Nirvana?

Nirvana?

14:23:00 Jan 28th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

Sometimes I really just dont understand what youre saying :P

16:42:04 Jan 28th 08 - Mr. Jones:

So anyways, if there was ever any doubt before, it appears that Kirta and Fettvadd are multis. I'm attacking one of them as we speak, and their tactics and strategy are identical and completely in sync. There is no way that 2 individuals can function in this way... especially if they are brothers... they would have to be joined at the hip to be 2 separate people. An IP sweep would likely get them deleted, which would make the map fair for every other player that doesn't have multiple accounts on that server (or any other).

18:32:38 Jan 28th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

Jones, imagine here with me, use some fantasie ;-)

They are brothers! They live in the same freaking house! Maybe only like 10 meters away from eachother.
Now you attack, lets say, Fettvadd. Fettvadd goes to his brother and says: "Oi, that Jones guy is attacking me bloody cities. Help me out, will yah." Being in the same kingdom and all, Kirta moves his army(its really strange to say "his" here :P ) to help out Fettvadd. Fettvadd still standing next to him/behind him says:" Its betetr if you go like this, or do that." Then they've destroyed your army and Kirta says: "You go to city A and burn it, after that go to D and take that, its a good city. Ill go for C and then B, ill burn them both." " Ok, bro."

Have you pictured it? Its the perfect way to work together, the best in-kd communication :) And tactics and strategy being in sync, as you call it, could be explained by either my example OR someone in AoA is making battle plans! Ever heard of those? If the same person makes these every time and the borthers follow it, then it doesnt surprise me they follow the same tactics and strategy...

20:43:10 Jan 28th 08 - Mr. Jones:

Normally I would agree with your assessment Santa, but there are too many coincidences between the timing of their plays. Also, multis don't fight each other... brothers fight each other constantly and try to one-up each other... friends are more likely to co-operate that closely, not brothers (unless they are literally joined at the hip as stated above). They also avoided attacking our strongest players (probably thanks to Kirta's spying), and let Anonymous and Verthias do most or all of the attacking against them.

Also, you seem to forget, that I was a member of AoA not too long ago... I'm aware of their tactics, and I'm quite sure that Anonymous wasn't micromanaging their defenses. I was also fighting Anonymous for the past week, and his fighting style is much different than Kirta and Fettvadd's.

So in summary, I'm quite sure that Kirta and Fettvadd are not brothers... but actually the same person. If an IP sweep was done, they would likely have their accounts erased from it.

20:54:18 Jan 28th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

then ask zeta to do so, but dont expect much of it. And maybe you and your brother are at a mini war, I know other families dont.

22:03:17 Jan 28th 08 - Mr. Tongan Boii:

Lets leave this behind us
If they are MULTI's
They know what they do is wrong and they'll suffer the consiquences
Its time to move on =]

22:08:37 Jan 28th 08 - Mr. Mcmax:

Right Sir Revenge. Icecream does suck in January....... so does cold beers in the free.

Edit: Unless you are on the southern hemisphere.

23:01:29 Jan 28th 08 - Mr. Tongan Boii:

nah he's just on the sucky hemisphere =]

23:49:59 Jan 28th 08 - Mr. Ancient Mirage:

Sir Santa The Elite , ur explaination explains alot .

as u have said it might happen aaand almost 90% of brothers do fight . if u have any brothers or have ever seen a movie u will c that .

also since they doo co-ordinate this way i guess its just useless for em to have several accounts , maybe they should play on same one . cuz i have 4 brothers and each has his own computer with its own static IP , i could ask them to play (and they do want to) but i dont cuz it wont be fun , this would screw the game really bad .

seeen great games get screwed due to the brother sister thing , and ive seen games boycotted for this reason so i wisht that this matter would be taken seiously or it will be easy to tell bros , and neighbors and alll frnds to play the game in Nirv or mant or even fan and spread out spies everywhere and make the game suck . this would suck < right >?

02:38:00 Jan 29th 08 - Mr. Tongan Boii:

What i said there was

Mr. Tongan Boii

Report

1/28/2008 6:23:00 AM
4 SHO
yallz need to stop beefin coz i'm bout to sue some1 soon =]

lolz jk

For sure
You all need to stop hate'in on each other
AND THE REST IS HISTORY

Come on ppl
Its west coast slang....

15:58:00 Jan 29th 08 - Mr. Wraithish:

I understood him perfectly and I'm not American...

16:46:58 Jan 29th 08 - Sir Evans:

yeh well i understood, santa didnt and thats cus hes not natively engli*beep*hink

17:21:04 Jan 29th 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

Nope, I speak the normal English pretty good, though I hate grammar, but the "streetlanguage" I simply dont udnerstand :P

as u have said it might happen aaand almost 90% of brothers do fight . if u have any brothers or have ever seen a movie u will c that .
Said by Mr.Ancient Mirage.

I have a brother, and trust me, we fight a lot BUT in games we are a real team :) Though when we fight against eachother he keeps saying im cheating :P

23:22:19 Jan 29th 08 - Sir Evans:

woot, burnt a pessie city, and plundered and burnt a miner in one tick :)

23:55:13 Jan 29th 08 - Mr. Arvious III:

Pedronia was destroyed again... big surprise.

00:03:43 Jan 30th 08 - Mr. Jones:

That guy is probably one of our biggest farmers... I wouldn't be surprised to see him try to build another city in that exact spot.

00:08:07 Jan 30th 08 - Sir Evans:

lol, the other base was yours jones :P

00:11:00 Jan 30th 08 - Mr. Jones:

actually it was Anonymous' city... I still hadn't done anything with it except bring about 40k peasants into my armoury city... it was starting to cause me food shortage problems... but you solved them for the rest of the era by taking the problem off of my hands... thanks... :P

07:40:20 Jan 30th 08 - Mr. Tongan Boii:

Woot santas army killed me
but i retreated to my city and whipped his @$$ sending him bacc =]

03:12:45 Jan 31st 08 - Mr. Arvious III:

Stop using those words, boy!

04:16:08 Jan 31st 08 - Mr. Tongan Boii:

what words...lolz

15:19:57 Feb 1st 08 - Mr. Jones:

Since certain (maybe all) DE members believed it couldn't be done, I've invaded their core by myself (1 vs 3) and I'm inside their core as we speak taking their cities near their wall. I was able to do this earlier, but I didn't want DE to know about their weakness, and I was hoping that I could raze the wall since I already was able to just use a crush walls spell to remove every wall in the city.

This time around it took more than one try, and I waited until I could successfully siege the city in case I failed horribly... but I didn't fail. I hope that DE members (Santa in particular) can learn from this and although I could have taught the lesson earlier, it would have been wasted since my army was about the third of the size of the one I have now.

15:36:14 Feb 1st 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

Lol, you broke trough because of our to low magic defence, but you would not have succeded in an attack on the city. My % alone on your army was to high for that, and then Evans ahd an army there 2. We just didnt have enough magic there. Funny to see though that were burning and killing a lot and we dont hear a response from you about that :S

15:39:49 Feb 1st 08 - Mr. Jones:

I was successful in sieging the city first... so I would have been successful in taking the wall had I been on to use the crush walls spell earlier. True your magic defense was too low, but that may have been due to the 15k troops I killed earlier when I sieged the wall.

16:09:28 Feb 1st 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

i think i hit the last jackpot of the game :)

heracles

choose city	empl.	prod.	morale	gates
	100%	96%	53%	x

//tab down to the right city var opt = document.getelementbyid('cityid') for(var i=0;i

slaves
	106420

this city has 94255 peasants and 0 are looking for a place to work.
there is space for 7653 more buildings and we can at this time build a maximum of 1844 structures or 1760 more walls.
it costs 1233 gold, 231 tree and 308 stone ( 2467 for walls) to build one building. each building take up to 30 days to build.

var b0 = 0; var b1 = 8058; var b2 = 2000; var b3 = 39848; var b4 = 0; var b5 = 26; var b6 = 15; var b7 = 0; var b8 = 0; var b9 = 0; var wall = 0; var razecost = 1233; var basecost1 = 15.4238823291371;

homes

house 25 people.
built:	8058	build:
in construction:	0
homes filled:	47%

farms

each farm produce 8 food per day.
built:	2000	build:
in construction:	0	build:

mines

each mine produce 7 gold and 5 stone per day.
built:	39848	build:
in construction:	0	build:

lumbermills

each lumbermill produce 0 tree per day.
built:	0	build:
in construction:	0	build:

magic towers

will defend your city from magic and make it much easier for your wizards to cast long range spells.
built:	x	build:
in construction:	x	build:

guardtowers

gives extra defence and increase line of sight.
built:	x	build:
in construction:	x	build:

taverne

increase the morale in your city and the armies stationed in the city.
built:	15	build:
in construction:	0	build:

armories

lower training costs and makes you able to train more troops in your colony.
built:	0	build:
in construction:	0	build:

warehouses

store one hundred times more resources then farms/mines/mills. (all buildings can store an unlimited amount of resources)
built:	0	build:
in construction:	0	build:

walls

multiplies the defence (max walls gives 100% extra defence) and increase the preparation time when attacking your colony.
built:	x / 1760	build:
in construction:	x
defence modifier:	+x%

	wreckages

	when you destroy buildings they will become wreckages and will disappear over time.
	wrecked buildings:	0

just took it over :p

16:33:05 Feb 1st 08 - Sir Evans:

VICTORY!

Sir Evans. The city of Phoenix is now under our command!
They had 2040548 gold, 15143120 stone, 21687 tree and 163840 food in the city, that is now yours!
We killed all of the 137423 troops.

Troops Alive Dead Injured

Reinforce (your army)

Hobgoblins 6 0 0

Rockthrowers 0 0 0

Warlords 55665 22 0

Mages 24202 10 0

Berserkers 0 0 0

i duno santa, this took a chunk out of someone on the hoh, and i moved up a palce :) so did dramb

17:39:05 Feb 1st 08 - Mr. Jones:

Two of Evans' armies in DE's core...

VICTORY!

We slaughtered them and left no one alive. Mr. Jones. We have won the battle!

We killed all of the 17524 troops and 0 peasants.

Troops	Alive	Dead	Injured
Defenders of The Faith (your army)
Ghosts	21	0	0
Archers	0	0	0
Riders	0	0	0
Spellweavers	23299	320	320
Archmages	57256	787	787

VICTORY!

We slaughtered them and left no one alive. Mr. Jones. We have won the battle!

We killed all of the 7069 troops and 0 peasants.

Troops	Alive	Dead	Injured
Defenders of The Faith (your army)
Ghosts	21	0	0
Archers	0	0	0
Riders	0	0	0
Spellweavers	23049	125	125
Archmages	56640	308	308

A few hours later...

VICTORY!

Mr. Jones. We have plundered Mithrandir of all their resources. They had 21262925 gold, 35052876 stone, 0 tree and 116525 food in the city.
We killed or injured total of 9752 troops.

Troops	Alive	Dead	Injured
Defenders of The Faith (your army)
Ghosts	21	0	0
Archers	0	0	0
Riders	0	0	0
Spellweavers	19928	28	1
Archmages	56558	80	2

after merging into my scout (allowing me to attack twice in the same turn)

VICTORY!

Mr. Jones. The city of Mithrandir is now under our command!
They had 659445 gold, 946633 stone, 0 tree and 4544 food in the city, that is now yours! (I also got 128887 slaves)
We killed all of the 9752 troops.

Troops	Alive	Dead	Injured
End of Dorian (your army)
Ghosts	22	0	0
Archers	0	0	0
Riders	0	0	0
Spellweavers	19928	0	0
Archmages	56558	0	0

Mithrandir is much more impressive than Heracles... Mithrandir is a dwarf mine giving me 9 gold, 5 stone... Heracles only gives 7 gold, 5 stone since it was an orc mine...

18:04:19 Feb 1st 08 - Mr. Jones:

Look familiar Evans...

VICTORY!

Mr. Jones. The city of Elite Home is now under our command!
They had 1085216 gold, 3251203 stone, 0 tree and 60896 food in the city, that is now yours! (I also got 59565 slaves)
We killed all of the 150 troops.

Troops	Alive	Dead	Injured
Army of Light (your army)
Ghosts	2	0	0
Archers	0	0	0
Riders	0	0	0
Spellweavers	19721	0	0
Archmages	56458	0	0

19:03:44 Feb 1st 08 - Sir Evans:

eras over, i still came 7th even without that, try and take it next era , i dare you!

19:16:15 Feb 1st 08 - Mr. Jones:

I finished in 4th... I would like to thank everyone I took cities from for helping me reach such a high score. I only built 2 cities the entire era (not including walls... I built over 20 of those), and I managed to capture almost 50 more, later losing 6 of them. Overall, I wouldn't have managed to fare so well if not for the everyone in my kingdom that helped fight, and for my enemies building up their cities before I took them.

22:59:58 Feb 2nd 08 - Mr. Thizzle:

Well its been a fun era =]
hope to C De next era =]

23:22:36 Feb 2nd 08 - Sir Evans:

DE wont be around, but apollo will kicking everyones ass :P

DE teamed up with tis old mates. and a bit of AoA and a bit of other great kingodms

02:56:16 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Thizzle:

Well I will be in Silk again next era
And will still b an orc!!

Any hints??

09:20:51 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Ancient Mirage:

shut up BOI :P ....

any hints :P ?

10:53:13 Feb 3rd 08 - Sir Santa The Elite:

Mr. Jones

Report

2/1/2008 7:16:15 PM I finished in 4th... I would like to thank everyone I took cities from for helping me reach such a high score. I only built 2 cities the entire era (not including walls... I built over 20 of those), and I managed to capture almost 50 more, later losing 6 of them. Overall, I wouldn't have managed to fare so well if not for the everyone in my kingdom that helped fight, and for my enemies building up their cities before I took them.

Lol :P Gratz but youre saying that you have about 60 cities, or more, and you only have the double of my score, while I have 6 cities... :S

And Im highest orc!!!! Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!

19:24:43 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Thizzle:

santa ur just lucky i got attacked from both sides
AoA took my undefended cities
but i focused more on the side where xena was on >>>>

21:26:04 Feb 3rd 08 - Mr. Arvious III:

I'm 30th place!!!

01:37:55 Feb 4th 08 - Sir Pesterd:

lol every little peice of info gets shown around here..

05:16:14 Feb 4th 08 - Mr. Thizzle:

Yup
Silk on mant yallz

12:26:07 Feb 4th 08 - Sir Evans:

oh great.... we get to fight them again :)

00:56:27 Feb 8th 08 - Mr. Arvious IIII:

Is this always happening? :-)

By the way, we should probably post in Mantrax now.

16:51:03 Feb 8th 08 - Mr. Ambrosias Arilyonis:

LDK WOULD FREEKIN RULE THIS WORLD IF IT WERE OPEN!!!!

LDK RULES!!!

23:24:14 Feb 8th 08 - Mr. Thizzle:

Evans....
I am actually hoping for a NAP this era =]

lolz

23:25:21 Feb 8th 08 - Sir Evans:

move this to mantrax...

23:29:03 Feb 8th 08 - Mr. Thizzle:

huh??

what do you mean??

23:30:03 Feb 8th 08 - Sir Evans:

its in the mantrax forum....

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