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LGC died to thoose who werent giving a fck. Wonder how LGC would seems like if they had more Binhs or even some fcks-giver other than a few. I honestly thought it would be easy to repell the attackers (vs LGC) with thier former KD size when they killed off Immortals the first time OOP and the attacks started to come from Poodles. There isnt any strong armies at the front other than the massive Zerk army from Binh, which was shown when a hoh halfer army got vaporized by it.

Mr. Bad Bell Mate 10:44:33 Oct 30th 13

LGC getting their excuses in early? Pick any [or all] of the following:   BEO BEO farmed in a corner. BEO NAPed everybody. BEO waited until LGC was fighting others before engaging. BEO crosslog [Danwells new favourite!] TBL has no life X is abusable Binh got grounded by his sister LGC's allies were bad. Even though LGC never allies. LGC went all halfers LGC went all elves. LGC doesn't care LGC fought from OOP LGC had a bad spawn LGC had inactives

Seems apt.


I like how they've wheeled out the "you may have won, but we had the most fun" whimper, though. I remember pioneering that circa 2007. Don't believe a word of it lads. Deep down, LGC are absolutely seething. There will be internal disputes, fingers pointed, excuses made, threats to leave and general apathy from the vices. 2 days before the next era they'll recruit a few more randomers and go again with high hopes and baseless boasts.

They aren't happy they've lost. They're broken.

No one ever talks about me :-(

I've always been an enemy of lgc. But have always been a respectful player.

Halfers are new? Pardon me, I haven't been here long, I'm new to the game

halfers early mid game. dont bother with ponies if you want a big late game army. actually don't play halfing at all. they're hated.

dont bother with ponies? yes... dont use one of there biggest advantages early to mid game... 

I did not realize either of you were experts on the matter, more nubs giving advice where they have no expertise. 

@ Zond, if you think about it a halflings options are ponies or advents. It is undeniable the lower maintenance cost of advents is a MAJOR benefit, however the 2.5x cost for 2 extra OP is a major disadvantage. And the choice usually comes at the question, do I have an experienced army. If you can get xp, using advents is far more advantageous and will produce gold quick enough to bypass the 2.5x cost difference, however with no xp this is not the case.

Doing some very simple math you see;
915,000 ponies = 732mil gold = 366,000 advents OR
5.49mil OP  VRS  2.93mil OP

2.5mil op difference unadjusted, and factor in my mysterious military level that im going to pretend is 5 for easy math and you get even larger differences;
8.23mil OP  VRS  4.4mil OP. nearly 4 mil OP difference, which, makes a huge difference.

There are many tactics in this game, many things to consider. And the fact that I can simply park my army in a city and I do not need to move it makes maintenance of little relevance.

In my early post I made no claim of making a mistake, I simply wished the era would end because I do not care for making this take another 15-20 RL days to get back to my true passion which is OOP/ Mid game.

Woohooo i can use math and make numbers and show how good i can calculate! Woop woop.

I like jokes. Dwarves rule halfers drool!! 

Great! Crylock gets it!! Lol. 

And the fact that I can simply park my army in a city and I do not need to move it makes maintenance of little relevance.


then don't complain about

I cant even field my 915k Ponies without excurciating money loss

Laura lends her little helpers hands! 

Attack us! Swarm us with steamy banelings and roasted zerglings.

"You (1/6/2014 4:47:23 PM)
"we also are in a pickle jar of sorts. If we move on another KD.. And can't take them out quickly and lgc dies.. We have poodles armies in our core that are ready. ".... We faced the same problem. We saw your giant armies and held back armies in our core because we feared what would happen to our core when Legacy dies. I forgot..did we agree to a 72 tick notice after legacy dies? or would you prefer a notice plus 120 ticks after the death of Legacy...5 days/120 ticks would normally allow armies to return from the front. This assumes you want to fight it out after legacy dies....
The Cheating Abusing Mod (1/6/2014 5:00:15 PM)
Well. As it stands we fight once the last lgc town falls. But I cf every KD.. So I fight everyone once they die. Didn't want to sit all era. we saw the hoh city. And had someone ready for that. And then once knitler and mad died. We couldn't move. As we only have 2 fighting. And a mage. Others are afk. I know for sure I'm fighting immortals as I'm the only one who cf them. Everyone else naped them " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Over the past 36 ticks or so, Mod Abusers asked if we would voluntarily end our CF with Mod Abusers to have a "1-1" war.  I politely declined, explaining that Legacy  was not dead (in fact, Binh's AOTD zerk Army had arrived in our core) and our biggest armies were still down south fighting Legacies remaining cities.   I also explained that I did not know which way Phoons would jump, and Phoons, plus Mod Abusers plus Legacy would probably be a bit much. Zond's position is that Poodles should have no problem as we were a big kingdom, and Mod Abusers was a small one.    The numbers are a bit deceptive..Legacy tends to smash armies and put the player in rebuild mode and most of our players have been fighting Legacy.  Can many smaller rebulding  armies defeat Legacies and Mod Abusers large ones?   Maybe, Maybe not.   Last night, Mod Abusers launched their attack, with some casting, and launching armies at Poodle cities in our shared core area.   We messaged the individual Mod Abuser players, citing the CF conditions, and they all pulled off their attacks and pulled back.   This morning, it appears as Mod Abusers has had a change of heart; their armies have returned to prepping on our cities in clear violation of our CF. My assumption was that Phoons and Mod Abusers would team up to fight Poodles after Legacy died..   I don't see why Mod Abusers has to violate a CF to get their war.

I didn't get any msgs :-( 

we agreed to no such NAP with poodles

Death Fordius should NOT be on the above list.   He napped Poodles as a tiny kingdom and specified when he joined Mods that the nap would hold in the event of a Poodle Mod war.  He has explicitly honored his agreement, and even politely messaged when one of our players got confused and began to prep on one of his cities.

I don't really know about the other players in Mod Abusers, because I don't know what they are being told in their internal communications.  Normally in VU you stick with a kingdom through out the era, and normally you follow orders from leaders.   If they were to take offense, they should do so at era end.

Mod Abusers specifies in their kingdom description that they might lie.  Maybe some of the players are roleplaying that style for an era.   Given that kingdom description, it would be disingenuous if Poodles claimed to be terribly outraged or excessively caught by surprise.  

I thought we were cheaters! I shoulda known!

if lgc was still aline then why were you mobilising against us?

Hmm. I'm afraid it has been 80% poodles, 10% phoons, 5% immi 5% freelance alliance fighting LGC.

Apologies to Fordius, even thought you're in their Kd
You deserve credit for honor

And touching is done in IMs you know that!

So if I Sighn a peace treaty whith everyone the whole world will be at peace?

15:52:44 Jan 18th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Adulterer):
massing troops in someones core waiting the day to attack is not very friendly.


If  you are referring to me. Please remember I built my cities in this section here before any lines were drawn and when we were considering OOP with you. So the "forces massing in your core" is not exactly accurate, and could easily be describes as defending. In addition had we been sure that you would have held up your side and not attacked from behind, I would have been marching on lgc instead of defending.

Anyways, the past is the past, and this is now lets just have fun at the situtation we are in.