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Fantasia 62
19:20:27 Jun 6th 19 - Mr. Bling Feckers:

Had nothing to do with Venz. I emailed Zeta and told him i'd wreck his servers if he didnt fix halfers. Halfers got nerfed. Simple as that.


19:22:25 Jun 6th 19 - Mr. Bling Feckers:

19:29:10 Jun 6th 19 - Osiris (Dark Lord Osiris):

So which part of halfers being op is bug abuse? Shame you lied about the part where you said it was your last era (again) in that thread, but then you also said Abydos and FW are the same kingdom so most of what you say is pretty much bullshit.


You are basically the Trump of vu and the feckers are your idiot red hat wearing fans that swallow you complete and utter rubbish even when its clearly wrong 



19:38:49 Jun 6th 19 - Mr. Eddie The Great:

Fact is that only a handful of people were using it to the extend it hurt the game so much that after two weeks of play you do not have to play any more if these 3-4 people are playing halfling.


I do not even have to say it were FW / Aby members, there might have been one occassion it was not member of these two kingdoms. 

Indeed it was Bling who started all this campaign to stop with this bug, took admin long enough to fix something thats clearly killing the game. 

We lost, well played Abydos, losing oop to come back with larger armies than we have is cool. Nobody said you did not do well. 

For last four eras you did not fight Mad until Feckers were defeated and then claim you do not have relations. If it looks like duck, swims like a duck, its a duck. 


20:11:40 Jun 6th 19 - Osiris (Dark Lord Osiris):

are you actually brain damaged enough to think finding things as a halfling is a bug?


I guess if feckers stopped following Hitlers amazing plan of invading everyone at the same time despite not being strong enough then you might actually win? not to mention we had a fight with a mad orc trying to core drop us last era but yeah i am not stupid enough to send troops at mads core while im in the middle of fighting feckers and only having usually around 9 players. 

not being stupid doesn't mean we have relations it just means we are not stupid ^^ 


If you had bothered to follow our armies and stopped us rebuilding you could have then rounded on mad in peace, instead you let us go and rebuild without sending anything to try to stop us, then you sat around doing nothing for ages before finally casting some plague on mad and invading it, then you do some shocked pikachu meme face when we came back with big armies after farming and attacked you. Sending 2-3 small-medium armies into our new core would have won you the era weeks ago


*edit sorry you did do something, you invaded a 2 man kd and a solo player during the part i said you did nothing for ages ^^


21:24:27 Jun 6th 19 - All Might:


Not gonna lie, I was pretty butthurt when my Dwarf army consisting of T3s/MUs with a 12m upkeep only had a 28% on a smaller FW halfling army.


21:31:12 Jun 6th 19 - Lord Jellybean (Mr. Jellybean Angel):

I don't blame you All Might


Halfling change was much needed


22:03:36 Jun 6th 19 - Pirate Lewatha:

Feckers are cute.


Even if we allied/NAPed MaD (which we didn't) we would still be the same size together as Feckers is alone.

What's wrong? Can you only pick on kingdoms smaller than half your size? 

Go buy your 5K USD race Bling. Buying BTs clearly isn't doing enough for you.

All you guys do is accuse us of cheating yet you offer no proof. It is sad, really...


22:15:41 Jun 6th 19 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie):

Yeah, it was fun shitting on Bling in Valhalla this era even with all his BTs. Inb4 the inactivity/late start excuses come out ;)


22:29:17 Jun 6th 19 - Mr. Bling Feckers:

What are you talking about. 4 of you tag teamed one player and you telling yourselves you played well? lol. None of you got shit on me oop. I bitch slap your asses 2 vs 1 all day long.


03:03:05 Jun 7th 19 - Mr. Gladiatorul Fanta:

Bling,


I have no reason to take sides, you know that. I play with Osi in Fanta and with you in Mantrax. 

Osi is right here.

We have no diplomacy relations with MAD. Why didn't we fight them? You crushed Aby OOP. If they opened a war with MAD they would have helped you, don't you think? You have a large KD. That's was just a strategic decision.

About bug abuses? Not sure what you mean by that. This era, you had many more halfer armies with EXP than anyone else. Before you crushed Jelly, I managed to salvaged 2 small EXP armies. When I joined Aby, I noted Venator has one too. That was all. Bogdan's EXP army came late into the era. As a comparison, you had Mad Doctor harvesting from OOP and then Cao's army, 'Two'. Then the halfers fighting on the MAD's side must have had EXP armies, too.  

So if the supposed bug was the ability to get FINDS, perhaps your KD got many more finds than ours, therefore abused the BUG more than us.

With regards to war, after you crushed Aby OOP, I thought you will be an era winner. I think you played very well OOP. Then, your decision to attack Jelly was a poor one.. I told Cao at the time, it was a strategic mistake to take on us. He didn't think so, so you lost important armies and time, while Abydos had time to recover. And here we are now.

It was a nice era, though. 

I take the opportunity to congratulate Merlin for his magic. Without that, you would have had to allocate more players to fight in Jelly's core.



03:41:12 Jun 7th 19 - Mr. Bling Feckers:

XP got taken out of the equation this era. Thats why halfers inevitably failed.

As to xp abuse - here is how it goes to show how the abuse takes place.

Venz 1-0-1
A slinger or pony army gets sent out very early on the in the era. It contains 30k worthless troops. The army will pick a fight that it is sure to lose. It gets bounced and gains 6xp.  The army retreats, with say 15k troops and 6xp.  It now has the ability to accept 15k advents which can be merged into the army for the loss of 3xp. 15k advents get moved in, useless spam troops are moved out. You now have an advent army that has never fought with 3xp points. Your first two finds are usually bonus xp finds. So now that advent army who has never fought a battle has 5xp and can sit around for the era. When it reaches a safe number of xp points, which it will do for "adventuring" say... 10 xp points, it will add another 15k advents, boosting its finds and gold, and continue until suddenly you have an advent army that has never fought yet it has XP allowing finds. Within 3 weeks that XP is at 20 or 30 xp, depending on how many players are using halfers across all the maps. Most XP boosts happen when an era ends on one map, and a new map starts, and new oop times have to happen. That is how XP is abused. I know because i went and tested it courtesy of a smack on a pony army from Chade on Mantrax. The advents i introduced to the army never ever fought.


03:58:45 Jun 7th 19 - Mr. Gladiatorul Fanta:

Well, that's just one strategy. But anyone could use it, so why would someone complain about it?


I tried to use this era a strategy similar to the above, but it failed and I lost plenty of income because of it. 

I trained 100k farmers added just enough ponies and took on a small army. Couldn't get enough EXP before the army was killed and the strategy failed.

Does it mean I am a cheater, too?

My opinion it that it's just part of the mechanisms of the game.

I am not sure if you used the land dropping strategy, as an orc, about 10 year ago. Some smart players, including myself, used it successfully. I don't recall anyone calling them cheaters, though.



04:05:59 Jun 7th 19 - Mr. Bling Feckers:

We land dropped to reduce the price of orcs. Orcs were nerfed with a price increase and fixed training costs.


The strategy works for halfers, and is now being nerfed which is correct. The abuse happens because players are gaining XP knowing they haven't fought a battle to gain the XP, then using that XP against players who cant farm XP accordingly. That's abuse of the system because players have gone out of their way to find loopholes in a system that was designed without that in mind. That's cheating.

Just because every halfer can use it, doesnt make it fair or right for players who aren't halfers, because as the stats show, it places every other race at a major disadvantage. My original suggestions was removal of the halfer totally from the game.


04:14:55 Jun 7th 19 - Mr. Gladiatorul Fanta:

Halfer was too strong, and I agree with that. Perhaps many will avoid the race now.


06:33:39 Jun 7th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

It was a team effort, every mage did his/her job and we all thank you for the compliment :-)


Mr. Gladiatorul Fanta:

I take the opportunity to congratulate Merlin for his magic. Without that, you would have had to allocate more players to fight in Jelly's core.





13:17:19 Jun 7th 19 - Mr. Robotpants:

Halfers nerfed welly, they wont be able to get treasures n sciences like before by xp abusing.


But do enjoy what lefts of it for this era. Comes next era, you'll feel it.


08:33:09 Jun 8th 19 - Mr. Bogdan The Farmer:

Regarding the halfling feeding strategy described by bling this was only doable if you want to feed someone, so the first thing you need is an allied kd which agrees to feeding, bling being one of the few interesting into this strategies, doing this against enemies is very risky because they actually intend to take out everything. So you need many kingdom mates and allies so that they could cover you a whole era while you don't do anything. Honestly if that is the case you could even play dwarf and still win (and dwarf was the weakest race early era, late era and one of the weakest mid era).


10:02:23 Jun 8th 19 - Mr. Bling Feckers:

Bogdan is clearly smoking his underwear. I did this for 4 weeks of last era on mantrax when it was clear that Venz had been at it since the start of the era. In 4 weeks i amassed 45 science points solo, and had no help from any other kd. feel free to verify with Random, as he watched me do it and post every find that era.


16:12:04 Jun 8th 19 - Dragon Prophet Theophilus:

I am a halfer but always considered that a risky gambit. Not assuredly to work or not. 

I didn't consider that a bug. There was some bug that involved stealing food and granting XP because of that to defending armies or something if I recall.


13:37:28 Jun 9th 19 - Osiris (Dark Lord Osiris):

sooo anyone have magic 9?


15:03:01 Jun 9th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

I can cast Arma

But you’ll need to tell Bogdan to move away
If he does not kill me
I can start prep for arma today and cast it quickly


15:22:04 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Black Knight Templar:

Lmfao. You can't expect him to do that ;)


15:30:41 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Merlin The Magical:

Abydos won

Thats clear
They can not cast Arma
I can.

Option I
Kill me, wait for admin to cast arma
That can take weeks time

Option II
Let me live, I cast Arma latest tomorrow
We start new era right away

Does not take away anything from era’s win.


15:52:27 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Black Knight Templar:

I think you're forgetting something ;) some kds actually want to wipe the opponent out from map b4 arma. If thats what aby wants, they wont let u arma n end it.


We do want to end it today, but its up to winning kd to decide.


17:29:03 Jun 9th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

It was Osiris who asked about Arma

He is member of winning kingdom
I just assume they asking cause they want Arma
If I am wrong and they have someone with magic 9
Nevermind then :-)


17:34:44 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Black Knight Templar:

Nice. Then pm Osi n cast arma? ;)


18:26:37 Jun 9th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

Looks like they agree

I will prep for Arma
Should take me a day or so

Good era Aby
Good luck everyone next era


19:20:32 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Robotpants:


Sir Merlin The Mage:

I will prep for Arma

Should take me a day or so


come on man! 1 day!! Do it now ;)


20:37:54 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Uwer:

I can cast arma, and I swear that I have tried 5 times a month ago.


Venomz was in the lead by this time.

You dont need to cast, Merlin (unless u want bogdan to win).


20:39:59 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Uwer:

They agree but I dont. They are afraid. its abysh1t, anyway.


Will feckers now make their most embarassing era casting arma to the enemy?


20:47:32 Jun 9th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

I died and my arms was just returned to me

Thats why I need a bit of time to train up
If Mad wants to fight iz out with Aby go for it
Or if Mad wants to cast also good

I only want a new era and would prefer not to have to wait for admin to end the world, that can take a lot of time.
Casting Arma would be for everyone’s benefit
Aby cause they won
The rest benefit cause we would not have to wait for weeks.


Mr. Robotpants:


Sir Merlin The Mage:

I will prep for Arma

Should take me a day or so


come on man! 1 day!! Do it now ;)




20:50:19 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Uwer:

Aby won you, because you played like knobs.


20:51:32 Jun 9th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

I guess you liked those plagues this era :-)



21:03:44 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Uwer:

Thats exactly what Im talking about. It was a waste since we werent your main enemy.

You should have asked for a nap with MAD if you cant complete the service. Aisha and Eddie should have stayed in our core. 

Abydos is just playing their basics hardcore service and doing it right.


I saw everything from the start. This is one of the longest eras ever played and feckers made wrong choices.



22:15:07 Jun 9th 19 - fred (Mr. Fred The Terrorist):

i agree with uwer


anyone cast arma and let us play again


22:20:44 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Robotpants:


fred:

i agree with uwer


anyone cast arma and let us play again


That's what i was saying. Lets finish this era ASAP.


23:28:37 Jun 9th 19 - Mr. Eddie The Great:

Agreed, we did poorly regarding Mad campaign
Easy to be a general after the battle...
We did not know if we even had enough to stop the first Aby push from north, hence some of the armies pulling back to go north.
Lack of communication caused us to split our Mad team, and its a shame, you guys were quite inactive this era, we should have taken you down quickly. 


Mr. Uwer:

Thats exactly what Im talking about. It was a waste since we werent your main enemy.

You should have asked for a nap with MAD if you cant complete the service. Aisha and Eddie should have stayed in our core. 

Abydos is just playing their basics hardcore service and doing it right.


I saw everything from the start. This is one of the longest eras ever played and feckers made wrong choices.





00:29:57 Jun 10th 19 - Mr. Black Knight Templar:

Guys its been like a decade we haven't seen "The Sensitive Fellows" running an era in Fant again! How about another round from them this era? 


Are they too afraid ;) Can anyone inform all of 'em bout running another round?

Think about it. Underdogs will run this era, we'd love to see them back as well ;)

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Mike Jobber: Yeah what do you think, poof? It's a fucking tool

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01:44:03 Jun 10th 19 - Mr. Bling Feckers:

What are you talking about Uwer?? You lot were casting on us from very early on. Ownages and AoTD armies. Or did you forget those provocations that resulted in you getting attacked


07:36:21 Jun 10th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

Ugh just did 4 tries at arma all failed

No luck for now, will keep trying guys


09:24:40 Jun 10th 19 - All Might:


Sat down on a train. looks at phone. Apparently I reported a post by accident

._.

Sorry whoever that was.


09:49:41 Jun 10th 19 - Mr. Robotpants:

Its pretty normal. I reported couple of messeges by mistake just last week ;) 


14:59:40 Jun 10th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

Not up to me any more

FW stole my sciences
Now they decide when it ends
Good luck all


15:09:16 Jun 10th 19 - Mr. Davey Jones Daa Witty Capn:

"18:59:40 Jun 10th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

Not up to me any more

FW stole my sciences"



Arrr! Thar be nah FW in Fant. Be u a drunken addlepate?

Ye couldn't find the pointy end of yer sword, ye nattering, damnable idiot! ... Hoist the anchor!






15:21:13 Jun 10th 19 - Mr. Merlin The Magical:

Roxy did it

FW, Aby
Same sh1t



15:31:08 Jun 10th 19 - Mr. Davey Jones Daa Witty Capn:

Sink me! hate those scabby abytwats!


15:11:23 Jun 11th 19 - Mr. Davey Jones Daa Witty Capn:

For Sweet Jezzz, why its taking a decade 4 arma! 


15:37:42 Jun 11th 19 - Sir Merlin The Mage:

They made a mistake, wrong person did SS

They don’t have magic level 9 now


15:59:15 Jun 11th 19 - Mr. Robotpants:

Hotdamn... Come on!


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