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~Insubordination Embassy~
15:56:00 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Gallyon:

WAR DECLARATION

the Kingdom of Insubordination(Fuzzy declares war upon the kingdom of Imperium of Knights(IoK).
Insubordination has various reasons for this war declaration, a few of them will be posted down here.

1) at the start of the era Nitral made me believe that there was an anti-fuzzy alliance. So, I tried getting as much information about it. Though in the end it appeared that only IoK wanted to attack fuzzy. See some prove down here.

send to someone inside ANZAC

We had no plans to attack you.only to attack fuzzy and JANK further down.I think this was a case of mis communication but you die now anyway.As i said on the forums.You will not live.

I do not wish you fear but if you had messaged me first and waited for a reply before making the statement that AoA will destroy us this could be avoided.

 

Sir Kathandarion

 

Conversation between Zondervan and kathandarion on the chat

[15:08] Sir Kathandarion: Fuzzy is going to die at IoK's blade...do you wanna help ?

[15:08] General Zondervan: it depends when?

[15:08] Sir Kathandarion: well

[15:08] Sir Kathandarion: after we help you with mad

[15:08] Sir Kathandarion: we will regroup

[15:09] Sir Kathandarion: and then head out and attack Fuzzy

[15:09] General Zondervan: i can't have war with too many at one time right now

[15:09] General Zondervan: ok

 

Message that Orcinus received from Sir Daniely who is quoting Mr. Vapor

Mr. Orcinus Orca [Fuzzy] (9/18/2008 5:35:24 PM)

do u want war with insubordination?

if its war u want declare it now otherwise move away from my city

Mr. Daniely [IoK] (9/18/2008 4:21:04 PM) GOOD BAD


You (9/18/2008 7:14:54 AM)

are we at war with fuzzy??

Mr. Vapor [IoK] (9/18/2008 7:34:46 AM)

heaven and fuzzy are allied so yes

 

this is the message I got when I was ordered to attack Encarsia Formos...........(this conversation happend jst now b4 he took my city)


2) apart from that IoK has also made attacks upon us the previous time. even after we got a diplomatical agreement, attacks towards us happened. 


# 16:21:13: Army II lead by Mr. Daniely attacked and took over Encarsia Formos. Due to their overwhelming power our army retreated to Violet Ville.

# 16:21:13: Army II lead by Mr. Daniely attacked and took over Encarsia Formos. Due to their overwhelming power our army retreated to Violet Ville. We lost 0 Swordsmen, 0 Archers, 0 Knights, 0 Magicians and 0 Catapults in the battle.


2008-09-19 - Todays News

02:01:27: Army II lead by Mr. Daniely attacked and took over Hideandseak. We lost 0 Ghosts, 0 Archers, 0 Riders, 0 Spellweavers and 0 Archmages in the battle.


2008-09-23 - Todays News

17:16:18: Peace II lost a battle against Vapor lifeguards from Mr. Vapor. We lost 1 Gaia, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Ogres, 0 Shamans, 0 Nazguls and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.

17:16:18: All troops in Peace II have died!


3) on top of that Sir Kathandarion has claimed various times on msn that he would kill Heaven and Fuzzy. He also claimed he is superior..and alot of different things which he did not made true yet. Nitral(kath) also said Sir Vapor had a deep hate against Insubordination, a hate that comes from within. and that he had made a genius plan which would destroy Fuzzy, IoK..and half of Heaven.


oh, and u have been treathening my members, and tried to threaten me. now, I told you that if u piss me off, I would break our agreement and send u a war declaration. now, U kinda told me in ur message that it is war.

So, here is ur beloved War Declaration.


May the best man win :)


King Gallyon

Insubordination


ps. for once show us the superiority and geniusity of IoK, coz we haven't seen it yet..all those blockers with Gaps..and sloppy strategical moves. well, see you on the battlefield.. this message is also posted in the Mantrax Wars topic


17:18:31 Sep 24th 08 - Mr. Homanil III:

Quite a lot of expectations from us i see. I see that the Insubordination kingdom has been like an angel and not committed a single offense.

So Heaven and Insubordination the 2 most powerful kingdoms in Mantrax are on a crusade to destroy first time Mantraxians IOK who apparently have been blackmailing everyone and making diabolical schemes to rule over MANTRAX.


17:25:11 Sep 24th 08 - Mr. Rubyian:

This is Fuzzy's first era on Mantrax as well, so that was pointless.... Its also our second era of existance ;-)


17:31:46 Sep 24th 08 - Duke Argyle:

Heaven is also having it's first era on Mantrax!


17:33:37 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Stirlin:

haha Fuzzy was on nirvana last era which was our first.... so we are all new kingdoms, and its blatantly obvious Nitral was "one" of the main organizers of the AFA (Anti Fuzzy Alliance) people from Fuzzy have friends in different Kingdoms who without being requested will tell us of evil plans people make :) this doesn't make them spies at all before people start with the spy flaming....


17:44:19 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Gallyon:

haha, Argyle! ;) that was funny :p... first on mant ;).
and ya, that's kinda how it is Homanill III ;).. it's more like, the person that wins the war is always right ;)..

same in  WOII, if Germany had won the war nobody would prolly think bad about the concentrationcamps etc ;).. since it is known that Americans are the inventors of the Concentration camp :D..

Anyway, May the best man win, if u guys fight well.. u might receive an invitation for next era


17:50:28 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Kathandarion:

Sir Stirlin

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9/24/2008 4:33:37 PMhaha Fuzzy was on nirvana last era which was our first.... so we are all new kingdoms, and its blatantly obvious Nitral was "one" of the main organizers of the AFA (Anti Fuzzy Alliance) people from Fuzzy have friends in different Kingdoms who without being requested will tell us of evil plans people make :) this doesn't make them spies at all before people start with the spy flaming....


Lool i wasnt actually.you guys are clueless.I was just the smartest guy there.


17:52:39 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Stirlin:

Nitral you can keep denying it but so many people have told us the same story, you was a main character in its creation.


17:54:30 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Kathandarion:

Loool i wernt even there wen it got created.but this is pointless arguing.and wtf...so many people.from what ive seen your evidence are too people who hate IoK because we killed them.


17:57:04 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Stirlin:

there is more than 2, ive had several people who have contacted me, not gallyon but he knows, you should really be more cautious when sending messages to people you dont really know :P
anyway we our sp@mming my embassy :P ill rather us talk through pm if its necessary


18:07:15 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Gallyon:

nah, I want this Embassy to get 500 posts ;) so go on :D
oh, Kathandarion...(ur nitral..) ..anyway, people..look here..He kinda admitted he made a plan to kill us :)

nitral zegt:

coz although we did plot against you Zondervan is the only one of those two


nitral zegt:

heaven wernt involved

nitral zegt:

We wanted to kill heaven ourselves

nitral zegt:

should i tell you the plan

Dennis| nog 1 daggje!!..morgeh eh    zegt:

ok

nitral zegt:

It was pretty simple

nitral zegt:

we get you to declare on a bunch of KD's pledging that we will help you and follow you into war when we are ready

nitral zegt:

we keep stalling you so you fight it out alone

nitral zegt:

then we secretely ally the one of those KD's you declare on who we think is doing best

nitral zegt:

IoK would be untouched by war

nitral zegt:

and the strongest military wise

nitral zegt:

we sweep in and wipe you out

nitral zegt:

then we turn around and do the same to the other ones who are weakened

nitral zegt:

(except the ally)

nitral zegt:

the ally would be providing us with screen shots as you were pretty far from us

nitral zegt:

(that was SK.....  the ones who snaked us up but provided us with screen shots and   as to were you were)

Dennis| nog 1 daggje!!..morgeh eh    zegt:

    it's not as genius as I thought it was



19:31:48 Sep 24th 08 - Mr. Rubyian:

Its crazy to think that an Anti-Fuzzy alliance was formed after only 1 era of existence on Nirvana. You guys had reason to be scared ;-) but it is pretty cool to know that you were that scared of us to ally against us right away :D Its just to bad it didn't work out, I was looking forward to that war :-/ I really was.

So far, Fuzzy hasn't ever really been on the defense, and noone has has breached our main core. I don't like dominating and feeding on kingdoms so much less powerful than us. But if your gonna complain and form secret alliances, it makes it a little more fun beating you so keep it up;-)


19:33:48 Sep 24th 08 - Mr. Rubyian:


FuzzyInsubordination16Sir Gallyon100
HHeaven17Duke Argyle93

-vs-

IoKImperium Of Knights10Sir Kathandarion39


edit: This was supposed to be an edit of my last post but It did a reply instead o.O


20:04:19 Sep 24th 08 - Mr. Piece Maker:

Sir Kathandarion

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9/24/2008 5:50:28 PM
Sir Stirlin

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9/24/2008 4:33:37 PMhaha Fuzzy was on nirvana last era which was our first.... so we are all new kingdoms, and its blatantly obvious Nitral was "one" of the main organizers of the AFA (Anti Fuzzy Alliance) people from Fuzzy have friends in different Kingdoms who without being requested will tell us of evil plans people make :) this doesn't make them spies at all before people start with the spy flaming....


Lool i wasnt actually.you guys are clueless.I was just the smartest guy there.

 

And the only guy there? ;)


20:25:52 Sep 24th 08 - Mr. Vapor:

fuzzy breaks another agreement will this kd ever not backstab


20:30:20 Sep 24th 08 - Mr. Rubyian:

Since when do we backstab >.< We have never broken an agreement without reason for it..... Why must people continually say that :-/


20:33:43 Sep 24th 08 - Mr. Vapor:

Sir Gallyon [Fuzzy] (9/20/2008 4:30:30 PM)
King Kathandarion,

This is a full confirmation that everything said on MSN is the truth and will be kept.
The Following Things were decided on our conversation on MSN.

- As long as IoK makes NO hostile movement(hostile magic, attacking, preparing, circling around city's) Fuzzy will not aid Heaven in the Battle against IoK.
- The smallest hostile attitude again*beep*zzy will be seen as a war declaration, and we will react to that without a warning.

these things above were agreed to by both King Kathandarion and King Gallyon. It clearly states what will happen if broken.

Yours Sincerely,
Sir Gallyon
King Of Insubordination



and you cant open week old news and put a today tag on it gallyon


20:37:52 Sep 24th 08 - Lord Charley Deallus:

lol from what I hear...there are a lot of treasonous people here...with their secret plots and bad grammar -_- I say...go Fuzzeh! :D


20:43:16 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Stirlin:

you really expected us to to carry on our normal lives while you secretly plotted against us?
you should have known a war was coming ever since you tried making the AFA


20:48:03 Sep 24th 08 - Mr. Vapor:

i didnt want that *beep* you guys did cause we were killing your scouts up here now that they have made all armourys its off right ?


21:23:06 Sep 24th 08 - Duke Loren Soth:

I prefer to stay out of the forums as much as possible but there are times when I must go against my own principles and tell it like it is. First off, it was a big mistake to attack Heaven.. especially with only two armies.. maybe three. Where was the back up? Second off, Heaven could have rolled over IoK without Fuzzy's help but apparently IoK is not as tactful as they would like to think and are now facing a fate worse than finishing last on Mantrax ;) Third and finally, enough talk.

LS


22:01:06 Sep 24th 08 - Sir Gallyon:

Sir Gallyon [Fuzzy] (9/20/2008 4:30:30 PM)
King Kathandarion,

This is a full confirmation that everything said on MSN is the truth and will be kept.
The Following Things were decided on our conversation on MSN.

- As long as IoK makes NO hostile movement(hostile magic, attacking, preparing, circling around city's) Fuzzy will not aid Heaven in the Battle against IoK.
- The smallest hostile attitude again*beep*zzy will be seen as a war declaration, and we will react to that without a warning.

these things above were agreed to by both King Kathandarion and King Gallyon. It clearly states what will happen if broken.

Yours Sincerely,
Sir Gallyon
King Of Insubordination


and you cant open week old news and put a today tag on it gallyon

  1. I see plotting against us as a hostile attitude Vapor (u said from the start u wanted us dead, nows ur change)
  2. I never put a today tag on anything, I just copied as i received from my members.
  3. stop complaining, just fight or surrender.


04:00:45 Sep 25th 08 - Mr. Rubyian:

Personally I would prefer that you fight.... And please don't get desperate and raze your cities -.- I hate that tactic so much.

But seriously, good luck to you guys. I want a fun war, no traitors and spies and whatever else.... Despite all this forum flaming and whatever, I have fun with wars :D


04:04:35 Sep 25th 08 - Mr. Homanil III:

You've taken propaganda to a whole new level. (Applauds)

Tell me, if you're at war with a leading kingdom that attacks you unprovoked and some other kingdom( a really powerful one) starts building armories all over you and is trespassing blockers on a regular basis would you really just stand there and not do anything (Can't see what the problem is with alliances). In this case would you be an *beep* enough (don't take me personally) to go and war with both the leading kingdoms when you have only a quarter of the strength you possessed last era.


04:09:38 Sep 25th 08 - Mr. Rubyian:

From what's already been said, those blockers are not for your core but rather from Southern Cross. If we were going around your core blockers it would be a different matter but with those blockers as far as they are away from your core, it shouldn't be a problem.....


04:52:28 Sep 25th 08 - Mr. Homanil III:

True it shouldn't be a problem but it becomes a problem when just about all our cities get prepped and several attacked.


06:26:15 Sep 25th 08 - Necromancer Lust:

Kudos Gallyon Kudos


07:03:46 Sep 25th 08 - Lord Charley Deallus:

Duke Loren Soth

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9/24/2008 4:23:06 PM
I prefer to stay out of the forums as much as possible but there are times when I must go against my own principles and tell it like it is. First off, it was a big mistake to attack Heaven.. especially with only two armies.. maybe three. Where was the back up? Second off, Heaven could have rolled over IoK without Fuzzy's help but apparently IoK is not as tactful as they would like to think and are now facing a fate worse than finishing last on Mantrax ;) Third and finally, enough talk.

LS
The man speaks the truth :) his word is the way!


07:55:22 Sep 25th 08 - Sir Kathandarion:

Sir Gallyon

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9/24/2008 9:01:06 PMSir Gallyon [Fuzzy] (9/20/2008 4:30:30 PM)
King Kathandarion,

This is a full confirmation that everything said on MSN is the truth and will be kept.
The Following Things were decided on our conversation on MSN.

- As long as IoK makes NO hostile movement(hostile magic, attacking, preparing, circling around city's) Fuzzy will not aid Heaven in the Battle against IoK.
- The smallest hostile attitude again*beep*zzy will be seen as a war declaration, and we will react to that without a warning.

these things above were agreed to by both King Kathandarion and King Gallyon. It clearly states what will happen if broken.

Yours Sincerely,
Sir Gallyon
King Of Insubordination


and you cant open week old news and put a today tag on it gallyon

  1. I see plotting against us as a hostile attitude Vapor (u said from the start u wanted us dead, nows ur change)
  2. I never put a today tag on anything, I just copied as i received from my members.
  3. stop complaining, just fight or surrender.

ok.
1)the whole plot thing was at the start of the era.Over a week before we signed this.
2)you bring evidence from BEFORE our NAP something you was aware of WHEN you signed the NAP.You knew all about the whole AFA thing when you signed this so if thats your reason for breaking then you have betrayed us.
3)we can multi -task...what cant you ???


09:15:28 Sep 25th 08 - Necromancer Lust:

you mean why?


12:15:22 Sep 25th 08 - Mr. Homanil III:

(Scratches his head irritably) Dunno why there's the misconception of us having declared war on Heaven and all, they're the ones who attacked us unprovoked.


16:05:01 Sep 25th 08 - Sir Gallyon:

ok.
1)the whole plot thing was at the start of the era.Over a week before we signed this.
2)you bring evidence from BEFORE our NAP something you was aware of WHEN you signed the NAP.You knew all about the whole AFA thing when you signed this so if thats your reason for breaking then you have betrayed us.
3)we can multi -task...what cant you ???

1) true
2)
half true, it is true that the plotting was before the NAP..and that I knew everything about AFA. but, there's always a but ;) that's not the whole reason I attacked u :p. U know, its very anoying if someone plans a war against u. but because I wanted some competition, I was going to let u do it. now, Fuzzy doesn't break NAP's. For example, u attacked our scout, so that's a break of the NAP, which pisses me off, then u start treatening us. together with the things that happened before the NAP was signed, that was the last drup. So, it all together was the reason ;) if u didn't attack us, and if u didn't threaten us. Then we werent on a war now. you gave us a valid reason to war u. Anyway, ur going to become number 1 right? and ur the best kd on Mant. then show it, and beat us :)
3) false


17:37:00 Sep 25th 08 - Sir Kathandarion:

Sir Gallyon

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9/25/2008 3:05:01 PMok.
1)the whole plot thing was at the start of the era.Over a week before we signed this.
2)you bring evidence from BEFORE our NAP something you was aware of WHEN you signed the NAP.You knew all about the whole AFA thing when you signed this so if thats your reason for breaking then you have betrayed us.
3)we can multi -task...what cant you ???

1) true
2)
half true, it is true that the plotting was before the NAP..and that I knew everything about AFA. but, there's always a but ;) that's not the whole reason I attacked u :p. U know, its very anoying if someone plans a war against u. but because I wanted some competition, I was going to let u do it. now, Fuzzy doesn't break NAP's. For example, u attacked our scout, so that's a break of the NAP, which pisses me off, then u start treatening us. together with the things that happened before the NAP was signed, that was the last drup. So, it all together was the reason ;) if u didn't attack us, and if u didn't threaten us. Then we werent on a war now. you gave us a valid reason to war u. Anyway, ur going to become number 1 right? and ur the best kd on Mant. then show it, and beat us :)
3) false

just to point out on 2.Your prick of a member Sir Free prepped on us a few days BEFORE we killed a scout.He also attacked us 2 and prepped on us thrice on the day of the scout killing.when we told you this you said if we attack his armies that were still prepping it will be war but you never told him to move them.and if you did he didnt listen.


22:37:15 Sep 25th 08 - Sir Gallyon:

ofcourse not ;)
I have never been aware of an army prepping, but only of his scouts which I personally ordered to move to that section.
but well, that's prolly coz u never mention any names in ur messages, just like Sir vapor..it's pretty anoying, coz I cant solve anything if u dont give me specifics


01:07:16 Sep 26th 08 - Necromancer Lust:

whoa, whoa, whoa we didnt attack IoK they attacked us, also killed an army of mine in the far north and i decided to ignore them intially, then they attacked our northern outposts so.. we killed MAD and now were coming after IoK

gallyon sorry for posting this in your thread, i just had to respond to homanil


01:26:19 Sep 26th 08 - Mr. Vapor:

Umm no lust you turned your army around and camped it near a city then argule declared on us so i killed it


01:52:50 Sep 26th 08 - Necromancer Lust:

we totally ignored you guyz until you sent armies in our north outpost, now you get to die "_"


01:57:54 Sep 26th 08 - Mr. Homanil III:

You guys too have attacked us, and as for prepping i'll find a thousand volunteers here including myself.


02:04:43 Sep 26th 08 - Necromancer Lust:

i was camped on that city vapor, while i was offline i didnt attack anybody near you "_" you started the war with miscommunication


02:22:45 Sep 26th 08 - Lord Charley Deallus:

Death is a great gift :) give it to all of your friends :)


07:22:52 Sep 26th 08 - Sir Kathandarion:

You (9/23/2008 10:50:16 PM) Dear Gallyon,
I appreciated your fast reply to the business of fuzzy player free prepping on our armouries but i think they have gone to far now.He has begun prepping on our armies with brigades.The only way forward i see is if he is killed.he is at current prepping on 6 different cities.He has refused to move.

This is the second time in a day the 6th time in a week that he has done this.We let the blocker thing go but these cities dont need to be landed on for him to get to his cities,We will do what we feel is right and seek justice,Wether this sparks a war between us is up to you.


Sir Kathandarion
King Of IoK


True I didnt mention a name in the post.But when the message title says:

Sir GallyonSir Free24th Sep (06:41)

I thought someone as smart as you would no who we were talking about.


08:02:57 Sep 26th 08 - Mr. Vapor:

Duke Argyle [H] (9/12/2008 9:17:26 PM)
yeah, but I've set on our list as kingdom we have war with, because of your offensive diplomacy. Don't you worry, I don't even know where you are hiding.

You (9/12/2008 9:53:44 PM)
and what is that meant to mean offensive diplomancy ?

Duke Argyle [H] (9/12/2008 10:03:05 PM)
you threatens before you ask of his purpose in said area. As he did not pass a blocker to get where he got (Lust that is).

You (9/12/2008 10:05:05 PM)
there is no blocker because there have been 2 kingdoms in here area they have died and the blockers would of been built by tommorow

Duke Argyle [H] (9/12/2008 10:05:46 PM)
yeah, better get blockers before heaven gets there :P





i killed your army after i got sent this and why the hell wouldent we send armys to those crappy citys they were there undefended and were heaven citys


08:47:42 Sep 26th 08 - Mr. Homanil III:

So you guys are warring with us because several guys who got killed by IOK were kind enough to inform you that we were forming an anti fuzzy alliance.


10:47:33 Sep 26th 08 - Necromancer Lust:

theres that... and Heaven is fighting IoK and Fuzzy are our pals "_"


16:34:57 Sep 26th 08 - Sir Gallyon:

yup ;)..
oh..Kathandarion, U never mentioned name of an army ;) im not gonna get all mad on someone when I don't even know if ur speaking the truth ;P


18:32:20 Sep 26th 08 - Sir Kathandarion:

Gallyon....>I told you the name on msn


18:46:38 Sep 26th 08 - Sir Gallyon:

not that I remember :p


03:30:24 Oct 1st 08 - Necromancer Lust:

bimp bump bimp


13:56:32 Oct 1st 08 - Sir Gallyon:

u singing a song??


10:50:52 Oct 4th 08 - Sir Gallyon:

WAR DECLARATION

Fuzzy Declares war Upon RoC
Reasons:

-
Suspection of Planning war again*beep*zzy and Heaven
- Moving lots of troops to blockers that seperate their area with ours
- Preparing on our Blockers

That should be enough right?

FuzzyInsubordination16Sir Gallyon100
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ROCRoyal Order of Claidhmore21Lord Kevdwayne64


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