and one was an alliance they were napped with last era. it is not fate's problem that their opposition on fanta died so quickly and some of them had unfinished businees with crazy/ld from last era...hence a move to starta. in future before you condemn my stance with allies and friends, who actually are also technically yours, remember to think, type, post in that order.. -Palpatine | ||||||||||||
11:41:00 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Jet: "Did you see us Mass nap, town swap for ruthless player" | ||||||||||||
11:41:20 Sep 4th 09 - Sir Spoon: Kingdoms: | ||||||||||||
11:43:55 Sep 4th 09 - Dr. Raving Lunatic Duh Mad Hatter: Who ever you are Killer Knight this statement is false - "As for crazy, they were beaten by Rebirth...forced into a NAP just to have a chance to survive against you" | ||||||||||||
11:56:23 Sep 4th 09 - Sir Pubeguin The Hairy Cheezburger: Brett isnt auspice, auspice owns, and doesnt talk like that tard... Bling bob is the same perv like brett... and + auspice is canadian or something like North America... | ||||||||||||
12:48:23 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Denonia: @palp. My comment had nothing to do with Fate but was directed at you :-) | ||||||||||||
13:45:26 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Twelve Inch Mcsatay:
And I don't think I have dragged Veggies and Fate down with me :) For every era I have been with Veggies / Fate, they have always won (on their respective maps) either the kingdom crown, the player crown, or both the kingdom and player crown :) Except for that era that was won by Retribution and Agent Smith. I think that is a pretty good record I have :) The kingdoms that I have dragged down are the kingdoms I have bashed up. Which includes JUICY, eh Biased Mod? ^_^
And pardon me for correcting your misconception, but you and JUICY did not have the balls to fight on Fantasia on your own :) It is more a case of JUICY not having any friends on their side ^_^ No one wanted to NAP you guys because of the pompous, sanctimonius way you treated your NAP partners, and because of the attitude you bring to the game. Therefore, it was not a situation by choice, but by circumstance! Don't blame Fate for having friends that value it, and that Fate values. And, this is the best part for me, for all the talk Ali had about destroying me, I gave him two tight slaps in the face and made him slink away, LOL!
And I saw: i) Dark Blood / Prosapia mass napping during their time; ii) Dark Blood inflating their member count >30 players in their time; iii) Dark Blood town swapping NINETY K CITIES to Raistlin for the era win (while I was only town swapping 1 building cities to LPD, LOL!); iv) Dark Blood swapping blockers to protect another kingdom's core (go and look back in the old threads :) ); v) Quietone and Ali being big time bitches to kingdoms who accidentally open their blockers, have blockers that do not block, put down blockers that accidentally and unintentionally foil their plans and generally pissing off kingdoms that are in the way of the JUICY / Dark Blood era win pursuit; and vi) JUICY / Dark Blood attitudes from people like Wilberforce, Quietone, Ali, Arzun, Oya and yourself - the sheer arrogance and sanctimonius attitudes that you bring to the game. And I haven't even talked about you guys bringing Revenge into your kingdom in return for the information about me :) Man, it was a great pleasure bitch slapping JUICY last era. Shows that you guys aren't the great players / kingdom that you make yourselves out to be. Too bad I won't have another chance to do it again since I will be out of this game :)
Useless bunch of people that JUICY / Dark Blood crew..... At least I have respect for Crazy, ROC, LD, Phi Factor, etc. They take the fight to us and don't moan too much about who is winning or who is losing... after all, everyone will win or lose in their lifetime... | ||||||||||||
14:30:29 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Horus: Tissue anyone? Maybe some cheese? This was my first era back after a 10 era or so break, and I'll stick around for one more, but this drama... my goodness. I'm not upset at Fate for running me off Starta (as Panic) or NAP'ing what appears to be a little more than usual. I don't see why other people couldn't have the same view as me. Just fight back in the game, don't sling textbooks worth of garbage at one another in the forum. If you lose, just restart! Take a lesson from it! Besides, this is the AWARDS thread. I see things like f@g, and @sshole... really? Its a GAME. I don't speak up much in the politics forum, but I feel this BS is ruining the experience for me. Where's the honor? Where's the dignity? | ||||||||||||
14:36:25 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Palpatine: @denonia it is clear you are an especially negative person, both from this game and the other game we played together. get some fresh air,stop looking for admins under the bed, and those who value me as a true friend, i value mutually also(such as fate). i also give credit where it is due, even to my enemies, and i hear that towards era end you did very well despite your weak start. congrats on that btw and you seem to have taken to the game with vigour...but then saying that you will probably accuse me of sucking up too. lol. you need a fresh perspective on people coz unfortunately all i see now is an individual twisted with hatred and malice over online games. you give victory to your enemies when you act in such way. i have never said a malicious word against you in 2 years. you need to focus your energies on more positive things. | ||||||||||||
14:40:33 Sep 4th 09 - Prince Mielo: So to make a summery of your post, all you did was, yadda yadda yadda and bash DB. Talking about stuff (the townswapping) that you don't even have the slightest clue about, BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T EVEN PLAYING WHEN IT OCCURS, also raistlin isn't even playing in DB no more ... so hush boy ... | ||||||||||||
14:42:52 Sep 4th 09 - Mr. Palpatine: wow angry mod | ||||||||||||
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