Forums / In game politics / The Spartan Embassy

can i jus state, our walls surround our core. any walls that have been built do not surround any cities except for foodfoodfood, which was built after we had settled our core.

All oither cities trapped within walles (which is 2) were taken by abraham from a war that FA were fighting, he came and took the cities after we had fought the armies.

unless i have missed a city p0lease point them out, but all walls were built around our core hence any city trapped within these walls is within our core and therfor you have no right to claim we cannot build walls where we did.

as for armies trapped inside, i apologize myself for this, but had the leaders of the armies contacted me personally about me opening my walls or any other walls around the core, then we would of allowed them through no questions asked.

We have the issue of asking for walls to be opend for armies coming inside, which i am sure you can agree with.

Back on the topic of the war.

we (every member of FA) are annoyed simply because around our ore your armies have been prepping on our cities, now understandably if your fighting a war in that area and we took a city i can understand the army prepping at that point, but to place armies of 5k+ troops after the city has been taken is down right wrong in anyones books.

If any veterans are reading this, then they'll understand where im coming from here, but if two old allied KD's have cleared a world of any threats then they want some fun in the dieing days of the era, hence we arranged a "friendly" war, a "friendly" war being, no one is to get upset over it, no alliances should be lost, it is 100% sporting and just something t have a laugh over.

Now when it comes to sporting behavious, your KD crossed the line, which offended me and my KD, we were prepping troops yes, but we didnt send in 5k+ troop armies to prep on your cities, not once did we enter your core with more than a scout, and may i state scouts unless they are super scouts, are allowed to enter cores to simply scout boundaries, not to prep.

we would have allowed scouts inside the core if tey were there primarily to get a view of boundaries and such.

but when your armies had preped on our cities and we had asked several players to remove them nicely. they replied with things such as.

"but we're at war, why should we remove them if we're at war?"

"it says we're at war with you guys in the forum"

now obviously theres been a c0ck up in your forum if people are having this idea, so we contacted members to see.

then people started taking our cities, with a good 30+ hours remaining before the war was to be started, this annoyed us to the brink of retaliation, hence why we started killing armies without warning prepping on our cities.

If you can claim we were wrong in doing this when we lost cities to your KD then by all means lay down an arguement.

Evans then asked my permission to send in scouts to see troop numbers in cities and not to prep, i agreed to this simply as a retaliation to what we had recieved from your KD.

Evans got the info and asked me if i wanted him to leave, he then told me about messages he had recieved from people shouting at him to leave the core, not nicely but shouting and screaming.

now if i had of recieved wind that the messages were nice pleasent requests, then Evans would have been told to leave the core ASAP.

so then i told evans to keep scooting about until every army of Spartas had been removed from our cities, sanoh agreed to this, but still armies remained, obviously sanoh has no control over his KD because we lost more cities after this agreement, hence war was declared early.

I feel as leader of FA i have a right to protet my KD mates, and that is what i attempted, if Sparta had not of been dishonourable by prepping on cities before the war had started and even taking cities, then this would have been a nice "friendly" war, unfortunately because of the lack of leadership Sparta have shown we have decided not to become allies in the future, and any future encounters we have on worlds there will be war as soon as so much as 1 army wanders near our core.

~ Fox - Leader of FA

I standby fox all the way in this.

Mr. Sorra Report 11/25/2007 6:09:53 AM

If some of your players werent so disrespectful and unhourable then all this wouldent have happened.

inmy 5/6 eras of playoing this is the first time ive been accused of being dishonourable.I call character witness, scientist, pirate lewatha,thor, and other such players ive fought with.

This is a mail i recieved:

Mr. Sorra [Sparta] (11/24/2007 4:21:13 AM)
GET OUT OF STONE RIDER NOW. IT IS OPEN FAILER TO DO SO WILL AFFECT OUR RELATIONSHIP IN THE FUTURE Vice; Sorra

now how can i listen to that, its not a request its an order, and ive been speaking with some of your members sorra, they aggree this has been a shambles and still want good relations, I will not name names as that is their choice, but if its your members saying that youve been dishonourable, then perhaps youll realise its you in the wrong

bravo

-applaudes-

you out of breath now? =D

=D rofl

gimme some then =)

-legs it-

and your actions are calling you dishonourable backstabers who need to abuse an alliance so as to get in areas to try an attempt to destroy our KD.

which is failing.

tempting Trogdor, but i'll pass;P

when that is said, we have throwed our arguments on the table, and the only thing you guys is doing is pull out useless facts that don't even matter, and calling us "hypocrites".

yes, you have my sympati when it comes to that.

i told my kingdom not to prep on cities or attack anyone. you can not blame me for not telling them to not do that. also Mr. Fox i would say that you are not being fair to your kingdom members according to a message i got from Mr. Santa the Bearded. P.S. Mr. Santa the answer is a no.

Sir Santa The Bearded [FA] (11/25/2007 11:19:43 AM)
Im sick and tired of this sh!tty kingdom FA! Its unbelievable! Most guys in here are lucky to be still alive, because someone else who DOES know how to play saved them, or the stupid enemy just made a mistake! I hate this kingdom, Im a vice here, supposed to vice but every time I give an order to someone its either NOT followed OR that stupid FOX guy tells them to do something else. Just like a dictator or something! I want to join your kd, Sparta sure as hell doesnt seem the best kd there is but you can only be better than FA. Thats why I send you this message, I have a massive army in their core. Let me join and ill make sure you will win this battle. Hell, make me Vice and Ill make sure you will win the entire war! So, what do you say? Will you give me a chance to betray these newbs and help you?

All of you sicken me, that is all...... continue the flaming

I don't like Fa they whine a lot.

To Edd: And indeed it has

To Stickman: Very true

my bad...but he gets the point.

umm in in the world of starta.

Killing FA dosent require much attention or effort. It requires below the bare minimum a person can possibly give.

Sir Santa The Bearded Report 11/25/2007 3:47:40 PM

Can I PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE pull a little test/prank with Sparta. I want to message their council to ask if I can join them, right now, I can help them you know with ym army and stuff. I wont be leaving of course, but if they say I can, I think thats about the limit of onhonourability ;) If they say no, then they are still a bit honest. So can I send the message? PLEASE!!!!!! This post btw is my proof that I wasnt going to join for real or anything :) I just want to mess with them :D

should explain it

becasue sparta started attacking before the war was due to start :P

summed up in one

congrats on taking a city with 92 buildings, you must be so proud Mr. Evans.

with regards to above statements about honour, every member of FA that attacked before the war started are dishonourable. One or two members attacking from Sparta does not excuse every member of FA to attack every other member of Sparta that played honest. THAT IS DISHONOURABLE no matter how you try to explain or spin it.

give names of who attacked then, because after the war with JFF and vampyr, we never left our core since there was no-one to fight.

so provide proof of arguments, we have provided proof of all our alligations.

Fox has excused you all, as i said before i have sources who (in sparta) also said they were in the wrong, anyhow who cares, your dropping,

I will apologize to the members of Sparta who dont have anything to do with this or who were just following orders, however, people as Sanoh or Sorra dont deserve it.

blah blah, blah blah blah!
dishonorable!
blah blah blah!
No you attacked first!
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah


This sums up the entire thread, enjoy :)

lol..you prove my point

No you attacked first
(LIE) blah blah
(Get your facts correct) blah blah blah blah

I meant this as a template for both sides and you have graciously proved my point...lol...so funny...what a retarded situation.

sexy party......

I win