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@Ancient, stop proving what's true and what's not. After all the battles, News, fillers, News, fillers come!

@DenoPan and Path, make a separate thread and put all your accusations against MAD members in one shot. Make it complete and attach all your evidences. Then, wait for my two-word reply. ;) Make it interesting, ok?

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20:01:42 Feb 10th 10 Lord Deno Pan
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08:00:27 Feb 11th 10 The war with Domi had to be done. We actually thought you guys were good players that were plundering and feeding hardcore on domi to build your armies. The only way to stop that was by doing it ourself. I must admit. I am realy strongly disapointed that it turns out you are just gold feeders and land feeders like that. I honestly thought we were up against a rolling kd playing realy well.

this statement of yours is too closed. That you can conclude what you see and read without even confirming it to me, the leader of the kingdom you are accusing. Im sure if you ask me, I will be glad to tell you our story. :)

So, I think from you, can I say that HIV is too tactless in making their statements? NO! Because I will rather contact HIV leaders firsthand and hear their side. HIV and MAD are too kingdoms with different ideology, I dont care how you guys are playing.

If you are having problems with how this game can be played, come to VUAdmin.
If you are having problems with how we play, its your problems not us, mate.




I myself could not have said it any better.

War is not fair, not at all. The sooner you accept this fact and adapt to it, the better off you will be. This is not a shot at anyone just reminding everyone of this often looked over fact.

True, but no ones perfect =P

If you are having problems with how this game can be played, come to VUAdmin.
If you are having problems with how we play, its your problems not us, mate.




I myself could not have said it any better.

You do realize that's an excuse for anyone to multi as much as they want right? :P  War isn't fair, get ready to catch my 500 accts! :P

If they feel like getting banned then no ones stopping them =P

Seriously, MAD has pulled things like this a lot before.

I remember in the PHI+MAD VS DB+LGC stalemate era. They multi'd their ass off to feed one human for him to get a 500K cat army.
and back than, they also denied doing it... until they got banned that is...

This era is nothing new to them... Which is why I would never join MAD.

Nothing against people in MAD, I like a few people in there, but things like this make the public-image of your kingdom go doooooooooooooooown.

So Mad are 'Insider Traders'?

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Mr. Aloysius Report 02:41:53 Feb 11th 10	Yo! @Ancient, stop proving what's true and what's not. After all the battles, News, fillers, News, fillers come! @DenoPan and Path, make a separate thread and put all your accusations against MAD members in one shot. Make it complete and attach all your evidences. Then, wait for my two-word reply. ;) Make it interesting, ok?
Mr. Aloysius Report 03:01:42 Feb 11th 10
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Mr. Path Report 05:13:49 Feb 11th 10
Mr. Anonymous Report 05:18:52 Feb 11th 10	True, but no ones perfect =P
Mr. Path Report 05:19:09 Feb 11th 10	Furthermore, I am not critical of MAD doing market feeding strategy this round or not.  I am simply saying this fool needs to stop trying to pass it off as some unplanned and fortunate event.  He just happens to buy out the market and put some slaves on priced at almost exactly a billion gold.  His kingdommate just happens to have a billion gold laying around.... If hes too ashamed to admit it, why do it in the first place?  No point in lying about it.
Lady Katie Holmes Report 05:23:18 Feb 11th 10	If you are having problems with how this game can be played, come to VUAdmin. If you are having problems with how we play, its your problems not us, mate. I myself could not have said it any better. You do realize that's an excuse for anyone to multi as much as they want right? :P  War isn't fair, get ready to catch my 500 accts! :P
Ms. Console Report 05:47:01 Feb 11th 10	Is it bad to clean up the market and sell your stuff so that one of your kdmates can buy it?
Mr. Anonymous Report 05:47:06 Feb 11th 10	If they feel like getting banned then no ones stopping them =P
Sir Ryan The Archtroll Report 06:17:33 Feb 11th 10	LOL! Someone still reminiscing the past.
Pirate Candybeard Report 07:45:03 Feb 11th 10	Seriously, MAD has pulled things like this a lot before. I remember in the PHI+MAD VS DB+LGC stalemate era. They multi'd their ass off to feed one human for him to get a 500K cat army. and back than, they also denied doing it... until they got banned that is... This era is nothing new to them... Which is why I would never join MAD. Nothing against people in MAD, I like a few people in there, but things like this make the public-image of your kingdom go doooooooooooooooown.
Mr. Qassim Report 08:56:05 Feb 11th 10	@ Ancient Basio "btw NIQ did that as she wont be online much in the coming days so she didnt want gold to be plundered by Path" i guess you better start stuck piling those slaves again, so that when your b1tch is online you can buy up the market all over again and sell those slaves :D:D @ninques if your going offline for a while try something along these lines, these days we call it training... its an extremely efficient way of getting rid of your gold and you'll have a new army ready by the time you get back.. amazing right? :D!!!!!
Mr. Gauntlet Report 10:15:18 Feb 11th 10	So Mad are 'Insider Traders'?
Lord Deno Pan Report 12:50:12 Feb 11th 10	And then to the about how you play part. Do you realy think the feeding style can be justified. Its frigging easy to set up. At era start all big kds when they are doing role calls reserve a roll for a kingdom feeder / exploiter.

Don't know if this is true and general tactic, but IF it is so, then we have another big reason to set a cap to limit to the size of kingdoms. Then they can fill up the ranks with (good) players only as there hopefully wouldn't be "free seats" to make that kind of manipulation.

Guess it's time to "bump" the topic on the suggestionforum - even though I do not support the 10-member cap but want something considerable higher. 25 members fx.

EDIT: Copied much too much. Trying to delete.

lol you can feed reguardless... its actually easier if you have two allied KDs to feed with... but meh, you'll never stop it.

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14:45:03 Feb 11th 10 Seriously, MAD has pulled things like this a lot before.

I remember in the PHI+MAD VS DB+LGC stalemate era. They multi'd their ass off to feed one human for him to get a 500K cat army.
and back than, they also denied doing it... until they got banned that is...

This era is nothing new to them... Which is why I would never join MAD.

Nothing against people in MAD, I like a few people in there, but things like this make the public-image of your kingdom go doooooooooooooooown.

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Pirate, we dont feed that 500k cata. :P *Feel the nostalgia* We just pull it off better and faster than the kingdom that controls how the game can be played.

Anyway, all the players I had before dont play anymore. *move on, mate* Its a new set of players this era, I never ordered them to do anything tricky especially to the eyes of our enemies that know they are good.  And if we ever make it to the top this era, its because we are better than last era. :) *move on, mate*

I remember back then, you guys were shouting... Admin, multi-sweep please! multi-sweep!

Hehe. Why not try it again? I will be happy to tell my past players irl that Lewatha cant still move on. :)

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Deno Path, you got to love that two liner there. :D

I'm not overly arsed about it all.

Mind if I say some things here?

Greetings Lords, Ladies and all the rulers of VU!

Please hear me. I stand on things that have my eyes seen. I might boastful and brag things but I'm not a Liar. Again please hear this beautiful and sexy Priestess voice. (I'm not good in english grammar so please bear with me)

Lord Deno Pan Report 06:24:46 Feb 11th 10	[23:15:19] Deno says: Ancient Basio [Mad Against Drugs] are only selling 3855000 slaves [23:21:31] Deno says: Ancient Basio [Mad Against Drugs] are only selling 1175000 slaves 257.2 gold. Nice feeding there basio. Who is feeding you the gold from selling  slaves at more than 4 times the market value ? no wonder you can field that amount of ams.
Lord Deno Pan Report 06:28:14 Feb 11th 10	i realy think its bloddy bad taste you guys brag about niques bank account of 1 bilion gold and then pull a stunt like that. Keep your secrets a little more close to yourself if you wanna go greyzone.

First of all, the first batches of Basio's armeis was not my doing as feeding him. For I know, he was assigned at our affairs in Armageddon which he had got a bountiful loot from plundering those Winged Dusk players before we have CF them.

Lord Deno Pan Report 06:58:28 Feb 11th 10

So you are making the exuse that niques are buying your slaves becuase she dont want to get plundered by Path ?  What you completely forget is that Niques is clean sweaped out of the era. I am sure you are to dumb to actually look before you come up with an exuse. niques had 1 city. Path plundered and took it. She has nothing left, so that exuse is just plain retarded.

It's not an excuse my dear Deno. I just bought those slaves when Path plundered me. I had panic due to that he may plunder me all over again since I advertise at the forums that I got billion of gold in trasury. I bought those slaves before he returned taht city to Argyle. Can't show you eveidence because me and Basio are of different timeline. When I know it, I'll post it here.

Mr. Path Report 12:19:09 Feb 11th 10

Furthermore, I am not critical of MAD doing market feeding strategy this round or not.  I am simply saying this fool needs to stop trying to pass it off as some unplanned and fortunate event.  He just happens to buy out the market and put some slaves on priced at almost exactly a billion gold.  His kingdommate just happens to have a billion gold laying around.... If hes too ashamed to admit it, why do it in the first place?  No point in lying about it.

You're definitely right there my friend. I even don't know that Basio had those amount of Slaves at the market until I panic buying all resources that MAD has at the market. For the last time I saw slaves where sold to 125 at max. So haven't have an idea that there was around that price for slaves.

Mr. Qassim Report 15:56:05 Feb 11th 10

@ Ancient Basio "btw NIQ did that as she wont be online much in the coming days so she didnt want gold to be plundered by Path" i guess you better start stuck piling those slaves again, so that when your b1tch is online you can buy up the market all over again and sell those slaves :D:D @ninques if your going offline for a while try something along these lines, these days we call it training... its an extremely efficient way of getting rid of your gold and you'll have a new army ready by the time you get back.. amazing right? :D!!!!!

Sorry mate my armories are all at full capacities with MUs. That billion of golds was intended to create a Horde of Axers at Zetamania but unluckily due to my OJT haven't have time to fully build an armory there.

Lord Deno Pan Report 07:26:34 Feb 11th 10

So your claim now is that Niques is gold feeding you out of fear that Path would run from south east paert of Zeta to Starta or valhalla and start plundering her tlike mad there ? It would take some time you know.  You pretty much are claiming this reaction. "OMG HE IS 375 TICKS AWAY, ANT ITS PATH, WHAT DO WE DO. QUICK. BUY ALL BASIOS SLAVES"  comeon. Noone is that dumb.

Ouch! It's sad to hear that from a friend.

Maximum Profits form Mimimum Expenses. That's what my professors taught me as a Management student.

I will not apologize for what I have done since you throwed your insolent words to this Sexy Priestess. For me it still in the moral level of marketers out there to control the market on their benefit.

The Beautiful and Sexy Priestess of VU
Niques the Mystical

I think  thats the  role  of a dwarf in a kingdom ! to farm and  help the others whit gold to build up armies ...  i dont see other role for a dwarf in  a kingdomn(mabi mage:P)  no other good qualities(soldier)  other then good gold  a nd stone production even the race definition is a definition of a  farmer ...  or maby a defender but he can be a defender and farmer in the same time ...

if somemeon does not like it its his problem ... if you dont want the dwarfs to farm  gold  go and get it from them :)   its  simple like that ...

Dwarf = Elf killer...

That's what your elves are for...

Well, if they are closed enough with you. Not if your just with another Dwarf player.

'The problem doesn't actually lie with MAD or any kingdom. It's the competitivity pulled to a great extent that is causing gameplay like this.'

Yup the game is very competitive, still, I think its for us as players to 'play fair' because that's a good thing?

LOL! Retards.

btw niques how does it feel being someones bitch? saving up gold 1 billion gold that must've taken what? 250-400hrs and then just buying a guys slave and saying your going inactive

Well, 250-400 hours of service, it's certainly not just a little 'favour'.

I just wanna say  that Ms. Niques is  Beeyyoottchhh .... :P

Ms. Bluelight has won 185 battles, captured 144 cities and killed a total of 2565988 men and women.

you guys can sai waht ever you want but  BLUE  got never fed from any of us ...
we had all our  roles  in oop  his was to get his magic level up and his am training on as soon as possible  and he did his job wery well he got may good  plunders and he never farmed only trained and trained  youu all can see what his  kiling ratio is .. so you all suck it up and stop flaming  around  like you never famred or never bought each other s  resources to feed some  meb er a little  i will never  believe that all kingdoms have farmers ...

@Pirate...I never get deleted in my entire VU life. Eras back, we fed better than you guys. :) And eras back we played in the same internet shop. But you can ask Zeta why my members got deleted, Im sure its not because of cross logging alone. This game interface changed, walls removed, production tweaked, etc.. all because there were someone who can play the game in a different way. :D

This era, I never ordered my kingdom to do anything you think we did in the past. I never got my old members back into playing interest again, so it is impossible that we are doing it again. ;)  It is sad to know you still consider this kingdom the rebellious kingdom of the past. but its ok. :)

Anyway! about all the accusations of feeding this era, we never do that in an extent just to get in the charts, we can do that anytime. City SWAPPING??? Come on! Is that the best thing someone can pull to degrade once kingdom?

We never city swapped with Music. Why not ask Music?

@Lord Deno and FATE,
If FATE warned you that we are nap breaking because they suspect us of land swapping, why does FATE asked you (HIV) to stop us? FATE asking you to make us stop? Come on! FATE NAP breaks then! FATE should have raise this matter to me, before anything else. And you being a kingdom honorable enough not to do something bad, why dont your leaders approach me to discuss this matter to me?

You look at things but not in all aspects, mate. why not just tell me what you think and let's settle this to the admin. huh!

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We never city swapped with Music. Why not ask Music?

Hilarious.... perhaps Bluelight should return Dropkick's city to Music then.

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@Lord Deno and FATE,
If FATE warned you that we are nap breaking because they suspect us of land swapping, why does FATE asked you (HIV) to stop us? FATE asking you to make us stop? Come on! FATE NAP breaks then! FATE should have raise this matter to me, before anything else. And you being a kingdom honorable enough not to do something bad, why dont your leaders approach me to discuss this matter to me?

You look at things but not in all aspects, mate. why not just tell me what you think and let's settle this to the admin. huh!

Fate does not need HIV to stop MAD. Fate would have no problems stopping MAD on its own.

lol wut