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17:27:03 May 7th 10 - Lady Quietone:

sorry that i'm not blind to the fact that what was posted here was clearly a few people in Fate picking and choosing who they want to win the era from their own kingdom and clearly trying to prevent others from taking towns.

you can color it anyway you want to TBL and you can flame me all you want to but the fact still remains the same- everyone in a kingdom that is winning deserves a chance to win the era - everyone knows that its not always the person who is most deserving that always wins.  But to blantely tell your own kd mates do not take any more towns etc because you want one specific player to win is a low blow- and regardless of what is being said about Freddy or what issues they had with him those posts pretty much say it all

now i am so tired of you jumping on me everytime i post anything TBL you think you keep jumping its going to run me off? get over yourself already

 


17:30:31 May 7th 10 - Chancellor Ademo The Cranky Biatch:

  But to blantely tell your own kd mates do not take any more towns etc because you want one specific player to win is a low blow-

We did NOT say that on any official level. People are allowed to have opinions on who they think deserves to win, but we never told Freddy to stop taking cities so Nova would win. That was also not the reason he was removed.

You can stop posting now since you obviously have no clue and if you don't like TBL jumping on you then maybe you shouldn't post so much crap.


17:36:39 May 7th 10 - Lady Quietone:

I didnt comment on why he was or wasnt removed the conversation clearly shows you guys saying that your own kds mates are trying for the top spot and it was pissing you off because you wanted yarlin to win-- he himself said he was told to not take towns-  now is he lying? then say he's lying but why bash me for it i didnt cause the situation lol

you guys want him to win it's clear- i personally like the guy and wished him luck but you guys have some big ego issues and not accepting the reality that you're pretty greedy and controlling your damn self- like i said a win for the kingdom is a win for the kingdom that convo that was posted unless it was edited falsely shows that you guys clearly were going out of your way to make sure it was him and not someone else in your kingdom- now if me saying that deserves the flames then please continue..


17:37:04 May 7th 10 - Clown Penguin Idontgiveasharp:

Hey faggot, sup ?


17:37:22 May 7th 10 - Lord Stormcrow:

@Fate: lol why bother guys. This is the VU forums, where half-lies, twisted truths, assumptions, and ambiguity rule the day^^



HAAAAIIIIII Venomz>:D


17:37:37 May 7th 10 - Mr. Most Likely Die:

you guys aren't denying it yet... isn't this a form of feeding?


17:38:44 May 7th 10 - Clown Penguin Idontgiveasharp:

Hey guardian angel, sup?


17:39:01 May 7th 10 - Lord Stormcrow:

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17:39:52 May 7th 10 - Clown Penguin Idontgiveasharp:

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17:45:13 May 7th 10 - Chancellor Ademo The Cranky Biatch:

We told him to hold back on taking so many towns so that some of his KDmates (not Nova, who was on the other side of the map) could SHARE the spoils they'd ALL worked so hard for, instead of 1 person getting them all (or the majority of them). That comes back to teamplay.. Something he was lacking.

If you're all greedy fucks in your KD, that's fine, but don't even try to judge us based on your own backwards, fucked up morals (or lack thereof).

Please show me how we were going "out of our way" to get Nova to win? We expressed a PERSONAL preference of who we'd like to win. People can't have opinion in your KD?

Penguin - You calling me a faggot is about as redundant as me calling you a hopeless moron.


17:46:13 May 7th 10 - Mr. Most Likely Die:

i do think its funny that the most succesful kingdom this era has had 3 deserters... i wonder why this is? only silly people with small dicks would think that Fate was the problem.. that would just be silly.. i mean telling people to move aside and let another member take everything couldent possibly be the truth thats blasphemy! It would be Crazy to say that they purposefully kept nap partners out so that Yarlin could get more cities.. that would just be crazy talk..


17:47:36 May 7th 10 - Mr. Tossed Smiling Midget:

Come on Q, how can you seriously take that exert from a convo that occurred a week ago, in which a couple of people are discussing their desire for a particular person to win the era, to mean that the whole kingdom is systematically choosing people to win an era.? All 30 members of Fate are allowed to express their opinions on Skype or by other means but that doesn't mean that they are expressing the wishes of the kingdom as a whole.. 


Yarlin and Freddy never operated in the same area of the map. The difference was the way they played for the kingdom. One did and one didn't. Its pretty simple really.


17:50:29 May 7th 10 - Mr. The Born Loser:

Yeah Quiet One, you were not blind - as a matter of fact, after only 3 posts in the thread (two from Freddy himself, and one from a non Fantasia player), you were so confident of your read on the situation (without the benefit of any Fate leader providing their version of the matter) to be able to make the following comment:


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19:52:44 May 7th 10

Low blow Fate- Everyone in a kingdom deserves a chance to win the era- you dont keep good players by forcing them to sit back let a chosen one win - true colors shining thru?


and becoming the first person to immediately try to take advantage of an internal situation within Fate by launching a negative flame / PR war against them (Fate) on a matter that is absolutely none of yours (or others) fvcking concern.

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23:27:03 May 7th 10

and regardless of what is being said about Freddy or what issues they had with him those posts pretty much say it all


Yeah absolutely. Those posts - 2 from Freddy, one from Sun Jian, says it all. Way to fvcking go O Wise One - I never knew you were capable of passing such magnificent judgement on a situation so swiftly and presciently. You remind me of a certain George Dubya Bush fellow that was able to "conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt" that another country has "weapons of mass destruction" based on just a piece of paper. I wonder what sick and sad intentions such quick judgement fulfills, eh.

You are seriously one-sided in your mentality, your outlook and your emotions. I have no bloody clue why some very smart people love to be associated with a person of your absurd personality, but then again, I can't blame them... I have been guilty of counting some very stupid people as my friends in the past.


17:52:52 May 7th 10 - Lord Stormcrow:

HEY! I'm not stupid TBL....just a slow learner:'(


17:56:16 May 7th 10 - Lady Quietone:

TBL- you are so one sided i'm surprised you stand upright you are the last one to come at me about that- you can bet your sweet ass that if i have an opinion you are going to flame me over it- so dont bother trying to convince anyone you see anything clearly

dalak- and ademo- you guys seriously-  i'm not saying that the entire kd was in on the program but this:

[4/30/2010 6:46:22 PM] ¤ Carina // Mzzery ¤: it's bad when our own members are our biggest enemies against our era winner to win the era
[4/30/2010 6:47:27 PM] ¤ Carina // Mzzery ¤: I'll be extremely upset if his greediness takes Yarlin off the #1 spot and hands it to Elsin or something

that isnt complaining because he was taking towns from other people in the kd deserving of cities- that clearly indicates a different situation- now sorry if i dont buy it clearly there's more to it than what you're saying and sure you dont have to tell the world about your internal issues but dont get all pissed off because of the way it appears after all that is the way it appears....and based on some other comments in this thread this doesnt seem to be the only tatic that was used to make sure of the win.

Like i said - its not always the person in the kd that is most deserving that wins but a win for the kd is a win for the kd- 

 


18:06:34 May 7th 10 - Mr. The Born Loser:

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23:56:16 May 7th 10

TBL- you are so one sided i'm surprised you stand upright you are the last one to come at me about that- you can bet your sweet ass that if i have an opinion you are going to flame me over it- so dont bother trying to convince anyone you see anything clearly


Actually, I don't and can't really give a rats ass about you. As far as I am concerned, the only way you register on my radar is as toxic waste - do not touch, do not go near, and don't fvcking ever get contaminated by it. In short, avoid at all costs if possible.

However, a blatant retard like you:

i) whose kingdom has done some many questionable acts (whether rightfully or wrongly) in the past;

ii) and you were always the first to jump up, react, defend those acts with your whole heart and soul;

should learn to avoid (and stop) appearing like a two-faced snake when you comment on other kingdoms' affairs.

But then, who the hell am I kidding..... the fact that you ARE a two-faced snake and toxic waste has already been as universal as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west...


18:06:36 May 7th 10 - Clown Penguin Idontgiveasharp:

Oh but i dont mind people calling me a moron, bullshit doesnt hurt me :D and well you are just same lame-o faggot twat which shits in every corner with his idiotic talks :) please burn yourself :)


18:09:19 May 7th 10 - Mr. Doomhammer:

Oooooo, this looks fun.... lol


18:09:28 May 7th 10 - Chancellor Ademo The Cranky Biatch:

lame-o faggot? You sure i'm not a poopy head too? :)

Yes you're right on the bullshit not hurting you tho since you spew so much of it around the forums you'd have killed yourself off long ago if it did.


18:11:20 May 7th 10 - Lady Quietone:

TBL keep trying to sway the conversation and make it about me that's fine- everyone knows what lack of morals you have - it makes no difference if you're in an allied kd or not you will screw anyone connected to you for the right price or the mood your in- you have no honor and no ethics and you call me two faced? please spare us all your judgements when you are so far from anyone capable of being in a position worthy of judging anyone- you've pulled more dirty underhanded tatics than anyone i have ever witnessed before.  The fact that you clearly stalk me in every thread i've ever posted in makes it even more clear that you are the last person that speaks with an open mind or knowing the full truth about anything.


18:11:24 May 7th 10 - Fire Lord Nova The Incinerator:

*Deletes the Novel he was writing*
Bleh why bother.


18:13:15 May 7th 10 - Clown Penguin Idontgiveasharp:

oh im the bullshit cannon ZOOOOOOOOOOM KAPPPPPPPOW. BOOOOM BOOOOM BOOOM, here take that, and that , TOUCHE!


18:14:54 May 7th 10 - Mr. Tossed Smiling Midget:

That clearly indicates Carina's opinion. She and Yarlin went neck to neck a few eras ago and she just won. Since that time she has been hoping for him to win one because as we all know he is more than capable and deserving of doing so. She made the 'call' very early on that he was the favourite to win the era and was backing him all the way. She was clearly complaining that if Freddy keeps taking cities at the rate he was then he would possibly over take Yarlin. As are most of us (the era is far from over by the way). I am sorry to say there is nothing more to it.


"...and based on some other comments in this thread this doesnt seem to be the only tatic that was used to make sure of the win." Please explain this?

I am not sure why you insist on seeing something more sinister here. We have no evil plans for who wins the era or how to steal it off someone else. Obviously due to skill level and activity some of our members are more likely to have a great era than others and as such we sometimes discuss them possibly winning. How is that weird? Geez, you have a few guys that have played with us why dont you ask them about our evil ways? 

Stormy is right though, people will always see what they want to see and thats usually the reason why I avoid replying to this type of stuff.. :)


18:18:09 May 7th 10 - Clown Penguin Idontgiveasharp:

hey dorklak, i missed you.

NOT


18:19:25 May 7th 10 - Mr. Tossed Smiling Midget:

Hey Pubeguin.. I miss you a little bit.. well...maybe.


18:21:01 May 7th 10 - Mr. The Born Loser:

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00:11:20 May 8th 10

 The fact that you clearly stalk me in every thread i've ever posted in makes it even more clear that you are the last person that speaks with an open mind or knowing the full truth about anything.


LOL! What is it about you that thinks that people are actually paying attention to you?

I think people are smart enough to see that ever since the Hema version of your kingdom, and the many many posts you have made so far, I have only called you out twice. Once in this era's Fantasia thread, and this is the second time round. As I am going to reiterate... I absolutely do not give a rats ass about you unless you are fvcking around with people I care about. Then I will take my hoe-slapper paddle (thanks Endless <3) and give your bum the couple of sharp thwacks it deserves. At least I don't stomp you underfoot like the snake you are.

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00:11:20 May 8th 10

you've pulled more dirty underhanded tatics than anyone i have ever witnessed before. 


LOL! Geez, you're one to talk. Again, you remind me of that George Dubya Bush fellow - the "what you do is bad, but what I do is good" kind of mentality.

Clear cut case of retarded brain development.


18:23:44 May 7th 10 - Lady Wilber Who Loves Gary Porter:

@TBL

i) whose kingdom has done some many questionable acts (whether rightfully or wrongly) in the past;

Oh and you were around during those apparent eras? Yeah? No. So just because you looked at those threads so many eras ago, doesn't mean you know.

@FATE + Freddy

Has anyone seen Hot Fuzz? FATE reminds me of that film. Like an incestuous small village where if anyone thinks differently or messes up, they are killed. I think it's low, low as can be. Nobody "owns" the era win, just because he was a possible threat by actually doing an attackers job, you started bitching about him? Yeah, it may not be the cause of him being kicked, but still bitching about him? Then expecting him not to be pissed?

@Deno

Suprise suprise, Deno rides up on his white horse to try and defend FATEs honour! I wouldn't be suprised if you're still up to your warbook was of mass multi'ing, just to win.  Not that I know much of that game - apart from a large majority (not all) of the people who migrated to this game, are cunts - apart from what people have told me. It says something about your character doesn't it?


18:29:51 May 7th 10 - Chancellor Ademo The Cranky Biatch:

Well we fit in just fine with all the cunts (like yourself) that are already here.

Btw what part of the whole reasoning behind him being removed do you not understand? It's been explained VERY simply by several Fate members already.. Try reading.

p.s. Attackers take out blockers and armouries. Useless scum run around taking undefended cities. Wonder which category you fall into...


18:31:07 May 7th 10 - Mr. The Born Loser:

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23:52:52 May 7th 10
HEY! I'm not stupid TBL....just a slow learner:'(

<3

No worries Georgy. We all know it actually wasn't you. I actually blame your Cheney, Sean. God knows what are the things he is up to when he is behind you :P


18:33:55 May 7th 10 - Duke Random:

wilber,

I was News Network, the guy who's city they're all fighting over.

What happened was freddy skipped past a  blocker with 800k or so troops in it, left a massive hole in their core defense and went for the mines behind it. when took all our kingdoms income cities naturally our KD went on a rampage and tried to push at their core, forcing everyone else to clean up his mess and train where they shouldn't have had too, if he'd just done his job and killed the troops he was supposed to.

Also, freddy is bragging about his kills. I can tell you minimum of 20 cities in his count are from when I recaptured the ones he took and left undefended, which he then took back. As well as the fact that

he killed a 300k last ditch slinger army from Gods Zealots

I hit him with 33% (another player in the city with him) and lost about 300k troops. then suicided another 500k troops on him in order to die, mine were predominantly archers in a last ditch attempt also. he's a mighty fearful warrior.

ALSO many of the original kills are from when I had my army split into 3 places beacuse I had to defend against fate and clean up havok practically alone in my area, then I took the rest of my army and inflicted as much damage on fate as I possibly could. freddy also took alot of my  land from havok by using knight only armies with no MU to take cities before other players could get to it.

I decided to tell anica to take the city because I thought that how freddy played his attack was lame and he didn't deserve the score he was getting for simply walking past a blocker due to a mages skill and taking all the spoils of war when he clearly used 0 skill to do so.

Then when anica couldn't happiness the city it revolted on her and freddy in his greed decided to rush over to it and steal it from under her, when he'd had AMPLE spoils from his attack. very very low.

In my honest opinion fate did the right thing by kicking him.

/end


18:37:57 May 7th 10 - Mr. Most Likely Die:

kicking then taking his cities.. yeah that's some true justice there


18:43:00 May 7th 10 - Lord Deno:

@Wilber, Why dont you recruit Freddy to join Hema next era if you feal so sorry for him. I remember you and him used to be extremely tight in the Hiv Starta era. 


18:43:07 May 7th 10 - Lady Wilber Who Loves Gary Porter:

Ademo, you obviously have faaar more experience than me, you jumped up little boy.

Don't think yourself as appointed spokesman for FATE as you have no idea what you are talking about. But let me explain for you're brain-dead self.

An attackers role, is (yeah) to break blockers. However, what happens after that? Do you just sit there? No, if you cannot break the blocker, anyone with brains would try to bypass it and take the enemy mines, to ruin their econ.
What would you do, sit outside? Twiddle with your balls, while calling anyone taking stuff names? Says something about you're character too. Or maybe it's just the warbook mentality.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I hear Von Darkmoor was prepping a blocker with low odds, it got CWed and Freddy walked through, Darkmoor stayed. Then Freddy took mines and some of you're members started shitting themselves about Yarlin possibly losing.


18:53:33 May 7th 10 - Mr. Most Likely Die:

Fun day to log on to VU... im shitting on Dalaks Chest... Ademos taking it up the ass and everyone is just horny as ever.


19:28:23 May 7th 10 - Sir Panic The Forgotton:

<-- busting a nut on this thread


19:43:23 May 7th 10 - Mr. Knigh:

ah most likely die do shhh with ur fate hate, ur presence is jus irritating with ur lil sarcy comments u have hidden behind fate all era and if i was allowed i'd take u out singl handedly for ur ungratefullness


19:52:57 May 7th 10 - Mr. Hema Fanboy:

What we need is a return to the old days of VU. Where the likes of DB ruled with a hard but fair approach.

No defeats.
No inter-KD squabbling.
No kicking and feeding.
No flaming.


Just pure playing, pure politics.


20:15:09 May 7th 10 - Mr. Nerdhix:

The object was to share in the spoils, not to despoil a leader.

So the emphasis was to keep parity amoung the members and not greed for winning the era.

Not just Freddy being asked, but ALL of our leadership held the same notion, to allow our smaller members to reap some spoils of war.


20:19:32 May 7th 10 - Mr. Path:

From randoms reply:

"I decided to tell anica to take the city because I thought that how freddy played his attack was lame and he didn't deserve the score he was getting for simply walking past a blocker due to a mages skill and taking all the spoils of war when he clearly used 0 skill to do so."

Hehe, this is why letting your enemy determine who gets what city leads to trouble.  He isn't trying to do Fate any favors, he was looking to screw you over, so why listen to them?

I've no real opinion about who is right or wrong in this fate vs freddy thing because I'm not even on the map and all I've heard and read on the forums is biased secondhand information.  But word of advice to everyone, when your enemy is trying to feed cities to specific people, they usually don't have your best interests in mind.


20:28:35 May 7th 10 - Endless Muggings:

Knigh, I beg to differ. We didn't hide behind Fate at all, we asked to be killed off when we left. Fate decided not to and gave us a NAP. We then continued on our merry way to fight MAD. I lost The Paddle and had to rebuild one (<3 to Niques), by the time I launched my second attack on them Fate blockers were closed and we had to find an alternate route. Then a Havok dude got smartazz and I took him out. Hema sort of looked like an interesting prospect after that.  No one in Fate was even hitting Hema until we opened our blockers up near the former MAD area so Fate to get to Hema (a mistake obviously but we're not greedy) and then found Fate blockers once again closed to us or rather as Sean said "No cities that we have been taken by us have chaged the status of their gates. We are merely lookng after the interests of our loyal FATE members. As I am sure if the situations were reversed you would understand and do the same."  So if you're inclined to take us out either leave Fate to do so now or find us next era thanks :)




20:35:05 May 7th 10 - Mr. Nerdhix:

Incidentally, I am not a long-term Veteran of FATE, but the idea to allow the smaller/weaker members of the Kingdom to take cities for themselves has been consistent within FATE for as long as I have been in it.

The weaker players are coached into taking on a more important role, and they have a more enjoyable VU experience when the Veterans willingly step to the side and wait for their other members to catch up with them.

This is what REALLY happens inside of FATE.


20:53:23 May 7th 10 - Mr. Fredddy:

@Deno , this is the first time i was kicked out ;)

when i was playing with u , IIIII went out, coz i was bored playing with u 


to all who support me, thk u all


i have received a msg from a Fate Vice that they wont attack my cities any more if i wont attack anymore, so from here i ll say i wont attack any 1 from fate till the era end.

i ll keep my promise to them in front of u .



21:17:26 May 7th 10 - Mr. Von Darkmoor:

I will try to be brief on the subject :P

The main cause of the trouble started when HM had a blocker full of troops (Ovech) and Freddy was prepping, he requested a CW which at a high cost Ademo supplied. Freddy then walked through the blocker but kept going, I was not in the area at the time, my army was 23 tic's out at the time. Freddy pm'd me at this point asking me to move up and protect his armoury while he went for a couple of large cities in the area, his explanation being that he was trying to tempt them out. They didnt take the bait so we still had a blocker full of enemies with a couple of decent armies in it which we couldnt leave behind. Freddy then proceeded to make his way south and captured countless resource cities whilst the rest defended against the blocker full of troops. This at first annoyed people as several of us had troops held back or else we risked leaving our core wide open.

Eventually HM did break north at our core as we suspected they would, luckily we managed to track back, hold them and then kill/bounce them away b4 they did any damage. While several of us resolved this situation Freddy continued south taking the majority of their resource cities. At this point he was asked to leave some spoils for others (NOT Yarlin, others fighting HM).

Other things that lead up to his being kicked included the fact that he was applying to other KD's, the fact he used BT's to beat his own KD mates to cities, the fact that he jumped on others cities and didnt return them or let his KD mates reclaim them. He never had any intention of staying and being part of the KD and just played VERY selfishly.

Alot of players in FATE have been together since era 18/19 not quite sure, but we are more than just KD mates as alot of us are friends (we even send Xmas cards round the world to each other lol). What i am trying to say is that we welcome new members to our KD but they need to show loyalty, teamplay and keep the game fun.

Freddy unfortunately did none of this and in fact had several of our long serving members so annoyed that they were considering leaving and the KD's loyalty is with them. Some may not think what he did was terrible and no single incident was, I have no major gripes with him, but add it all up and he was not a KD player. We have kept going so long due to our loyalty to each other and having someone new who was playing purely for himself and then poaching off others is not what we want.

So with the knowledge that he had already applied to other KD's and the poaching/greed (he admitted going for score), the decision was taken to remove him. We did what was best for our KD as we always try to do and what others think is up to them.

I guess i lied about being brief  :)


21:31:48 May 7th 10 - Mr. Jet:

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03:52:57 May 8th 10 What we need is a return to the old days of VU. Where the likes of DB ruled with a hard but fair approach.

No defeats.
No inter-KD squabbling.
No kicking and feeding.
No flaming.


Just pure playing, pure politics.

Would have to agree. Those were the days indeed.

Also, Wilber talking about experience and what an attacker is meant to do is a funny concept. How would you know?


21:59:44 May 7th 10 - Mr. Most Likely Die:

"ah most likely die do shhh with ur fate hate, ur presence is jus irritating with ur lil sarcy comments u have hidden behind fate all era and if i was allowed i'd take u out singl handedly for ur ungratefullness"

Not only do you need to use a Dictionary, you need to learn who i am and who you are.. and forgive me if I'm wrong I'm simply better then you Knigh always have been don't like it? take my dick out of your mouth and we will talk.


22:03:33 May 7th 10 - Lord Wraith Hearts Wwr:

<3 Random :)


22:26:05 May 7th 10 - Mr. Doctor:

I love you guys! Fate is flawed, you are flawed, I am ofc perfect.


Adeno is a creep and Deno is creapy...

Peace out!


23:01:38 May 7th 10 - Lady Wilber Who Loves Gary Porter:

Jet, you would show your ugly mug. Why do you always insist on being shown up and made to look like a tard? I pity you...

You say I do not have experience, sure I do not have much compared to the greats like Binh, Dvs, Ez, Q, Rox, etc etc. However, for you to criticize anyone on experience is laughable.

Infact, why am I bothering posting? I respond to your insults with something like "what have you EVER done in VU" or "are you even playing" as serious questions, but you never reply. So I might aswell say, Jet...get over yourself.


23:07:01 May 7th 10 - Lord Deno:

As Jet actually is the second best player in your list maybe he got a point :-)


Also what will it be, are you going to recruit Freddy ? :-)


23:08:13 May 7th 10 - General Zondy:

I just read this all.. and it seems its not freddy nor fate. its BOTH. maybe freddy should have asked about the city, but then again fate shouldnt tell him not to take cities anymore either. i mean honestly that would piss anyone off and make them take more.


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