Forums / In game politics / Fantasia era of Mzzery

Let's be honest here and cut the BS...most of your kingdom does not even bother trying to hide the fact you townswapped, and I'll give you credit for at least being honest:

phh my English  grammar is really shit .lol  but who cares i speak  5 languages but cant write correctly in none of them :P lol  don’t need the writing just the speaking .

yeah...

last era when i was with domi vs 5 kgdm,

bow, rebirth, LH, KoBW, RoC, ... they all town swapped the hell out of their cities to try to stop us... this happens every era,

when we complained about it, no buddy gave a crap, and all sort of dirty tricks were pulled including multi-ing till era end...

that is they way VU is built, these dirty tricks will get used by everyone.

I still consider myself new to this game, but ever era i see some sort of feeding happening and other people asking other kgdms to take their cities... (My fav era win was last era though... mzz mzzery and Yarlin, are all skill and worked their ass off, i dont care what anyone says)

The same people that were part of the city swapping last era against us, are now complaining about this era... (not everyone ofc, but some)

FATE, i have so much respect for you guys, well most of you that i know and have dealt with or simply seen how you play, but in my opinion if you go back to the begining of the era, you napping MAD was a must, with music and domi warring you and LDK... you had to nap them or else the fate of fate could have been different, (maybe not) but it is smart to nap them.. they are skilled players too. I just dont know how you can blame someone for taking another persons city when they get asked to take it? yes it sucks, but if someone tells me take my city, i am not going to say no, idont care why they want to give it up...

So all this complaining happens every era, and you will see it happen every era till you quit VU :). 

so simply stop complaining and if you want play VU, you have to accept the dirty tactics... I personally dont like them... cause they ruin the game...

i referring to the thread in general katie :) sorry, i am not point fingers. at anyone in particular... just in general

everyone has the right to complain... :)

SS, these flamewars are what keeps VU going. Without them, many people would have long-long quit.

@ zoltan these are your own words you retarded dumbass

"well i have to say it Qassim  you are some smart  one ... phh lol
i  never said that  in one word that  this was  the dwarfs role in OUR kingdom!  in fact from what i remember  from era start Niques The Mystical Priestess role was to be a mage  like his name says... ""

Wow, and I thought I was the dumbest person in VU.... :D

Go get some rest Dark.. :P

@ Doom, nope you wasn't the dumbest. IT'S ME!!! LOL!

Have you notice I'm still sitting at Bounder for many days already. So I say I'm the dumbest. Nothing have done to help my KD. Hehe....

"well i have to say it Qassim  you are some smart  one ... phh lol
i  never said that  in one word that  this was  the dwarfs role in OUR kingdom!  in fact from what i remember  from era start Niques The Mystical Priestess role was to be a mage  like his name says... ""

 i said  i  THINK !!! idiot taht means it s mi opinion  not that its a fact dumbasss !!!
and i mantioned  that it ma be a mage  smart one ! 

again self contradiction... so you didnt say that, thats a dwarfs job but you think it is... Aloysius please for your members own sake please tell them to stop posting they just make themselves seem retarted

and don’t tell me you were not  farming all era like him   because that’s no t going to work  iw you were not  farming  then why not  use your armies to stop him from farming ??

Lmao, you're saying we should of been at war with you, while we was at war with all our other enemies?  I have much respect for MAD, especially Aloy and Hilario (when hes playing), but you're just a retard.

Mr. Qassim Report 20:36:59 Feb 11th 10

btw niques how does it feel being someones bitch? saving up gold 1 billion gold that must've taken what? 250-400hrs and then just buying a guys slave and saying your going inactive

called team play :) you guys cant say much against this your leader has done it before *pokes binh* sucks yes but this is just revisitting the past it just takes a bit more effort now and people usually cba

Mr. Super Saiyan Report 06:56:15 Feb 12th 10

last era when i was with domi vs 5 kgdm, bow, rebirth, LH, KoBW, RoC, ... they all town swapped the hell out of their cities to try to stop us... this happens every era, when we complained about it, no buddy gave a crap, and all sort of dirty tricks were pulled including multi-ing till era end... that is they way VU is built, these dirty tricks will get used by everyone. I still consider myself new to this game, but ever era i see some sort of feeding happening and other people asking other kgdms to take their cities... (My fav era win was last era though... mzz mzzery and Yarlin, are all skill and worked their ass off, i dont care what anyone says) The same people that were part of the city swapping last era against us, are now complaining about this era... (not everyone ofc, but some) FATE, i have so much respect for you guys, well most of you that i know and have dealt with or simply seen how you play, but in my opinion if you go back to the begining of the era, you napping MAD was a must, with music and domi warring you and LDK... you had to nap them or else the fate of fate could have been different, (maybe not) but it is smart to nap them.. they are skilled players too. I just dont know how you can blame someone for taking another persons city when they get asked to take it? yes it sucks, but if someone tells me take my city, i am not going to say no, idont care why they want to give it up...   So all this complaining happens every era, and you will see it happen every era till you quit VU :).  so simply stop complaining and if you want play VU, you have to accept the dirty tactics... I personally dont like them... cause they ruin the game...

@Loser The Born Loser The Enforcer,

We never city swapped with Music. Dropkick gave up before Music fell, it was originally for me but Im not so active this era, I usually login once a day. We are too greedy that's why we took it. We never asked him. :)

Your role is clear Zoltan.

I'm going to turn you into landfill.

Shifting from Lew to Qassim... ;)

This is all for you alone and I need a flaming reply... *wink* *wink*

You speak like you know english very well, But Im sorry, Im not good in english. So, try looking at your last 5post here again and give as an example how good you are to say we need to review our english too. :)

Im sorry again, but I cant get rid of ret@rds (like you, oops!) in my kingdom, because we need the likes of you (and me ofc), or rather we need ret@rds to counter ret@rds of other kingdoms too. ;)

And about some of my lady members getting involve in your natural name-calling spree. I asked you to stop it, you know, we need to keep lady players in VU. They add spices and color to our forum. Keep your coolness, ok. :))

And all the things you said in your post about extreme COORDINATION and team play... all I can say there is you are not-that-a-good team player that's why you cant stop from replying our ret@rd post.

And If you want me to stop my members here in posting, make a new thread and tell the admin to replace the reply button with an epic fail button, ok.

PS. Lew... if ever you will visit my place irl (if ever only ^_^), I will be happy to tour you and tell how I did my little ways of promoting this game to my real physical living friends (not because I like to play dirty).

@ aloysius

i never said i was good in english :), just saying people should make sense when they say something and im not the only one who didnt understand what he tried saying... maybe you can explain to me what hes trying to say there

"MAD rules.  Ancient Basio is the slave lord and should be jailed for trafficing.  City swapping ain't a crime but we didn't anway.  MAD is so dirty they should be in detention but MAD is innocent.  MAD is good.  MAD is a real fun kingdom.  don't  hating. :)"

i dont even think that the person i was name calling is a girl seeing as your members refer to niques as a guy
"  from era start Niques The Mystical Priestess role was to be a mage  like his name says... ", "he rather  spends it on  helping his kingdom"

lol keep your members posting here, you would be doing them a favour  my asking them to stop... since all they manage to do here is contradict themselves and one another

believe me if we want to feed one of our members we can, i guess we just have different idea's of how this game should be played and how we should fight our wars :).

when can i expect your reply? :D *wink* *wink*

SADNESS!!!

Only three post??? :(

@Path, my post is not addressed to you, sorry. but its ok to voice out your opinion. ;)

@Qassim, we really never feed our members. Its not in our era plan to do that, and if our Lady Niques bought some slaves there, it was not planned and all she post here was true, she was swmi-active and have nothing to do with the gold she saved for XXX days. Anyway, it was a low-profile feeding method from the method I used to know. :) and I cant make you believe me, so Happy Valentines day instead! :-*

So much complaining in one thread...

"last era when i was with domi vs 5 kgdm,

bow, rebirth, LH, KoBW, RoC, ... they all town swapped the hell out of their cities to try to stop us... this happens every era,"

when 3 kds are more or less piled on each other and have the same enemy, then its best that the blockers and armories are distributed in the most efficient way. I don´t approve of feeding, but I still took a armory from karac and later gave it to endless (I think) when my armies where not needed at that place anymore. Feeding occurs when you take a economy city.

And RoC was never part of the "anti-dom" alliance or what you wanna call it, even if some had relations with them.

different ryan, we don't really care about you tbh.

yuh, was Ryan teh Crazynoob i was thinking about :-P

For any who are interested, MAD is still feeding.  This time was their dwarf "Beer" doing the feeding yesterday.  Maybe other their dwarves fed at the same time, I'm not really sure.  Beer was the one buying ~200+ gold slaves with 3-4 days left in the round though.  These dwarves in MAD have done nothing but feed all age.  Two of them have zero history and were likely just made this age as market feeder multies as part of some kingdom sponsored market exploitation plan.

http://visual-utopia.com/family.asp?ruler=74366
http://visual-utopia.com/family.asp?ruler=74321

-Mr. Splendor, member of Mad Against Drugs has won 1 battles (100%) and captured 1 cities. He has 7 cities with a total of around 383,000 buildings.
-Mr. Beer, member of Mad Against Drugs has won 1 battles (50%) and captured 1 cities. He has 6 cities with a total of around 353,000 buildings.
-Ms. Niques The Mystical Priestess, member of Mad Against Drugs has won 1 battles (10%) and captured 1 cities. She has 9 cities with a total of around 420,000 buildings.

I suppose this fits what MAD said in this topic earlier. The only use for dwarves they saw was as market feeders. Considering I have caught them doing this twice within a week, they've likely been doing it all age.  When they feed some skilless player like Basio, fine..no big deal.  But when good players start getting fed by likely multi dwarves,  then it's not good for the game.  There hasn't been much of this going on in recent rounds, but I wonder if it will become a larger issue in the coming rounds. 

Its not a difficult exploit to do.  If it continues next round, people will obviously retaliate using the same exploit.  The problem is that there are much better kingdoms out there who could do a much better job at feeding gold to much better players.  If this happens, the retaliatory fed player destroys MAD and then what?  They turn against another kingdom and the fed player BS continues.

It seems to me that the easiest and best way to combat this without exploiting in return is to make a pact to keep destroying kingdoms who do this kind of crap earlier in the round.  Early in the round more people are active on the market and feeding is very difficult.  That obviously means war them, and NAP (temporary if necessary) their enemies to ensure the job is completed.  After speaking with a few of the large kingdoms, people tend to agree with this with regards to MAD at least.


Im sure some MAD people will come here and make up a lot of lies to attempt to cover up their exploiting.  They will say those dwarves are new players they got to join the game.  These new players were apparently told to go dwarf and do nothing but feed up their top elves using the slave market.  Now, that may very well be true.  You can believe that if you wish to.  However, the overwhelming evidence, lies and admission of their exploiting this round tends to make me expect the worst from them.

One last thing....

@Anonymous, in your posts you seem to support and agree with market feeding as a tactic.  Should we expect the same out of AoA next era?  Because I honestly don't care about killing any particular kingdom.  I just don't want this to continue.

@Path - interesting reading what you saying; saw a player earlier from another large KD suggesting it may be a 'team playing' technique; it seems that without VU admin getting something about it (fixing prices or something else) most KDs will inherit the strategy (such as Orcs drop landing strategy) in a need to be able to fight much stronger players who are already doing it.

Love it.