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"They won according to the rules of the game, so I dont really understand what you call "whoreing" at all.."

I said it before and I guess I will have to say it plenty of more times.
THIS IS NOT BLOODY SIM CITY!!!!!!

This game is about warring strategy and tactics.

What if LGC would use Arma just to win?

We would get really short eras with LGC as winners time and time again.
Why dont LGC play like that and why do our players always respond so hard when some one abuse the game OR whore a victory.
Its because LGC players are not people who play just to win in any way possible, Its a group of people who love/like this game alot and like what it stand for,  and they give respect to all who earn it so dont whine because LGC wont respect  lame as Economy wins.
And ill gladly congrat a player who win the era after fighting all era not just a couple of days here and there after whoring money/troops for three weeks before daring to show up on the battle field.

Fra I hate to say it but you lost the argument before you really started. Insulting Abydos was pretty harsh

We will try "your" way of winning next era. So Fra and everyone will stop insulting each other. I played this game for fun so we d on't have to go for each others throats. Somewhere in this thread I saw sportsmanship but now I don't see any. Everyone technically is at fault in some way but that's up to you decide. We can either go cutthroat next era or we can be more civilized. I'ld prefer the civilized way.

A civilized wargame... awesome :}

"And ill gladly congrat a player who win the era after fighting all era not just a couple of days here and there after whoring money/troops for three weeks before daring to show up on the battle field."

Hmm lets take another look at this... saving money and troops for a couple days until you are ready to overpower anyone needed..... This is really what they are critisized for?
  C'mon guys... you can do better than that.
If you think they are weak and pathetic, then invade them, and you can have their money... if you cant, and they can defend themselves and attack Mirror and not let you in, then they arent doign so bad eh?
If they are smart and make good allies, you put them down as weak?  C'mon, thats weak.  Sounds like the using of a 'brain'

You cant win by building, period, you just dont get enough power that way, you cant make troops fast enough, and you cant defend.  Last era I grew, didnt do bad, but this era I fought (as a dwarf) and did very very well.

Monks have played strongly (if not popularly) every time for the last three eras, and I have been placed alongside them every time.. They consolidate, defend the area, grow, and then attack.  This roudn they were delayed by fighting to long against Mirror, but otherwise it would have been an interesting fight.

I move to have a longer era though in general so we can see a fight on a much grander scale, and it was good to not see everyone Naped with Legacy this turn :}

wow.....stupid running rampant in here....

u guys need to lighten up and stop ur *beep*ing. the way i see it is "for every loss comes 1000 lessons" u guys should really just consider learning from your mistakes. i mean for god's sake just use armaggaden your self if ur tired of other ppl using it!

Well, here I need to go in support of Legacy.  Most players would rather not play quick 20-day eras when you've just started and getting into skirmishes and then begin to train a huge army to war against other kingdoms, just to know you only have a week left to try and do so.

Armageddon only shortened the era like 1-2 RL days.  That is not that many.  It is a good strategy to freeze the scores when your man is on top.

Honestly...Bihn...I thought you were the brain of Legacy, but i am not sure anymore after your comparison.

A thief goes against the law, cheat!!........somebody who casts Arma respect the rules:)!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yo uguys catsed Arma when Darkfaith was winning 3 eras ago, and then you recasted to put Eatious in the top spot. Was that being thief as well?:)..

OMG...this is like being in a state dominated by a dictatorship taht control the medias:). Legacy is telling a story that does not correspond to reality....and a lot of the VU is buy it in!!!

Anyway...irrationality rule here:)...

well said Binh :)
andrei go back to zeta damn Phi Scum!!! <3

Well I just used up an hour of my time reading all that I missed... not much there... Fra lost my respect, as did most of Baccus. I had always pictured him more mature, less... well... immature. I was sadly mistaken. It seems everything is shifting around and I think that everyones views have changed this era, and next era sure will be full of surprises.

Honestly, Arzun...I had the same impression about yourself:(. Anyway, that's life...people realize with time.

Next era it won't be full of surprises..in fact...dear Arzun. 

Legacy has mixed the cards, made sure that the Monks get all the attention and got some good ally...even:). It is going to be an exciting era though...Legacy will get the win, a couple of their allies will feel they have accomplished their main goal safely fighting the Monks and a couple of small KDs (remember, Legacy is such a powerful force that their allies cannot be considered anything else than their lapdogs.....it has always been and always will be)...and the Monks will get some good intense experience that will be good for the future eras (at first in Fanatsia and then in Mantrax).

As you see...Arzun...a very interesting era:)....the era of CrissCross.

lol ... I love Binh's comment, and Fra ... insulting Arzun is like insulting my mother ... But I won't insult you back otherwise I'll become what I hate :o

You gotta love this theory ^^

Yes Storm...we can.

Now, let me quickly answer to your post before you go back to go back "to hiding in my own kingdom forum"....and I have a bit of time today.

1- Never put myself in the same league as legacy, NT or Serenity or Vendetta (you forgot to mention that one)....it just happens that these are the only KDs that since era of Jeker put somebody in the top spot....but I agree it does not mean too much. (please read the context of the post before falling "out of my chair with laughter"..next time:)

2- I have already more than one time said that Legacy would beat us on a one to one war (so I am not sure your claim make sense of this). But Legacy would beat also Carnage on a one to one...so not a big value added on claiming that.

3- Actually we openly attacked Mirror...that...just for the history...it is a bit more "experienced" and have a bit more history than most of the KDs that Carnage fought for 98% of the whole era (Mad fought well, but was already weakened by Legacy when you attacked).....then we even attacked Legacy as you could have seen if you had scouts in our side of the map.

4- About the scores, I am surprised myself.....on how Carnage did not higher than us given the fact you guys fought small KDs for the whole era....while the fierce fight we had with Mirror at first (many HoH armies there)...kept us away from the top of the list at the beginning. As for Abydos being above us at the beginning and then going lower...well it is clearly due to teh hard war they started with Legacy (honor for that)...but heh...at the beginning their scores were based on fighting small Kd, while we were bogged down in a hard fight with Mirror).

5- honorable and fair: yes, those concepts are a bit "subjective". For sure, Carnage is not in the best position to use them against us. For sure Legacy is not...........given history...but also given some episodes that happened this era (for instance, the fact they bought BTs - see....this is allowed by the game as arma, but I myself dont find it fair or honorable).

Overall, the thing taht make me think/laugh the most is that KD othenr than Legacys (supposedly on our same side...even though we did not have any formal alliance)....are more pissed off because we won the top spot than if Legacy would have. And the reason is pretty simple: Although they think they cannot compare themselves with Legacy, they think they could have been in the Monks spot in the ranking.

Thats a fair assumption...I have to say.....but the bashing is not fair. The Monks never used anybody. You guys attacked LEgacy independently. We did not have any Map, we were not even alerted on Abydos atatcking Legacy, and when I asked Carnage if their intention was to fight LEgacy, I was told "Not now, we have work to finish first".

Lets continue the fun till end of era..it is starting to get broing.

P.s.: Duke Sobek,...disappointment:(...I did not insult Arzun..unless you believe he insulted me first. You already are what you claim to hate:(..I am afraid:). 

You see Flint...you would be right on this....if I did not receive the nasty Pms I received when we casted arma:).

...but, beyond the fun, I just wanted make sure that the people that think to have the right to say a KD is good or not....think that they might be wrong in their valuation...or at least they need to be a little bit more respectful for any other player.

I dont like to be called names, especially by people that dont have the "honor" stature to be in a position to do that,......just becasue I used a legitime in game strategy.

How baccus recruits:



(she's a whore, geddit?)

shut up sobek.

no you shut up twamao!

IMHO, the BEST part from all the thread is the last 4 posts!

a win is a win. after a couple of eras if someone looks over the lists, he won`t remember that Abydos attacked first Lgc, or Mirror was defeated (not sure here about this word, more like ... relocated, Mirror didn`t go on Mantrax or anywhere else from Fantasia ... respect!) after a long fight. Not even that FF were quickly relocated also!
The thing is next era is the era of Crissxcross. Lgc is on top as KD. Now is under the monks just for the fact that for the last couple of days all the monks just gathered resources and trained for defense.

Respect for Lgc, Abydos, Carnage, IE, etc. All is fair in love and war. We love this game .. so is fair. Is a war game in the end no matter what .. so is fair. EVERYTHING is fair as long as no treason is put in the game.
Casting Arma .. fair. Defending for a strategy ... fair. Not fighting when u consider that  is useless and unworthy regarding your  KD policy ... fair!

So .. farming, warring, gone fishing ... as long as the game allows it IMHO is fair. Multi-bless .. please raise ur hand who used it this era .. c`mon c`mon ... is no shame.
It wouldn`t be fair regarding other players when u will use the flawes of the game when the other doesn`t. That is a bit unfair.

Monks have won this round through Criss. They`ve dominated? No doubt here ... the answer is NO.

The experience of Lgc can hardly be overwhelmed by some other KD. But a young KD as Monks managed to get in top 3. and even to catch the next era name! the game allows it. They did not cheat. The win is by half. Monks won as top player. Lgc as kd. This thread is half right. We need to start a new thread similar to this to praise Lgc too. :))))))))

Too much yapping .... at least for me.

Respect for all!

Cobra ... I agree and I am glad about VUians memories. To be honest I still remember fights since my 1st era .. (Isabel era, in Nirvana - Dolfyn, I know I`m too young to have a word with a strong base here but still...)
I don`t agree with such tactics ... I strongly hold my word to be truthful and honorable.
But the fact remains, Cobra dear, that this era was carried to the end, and Baccus used Arma to get #1 spot. I won`t agree with no one who says that Baccus won. Baccus won through Crissxcross no 1 spot. That is all. As KD`s ... the real fight would have been between this four (IMHO): Lgc-Abydos-Baccus-Carnage. (The order is chaotic. No offense intened!!!)
Everyone is scared of Lgc real power. I think that Lgc only has about 80% real power that is to be considered. The rest 20% is just fame and fear. :)
I have no doubt that if Lgc and I repeat IF is left alone to get ready, Fantasia will be renamed in Blood-shed! But as long as ppl as Abydos, IE, etc, even Baccus raise their voice and WEAPONS against Lgc and doesn`t let it be .... Lgc world domination is a subject to discuss on the battlefield.
In every era, I saw Lgc giving the polish at the top 10. I think the most VU is thinking to defeat Lgc (to reach such a high experience is impressive) or to join it (as I saw in some threads around here ...)

So Cobra, I didn`t intended to upset or cross-over anyone in my last post.

One more thing. Lgc ain`t alone out there in the race for no 1. Everyone is using what he has to get there ahead of you. So if someone is using some .. let`s say ... evasive tactics and shot-cuts ... don`t start yelling. It is not honor in that. And I`m not pointing fingers at somebody in specific!  Next time in the race keep it under close observation and if e tries again that moves .. SHUT HIM UP! when the race ends ... it is to late! remember V? a quick race ... next race wasn`t there. I didn`t agree that move but wasn`t my call. (I was in V, to clear it up)

Can`t wait next era to see what will raise against Lgc big pink elephant! And remember my words, the end of the next era ... the childish stuff like who whored who ... will be put again on the table if Lgc doesn`t win. If Lgc win everyone will be quiet about no. 1.

So let's see here.

Fra - Glad you're going to stop posting. The more you type, the worse that you and yours look. Your 'arguments' really aren't helping and you're only losing the debate, much like you'd lose any real war.

So anyways, to all these people that are flocking to defend a Baccus 'victory'. Would you all flock to say, Legacy's side, if we did the same thing towards the beginning of the era, even with a 480 tick arma? I mean yes, we'd all know it's a hollow victory but to all you it'd be a 'victory' and that'd all that you all seem to give a rat's rosy rear end about.

<3 Sobek : )

And I agree with Cobra as much as I could agree with anything. I've only been around about 10 eras, some better then others. But I remember them all, every era is defined by some big event, be it LGC, NT, Serenity, Male Models, Agent Smith, or Vendetta, all of them seem to have a big impact on the history of VU. There are bigger and better memories from alot further back, but I am in no position to talk of those. This era, it was Baccus, people won't forget,  they never do.

No way I'm reading all of this.

Only thing I'll say:

Fra missed a good chance to keep his mouth shut.

i keep hearing V put up along side Serent but did V actually ever win a battle with lgc or is my mind blank and they only whored and cast a quick arma to win?

Overall, the thing taht make me think/laugh the most is that KD othenr than Legacys (supposedly on our same side...even though we did not have any formal alliance)....are more pissed off because we won the top spot than if Legacy would have. And the reason is pretty simple: Although they think they cannot compare themselves with Legacy, they think they could have been in the Monks spot in the ranking

actually everyone is pissed off that you made a brag thread about it. and made yourself out to be a total ass.

Can someone provide me of what a perfectly honorable victory is?

And who the winners were?