Forums / In game politics / Dorian Empire Dishonorable???

Sir Evans of Sparta [DE] (2/11/2009 1:59:59 PM)  
Sir Bane,
I ask your intentions and plan or action seens you of placement in the middle of our kingdom.
We wish to off you an NAP, so that we do not need to fight.
You (2/11/2009 6:23:35 PM)
Sir Evans of Sparta,
Please allow me to discuss with my ruleing counsel about what our best corse of action would be concerning this matter and I will contact you with our decision within 24 ticks.

Respectfuly, Sir Bane 

Sir Jadbalja Report 2/12/2009 8:59:50 AM

I guess they decided against a NAP as soon as they got their armies to my cities. 03:00:45: Peace Cows lead by Sir Santa of Macedon attacked and took over Never Say Die. Our peasants managed to escape with all the resources to War Machine. We lost 0 Gaia, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Ogres, 0 Shamans, 0 Nazguls and 0 peasants in the battle. 03:00:45: Our Jadbalja lifeguards failed to defend Never Say Die. Peace Cows lead by Sir Santa of Macedon attacked and took over Never Say Die. We lost 50 Gaia, 0 Hammerthrowers, 100 Ogres, 200 Shamans, 14 Nazguls and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured. 03:00:45: All troops in Jadbalja lifeguards have died! 03:34:53: Spejder IV lead by Mr. Hephaistos From Lemnos attacked and took over Paranoid. Our peasants managed to escape with all the resources to War Machine. We lost 0 Gaia, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Ogres, 0 Shamans, 0 Nazguls and 0 peasants in the battle. You (2/12/2009 2:09:26 AM) I this the way you conduct a NAP request? Should I take this as a sneak attack or a misguided member of your kingdom? Peace Cows owned by Sir Santa of Macedon[DE] are preparing an attack on Never Say Die Jadbalja War Pigs Sir Evans of Sparta [DE] (2/12/2009 2:59:16 AM) ill talk to him Sir Evans of Sparta [DE] (2/12/2009 3:09:08 AM) im afraid we must reconsider, santa is my vice so not misguided... testing the water before the NAP as led us to beleive we have changed our mind You (2/12/2009 3:15:25 AM) That's cool, just shows the true caliber of player you are. Sir Evans of Sparta [DE] (2/12/2009 3:27:52 AM) why cus we attacked when no NAP was set, no just changed our mind. you knew we surrounded you, best bet woulda been to jump at our offer

7 and a half ticks after I replyed that we would have an answer in 24 ticks they started attacking. Now in our KD when we are in talks for a Nap we don't attack them and they could have at least messaged and said that they no longer wanted a Nap before attacking us.

This is just another example of how the many KD's of this game have fallen into a state on no honor and no respect what so ever. I can see now why Death Proof  quit.

Epic falure, DE. Cosmic shame. 

Well I know what he means.
and this can be something like a screw up too.

when you are in someone else his core and nap negociations are going on there is sort of ceasefire :P but not everyone holds to such things.

so one way its the fault of the defender but other way its not nice what DE did.
well everyone would have his own toughts on this :P

you should merge with us... lol
were against DE.

one thing.. id like to warn you about Pigger.. hes a snake..
yours was his 4th KD in this era..

please charley drop out. you dont know anything about the game so go play with dolls...

Yes Evans shown now that hes truly dishonourable .

I'm not the leadership of DE, so I didn't knew about any possible deal.

But anyway - in the position WP had, they didn't have to discuss anything.

Only an instant YES counts here - else........

Who would let them have 24 hours to "discuss" other possibilities such as building up defences while discussing an alliance with some other kingdom - in this case it could have been a MAP with MAD or DMC.... or both???

Demonslayer John Berkeley

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2/13/2009 5:24:08 AMThere was no NAP...you were only "talking."  This has happened before with other KDs...

Yes but they offered the Nap.. So you would think he would not attack until they have replied... but in this case Evans just used it because he was either worried he would die or he just likes to piss people off

nate shut up. not your arguement. Call me dishonourable i dont care anymore, people who have played on my side know im not and every era i get argued with and called dishonourable. This era i cant be bothered. we offered something we expected to be taken straight away, being surrounded by the strongest at the time kingdom on that map generally means accept or get taken out.

We didnt have time to wait as the three ppl pushing in on us know that we are struggling a lil so we need to take everything we can.

Not argueing , dont care to be honest

errr guys this is a war game soooo you would expect some fighting to happen and lets face it if you spawn in some ones core then its ither NAP from the go or you should expect a attack (just my 2 cents)

omg the impossible has happend! Hilario spoke some words i agree with *runs off to take cover from the rapture*

So Ryan, tell me if I got this straight. Some of our members have gone around our back telling how they found us dishonourable. Well, if thats their opinion, thats fine. But they should have the guts and honour to say it to us, rather then go around our backs. So those you are referring to are currently dishouring themselves by their cowardice. But hey, thats just my dishonourable opinion ;)

DE is not dishonourable they are a good kingdom

If they didn't mean it, they shouldn't have said it ;)

And Ryan, Calibus has shown to not live up to our standards. Thats not the problem, he could've been taught. But he is also ignorant of the forums and everyhting happening around him. Evans posted a post directed at him in the kdforum to see if he would respons as a last "test". He never responded.

Yes DE standards are very high, and will be kept that way.

and that is based on what?

Sir Evans of Sparta [DE] (2/12/2009 3:09:08 AM)
im afraid we must reconsider, santa is my vice so not misguided... testing the water before the NAP as led us to beleive we have changed our mind

Santa thats a lie.

your first two attacks were 5 minutes before the message got sent.

• 03:00:45: Peace Cows lead by Sir Santa of Macedon attacked and took over Never Say Die. Our peasants managed to escape with all the resources to War Machine. We lost 0 Gaia, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Ogres, 0 Shamans, 0 Nazguls and 0 peasants in the battle.
• 03:00:45: Our Jadbalja lifeguards failed to defend Never Say Die. Peace Cows lead by Sir Santa of Macedon attacked and took over Never Say Die. We lost 50 Gaia, 0 Hammerthrowers, 100 Ogres, 200 Shamans, 14 Nazguls and 0 peasants in the battle and 0 of our soldiers got injured.

Ryan, why would i want to lead inactives... no point they dont help.. you need no skill to lead an inactive anyway cus they dont do anything.
As for those lacking experience, we have three of those, one who never played before this era... theyre doing better than a lot of other nubs ive seen. So perhaps not eh?
the only people i get rid of are those that either ....dont communicate or farm. Or worse those that communicate in a bad way, ignore all advice even tho it would help them improve and always think theyre right...

So no i dont just get rid of those that cant play i help them, its the ones that cant play and refuse help i get rid of :P

Anyhow, I dont see you leading a kingdom ?

Ps. Me and Dram are both in university, so dont tell us to go back to school...
Pps. Your in a 13 man kingdom with 6 leaders... and you say we have bad leadership...half your KD is leadership...

@ Rayn. That is what I call a backward argument. You take for granted that all the members do live up to the high standards. Most do, but some need to learn a few things. Those who are lost cases are cut lose. =)

Why btw are you so picky?  Fighting us? or just trying to make us feel bad? and please dont tell me to go back to school because it makes you sound so childish.

Hilario, a (co)leader should not be chosen for his loyalty or the time he has spent with the group. No, it should be his skill and character that decides his ranking and status. For example: Dramborleg has fought by my side for as long as I can remember. And his character is simply great, one of the best you'll find in this game and highly underappreciated by the public at large. However, I feel that making him a viceroy would not change anything and therefor he is still an, although highly appreciated, ordinary member.
Considering we are still alive and thriving against more than 200% of our own strength, I think we could say that were doing more than an ok-job so far ;)

I like you :)

I was pre-occupied yesterday so I need to make up today with the VU population.

Seloc, did I tell you how good you look? :)

on topic: he probably should have given you a 1 to 2 tick warning, but its war and you still should have been rdy for a attack.

off topic: oh oh join my kd!!!!!!!!!!!!!

um... notice the MR... and thank you!

just go and rub Rudolph... :)

Therefor I will not start an arguement here with you for it will only lead to tensions among players who could very well become friends in the future.

LOL! It happened many times to me. My archenemy being my friend. ^^

hey this reminds me of the devastators!exact same situation, we were negotiating a NAP, and the vice crushed me while me and the leader were negotiating!