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 Idk about any gang bang.

 Koh   10 players
Novus 7 players
CoA  2 players was three.
Solo Fred  1 player.


VS
H&S 9 players
Nara 7 players
Spqr 6 players
IPF 6 players  3 havn't been on the map long enough to really count.


 We stayed out of the war when it was just coa koh and novis vs nara and h&s until it became clear the koh would have victory and break into their core area.


 Now it is just Spqr and Ipf vs Koh ,CoA, and Novis.


 Over all I would say no gang bang , just a good age of north vs south.

The south I feel we all feared as many of the better players were on that side so ofc we all had no choice but to fight....  no gang bang just action and reaction.

Well played all :)

Pretty sure none of my kills are Koh 

A humble request to everyone on Valhalla: Please make sure not to buy any resources from Fred the douchebag on the market.

hahah fair play to fred, I would have plundered slade half given the chance. 

Any kingdom with Fred is almost always on my to-kill list unless there are much stronger vices to keep him leashed and at heel. That guy is just slightly better than people like Survivor, Revenge and Kath, and that isn't saying anything good about him. Would almost never trust him or his word. I guess this serves as a lesson to all the folks in Valhalla now about his trustworthiness.

 So sorry your age was stressful, freaking sad hearing you go on about how you were so gang banged and everyone out farmed you.    You were not Gang banged, and very few players could out farm the legendary tbl.

     My bet was KOH would win the age before it even started as was all the other kingdoms here I am sure now that the age played out ofc KoH will have victory.

 Yet TBL persist on claiming they were gang banged and out farmed lol, claiming such with a player line as your kingdom has, with the relations your kingdom has just doesn't make much sense.


 You guys have played a good age and deserve victory just don't go claiming gang bang and being out farmed cause that is a total load of BS.


 About time somebody plundered him, I know for sure I saw koh prepping him earlier in age when we had sight and were attempting to push into coa area.

 IDk if he was plundered I guess the only real way to know would be to see slades news feed.

 



  Well played fred I would of plundered him too :P


 

There was one point in the era when we had maybe 3-4 IPF armies to our west with another 2-3 SPQR armies behind them within a day or two while at the same time defending from Nararians and HnS in the east with maybe 2.5m troops between their blockers and Vilhelm's 200k, that point in the era did get kind of tight for us as Novus were still training troops and my casting kept losing range b/c of city placement. 

02:48:45 May 23rd 17 - Sprout (Mr. Sprout):
 So sorry your age was stressful, freaking sad hearing you go on about how you were so gang banged and everyone out farmed you.    You were not Gang banged, and very few players could out farm the legendary tbl.

Eh, Ody, we WERE gangbanged, and we WERE out-farmed. Me and my kingdomates have been fighting since OOP, as Nararians and Novus can attest. The fact that I can reach the size I have reached now is just because I am a pretty good player.

And yes, we were gang-banged. And probably according to your calculations (the one you keep in your heart, not the words you put into the forums), we should have lost. Let's say Novus and Church get cancled out by Nararians. On your side, you have three war-elves and four pumped-up orcs, not including the various farmed up dwarves and humans. On our side, we have only two war-elves, and four orcs and trolls who only were able to get fat after we punched through H&S' blocker.

That's 7 vs 6 on the AOTDable race front. Plus you guys have at least 4 big dwarves and 3 humans with 200Kers. Its just me (human) and our halfling on the KoH side.

There is no way in heaven (no pun) that we should be winning this era. Or having any advantage at all. Especially since we have been fighting OOP until now.

So yeah, when you come with your bullshit that you "thought" KoH would be winning this era, I'm not impressed. You came to our area when we were still stalemated at H&S blockers, so there is no way you were really thinking KoH was going to win the era. You were just thinking: KoH shall be gang-banged down, and the H&S - IPF - SPQR team will do it while Nararians deal with Novus and Church.

Unfortunately for you and IPF, KoH threaded the needle with the strategies and tactics we needed to prevent a loss. Now that H&S is down, trust me, it will be a pleasure dealing with your kingdom.

1) We do not behave like you or Fred would Ody. We do not plunder an allied player with no hesitation or shame at all :) We should have B&Ded that fuckhead however. Useless twerp that abandoned his own kingdom.

2) Yes, you outfarmed us. You guys had no OOP wars at all. Unlike IPF, who fought nobody OOP, KoH was fighting Nararians and Novus in an OOP war. All three of us were beat up, then we had to CF Novus when H&S entered the picture (and they were clearly allied to Nararians then). During the OOP war, Novus had no space to expend. Only after we CFed, were they able to drop bigger mining cities at last. When IPF entered the picture, the key players of Novus had just about finished their economic cities and were starting to train some troops.

Just remember this.... unlike IPF, Novus actually did some HEAVY OOP fighting for once.

3) You call it what you want. I call what happened to my kingdom a gangbang, and we will NOT let the era end without either us or IPF / SPQR going down. If IPF had had an OOP war, maybe we would have allowed an earlier Arma cast, but no, we will see this out to its very end now.

4) Chade and I did not retreat because we saw your armies, Ody. Chade and I retreated to get AOTDed AFTER destroying McMax's and Marcus Aurelius' armies. Which were bigger than your armies, BTW. McMax had 260K AMs combined when you were only having 220K. Marcus Aurelius had 28K nazzies combined. We took them out, and pulled back to get AOTDed and recover injured. Then when we came back out, you ran north with your tail between your legs.

5) You killing off those 1.5 million troops of my allies (Fred is not my ally BTW) is because they were players recovering from OOP fighting, while you were farmed up and waiting for them to come to you. Nothing spectacular about it. Even a newish player can pull it off.

6) We were never winning. At one point in the era, most of us in KoH felt certain we would lose. That was especially after Cao Cao had escaped, and then Justanius and you showed up and SPQR refused to reply to our relations inquiries. You thinking that KoH would always be winning is just tongue-twisting spin.

7) And spare me the vet beating up new players crap. There are many vets on YOUR side as well, and worst still, they outnumber us. You guys just could not marshal your farmed-up players properly and your vets made some major critical mistakes. When your side has more elves and orcs than us, with bigger armies than us, and you have dwarves with 3 90Ks each and humans with 200Kers in reserve, there is no excuse to be had at all. You guys TRIED to gangbang us with FARMED UP armies, and some of you guys had NO OOP wars too. Just that you guys FAILED.

8) Finally, if you did not want us to jump on you about plundering Slade, then you shouldn't have insinuated as such in the first place. Like I said.... do you think that all of us would behave like you?

Hey Fred :)

1. You did not tell CoA that you will be plundering Slade. Even if you did, they would not have allowed it :)

2. It was Osi that cast those dragons. KoH are not that stupid to be casting dragons on allies :) We do not behave like you would, backstabbing allied players.

3. I'd rather the dragon take all of Slade's gold and pezzies than it going to anyone hostile to us.

4. We WILL be attacking you :) We're just waiting for our other big elf to come over here (you know.... the one with more than 500K AMs.... and he will be arriving in about 24 hours). If you do not want to face him, please feel free to raze your 200K down to the ground now so that you can spare us the expense of fighting you :P We really don't want to waste our time clearing out the trash, you know.... :P

I can't fight someone who has plundered an allied inactive of several hundred million in stone and gold :)

I'll leave your 200K to one of my kingdom's elves. Your undefended cities need to be taken out though, in the meantime :P They must be giving you a lot of additional income :o

guys stop nagging, i m not saying i have the right to plunder that player.

but if at any time, a player go for more than 10 days, i ll plunder him, and i ll repeat what i did in this era.

its either you play or not. (again if i didnt maybe an enemy will do or a dragon in our case) so dont teach me a lesson in morality , its just a game of war for me.

Its Fred's idea of a war game :) Backstabbing allies and reneging on promises and agreements are all fully legal in his book!

I don't really like wishing evil on people, but I hope someone gives him a bloody nose and knocks out his two front teeth in real life as a preemptive strike against him backstabbing them in the future! :D

19:51:24 May 22nd 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie):

A humble request to everyone on Valhalla: Please make sure not to buy any resources from Fred the douchebag on the market.

hehe hope so :)

Friendly banter I like it!

in my opinion every eastern kingdom had a tough time,
so a gang bang call cant be made only for the reason that every east kingdom got gang banged the whole era.

Nararians oop fought Koh,wof,coa and novus until a cf was struck.

Koh oop fought us and novus until H&S entered as our ally, then they cf coa/novus
then IPF and SPQR joined the war against them.

H&S fought, koh,novus,coa, ipf for a time.

novus fought us,koh, until a cf then H&S and IPF (i think?)

either way fun era guys,
congrats to KoH for a well earned win.

I will make sure to read this once I have a minute, just gotta put the kettle on. Ooh Fred had a nap with you guys, now that I didn't know. 

yeah its a good read mate :)

mcmax stop trying to throw dragons at people..... those dragons clearly follow KoH rul since they dont come near ;)

my tea got cold while I was reading this, but man there are some long posts. I do not agree with fred attacking slade after reading the facts. But funnily enough a gang bang didn't really happen against koh as not everyone attacked them at once. Well done for the win stop slaying people on the forums lol. The real heroes are the Hammer and Shielf nubs that got you guys in to a stalemate. Those guys are my players of the era to be honest. For some weird reason valhalla is full of vets. My advice would be to ban all of us with more then 5 era's from this map and leave it to new players. Supposedly the 50% rule protects them but I think that is not good enough. The other mvp is Dalak, he raised an era ending monster army. 

stfluff up endless!! we love justanius cooties ;) my pez reveled in it :)

and yes it was only coa and elanor who got us into the stalemate :P.. the rest were easy pickings halfer armies that were slightly good >:P

plus your army.... that was worth less than my pokemon collection hehe :P jk <3

indeed, tbl is a beast... also dalak according to tbl but ive talked to dalak.... i dont buy it :P hehe

Justanius, I really wasn't trying to go full-retard asshole on the forums. I was trying to set certain facts straight, especially when it came to some of Sprout's delusions.

Most of KoH, and all of Nararians, Novus and CoA were involved in OOP warring of the heaviest kind. I believe that WoF and Cao Cao from H&S were also involved in OOP warring. KoH were warring TWO kingdoms simultaneously - Nararians and Novus, with intent to win. Practically every one in my kingdom participated in one way or another. Ask the members of the kingdoms we were warring - we forced everyone to drop their farming and fight. This was not a situation where any of us could farm with utter abandon.

Then suddenly, an intervention from the north comes. Cao Cao, who feasted on CoA and WoF OOP, swoops in and destroys my HoH human OOP army with 12K nazzies. H&S and Nararians are clearly allied as Nararians are rebuilding in H&S territory. This forces KoH and Novus to scramble - we NAPped, and try to get everyone's economy back into shape and find a way to delay Cao Cao for as long as possible for our war-elves to emerge. To our delight, Cao Cao did not push his advantage, for if he had just used the momentum behind him, KoH and Novus would now be the ones waiting for the next era to start. We suspected he needed and was waiting mage support for AOTD and from the looks of it, we were right. This bought us time.

So Dalak emerges first and after 72 hours of non-movement from Cao Cao (who had parked his army in a city taken from me), finally comes up with an AM army that, while not able to match Cao Cao's power, could do AOTD hits on Cao Cao's army and force him back. The rest of us are still scrambling our economies. And no word of who IPF and SPQR are warring (they were probably farming their asses off). We surmised that if even one of IPF or SPQR go to war with H&S, it could end up being a somewhat fair era overall.

So while the rest of us in KoH, Novus and CoA were rebuilding / getting our economies into shape, farmed up H&S armies started appearing. Nararians were rebuilding faster than Novus. More of KoH finally fix their economies and started pumping out decent armies. Then Sprout emerges..... at the KoH border! He walked halfway round the map from his end to come to the KoH border. A farmed up IPF were clearly joining H&S' and Nararians' side.

Fine, we said. We tried opening diplomatic channels with SPQR. Their leader and diplomat, Eridisius, never replied to us. Well, at least it is still 50 - 50 on who they will war, we thought. We heard they had started feasting on a rebuilding WoF in the north-west. We were able to force Sprout, who had hit armies from a rebuilding CoA, back north.

Then you (Justanius) emerged with a big nasty looking AM army.

We were telling ourselves, if we do not kill off either one of Cao Cao's or your army, our era is a complete loss for sure. There was no way we could take down two elves and an orc that was (at that time) equivalent to an elf with our recently rebuilt economies and troops. Then a fortuitous series of events happened, you got ensnared by a woman (behind the rise of every great man, is a woman, behind the downfall of every one of them, is a woman too!), and we were able to kill your AM army.

Turning point of the war, we thought. And we also managed to get Dalak a Nararian 200K (as badly built as it was). Then SPQR emerged on our flanks. One elf, two orcs. Having more land than me at that time, and I had 300K of land!

You can imagine the rage that was within me when I saw SPQR coming towards us. You may think there was no gangbanging involved, but all I saw were three farmed up kingdoms and one rebuilding kingdom picking on two kingdoms that fought OOP and one kingdom that was rebuilding.

And I told my kingdomates and myself this..... if we EVER get out of these battles alive and with momentum and advantage on our side.... we will NEVER let the era end on anyone's terms but ours. We will decide when Arma is cast and when the era will end, and before that, we will be going all out to destroy IPF and SPQR, two kingdoms that did not do OOP warring, but teamed up with H&S to take on kingdoms that had been warring since OOP. The key word here was "IF" because we were still not optimistic at that time.

Then McMax and Marcus Aurelius made huge mistakes, we destroyed their armies, chased Sprout north. Dalak wiped out a blocker with 1.2 million men in it, including Cao Cao's army. We were able to destroy most of the farmed up dwarf armies that H&S were throwing at us (caught many of them divided and unmerged). Eros was AOTDing my knights (he did a 195K unit AOTD after the kill on Marcus Aurelius).

The tide had changed. The gangbanged got through the worst time and now have momentum on their side.

And thus, we are currently heading for IPF and SPQR. To show these farmers that folks who have been fighting since OOP can also fight farmers through superior strategies and tactics. That its not all about just farming and coming out with some big ass army 4 weeks into the era. Any noob can pull that off.

That's OUR story as far as KoH are concerned. Been fighting since OOP, been fighting heavily outnumbered, been fighting farmed up kingdoms.

So when Sprout comes with his shit on the forums, it results in a very angry loser making long, rambling rants then! And appearing pretty dumb and retarded at times :D

No one is really bashing KoH either. I'm the one doing the bashing on those guys. And in return, they're bashing me directly. But I am very tough to bash, and when I bash them, I give them a bash of a bash. And I feel so bashful whenever I bash!