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Fantasia Age 5
14:54:17 Jan 28th 11 - Mr. Victor:

What you need are good umbrellas..you know? We make fine umbrellas if ye be looking to buy some :D.


21:32:30 Jan 28th 11 - Ms. Tress Mayhem:

I brought condoms thinking they'd be enough ... umbrellas eh? 

hmmmm


04:24:25 Jan 31st 11 - Ms. Tress Mayhem:

Binh, I do not respect your decision to cast arma for the third time on this world.   Just sayin


05:41:26 Jan 31st 11 - Fire Lord Yarlin With Rug Burn:

Anyone that cries about Steal Science needs to train more MU anywhere. NOT just in an army. All it takes is for that army to get whacked real nice and poof, you are an open target for the spell. I've cast it 6 or 7 times this era just for giggles at 50%+. even with 300-500k MU used to cast you would have to have next to no MU at all to get a chance like that.
you get it cast on you then you deserve it like any other spell, plain and simple.


08:05:20 Jan 31st 11 - Ms. Zatanna Zatara:

Armageddon will end the world of Fantasia in 240 days unless the city of Endisnear is destroyed!! 

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08:10:07 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Brick:

Retards.

I am going to resign asap


08:24:31 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Godzilla:

I believe I may follow your example Mr. Brick :(


08:25:12 Jan 31st 11 - General Who:

yay everyone wreck everything so they get nothing!


09:20:06 Jan 31st 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:

Message From Mr. Barny


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Mr. Barny (1/29/2011 12:59:43 AM) GOOD BAD
Hey there Mcmax, it's me Barny. I recently read a post where you say that my support of using Armageddon to control the spell itself has caused you to lose all respect for me. I respect you greatly as a player and member of the community, and I certainly wouldn't want to lose your respect.

I wrote a book-like response to your comment, it isn't a hostile or aggressive post, it was made to examine the morales and ethics present in VU's mechanics and the community itself.

Overall, what you think is very important. The usage of Armageddon and other spells that have recent become more popular has changed the game quite a lot, and I am interested in hearing your opinion on the matter, as well as the ethical concerns that accompany said spells.
You (1/31/2011 9:19:13 AM)
With Bogdans 3rd Arma-cast, I don't care for the game anymore.

I'm pulling out of active gameplay.

Make a reply regarding

Send a new letter to Barny


11:02:46 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Barny:


20:41:26 Jan 30th 11 - Fire Lord Yarlin With Rug Burn:

Anyone that cries about Steal Science needs to train more MU anywhere. NOT just in an army. All it takes is for that army to get whacked real nice and poof, you are an open target for the spell. I've cast it 6 or 7 times this era just for giggles at 50%+. even with 300-500k MU used to cast you would have to have next to no MU at all to get a chance like that. 
you get it cast on you then you deserve it like any other spell, plain and simple.



While I do not agree with the people who complain about that spell, your response doesn't fully address their concerns. Even this era, there have been players (mostly Abydos) who were completely wiped out save for a few scouts. At that point, they basically become science batteries. They can do nothing to prevent "donating" all of their sciences to someone.


12:26:31 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Legend:

Okay let's start a small comment here.


DS you guys suck dicks and are the worst kd in the game. And you guys ruin the game. Not Zeta.
If you had some honor you would play the game proper and don't abuse/missuse an unbalanced spell.

And please Barny stop posting long text. It's useless. Anybody that reads the text will see that you give the same point everytime. Just give your point by a small post it's not needed to make such a posts.
And don't play like your the smartest person in the game it's sick making.
And if Zeta was here. He would probally say something about the bs you guys use.


13:24:39 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Brick:

Well said.

Barny always has a big mouth about everything, but well, big mouths usually have small dicks, they have to compensate some how.

And don,t start again with that morale and ethics small talk, people here just want to play the game and have some fun, not read long post and certainly not being accused of things they did not do.

I hope you can find some other game to play and leave VU soon before it completly dies.

 


14:50:28 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Fordius:

Well the problem here now is that Barny in someway is a hypocrite.
He blames people about adventures doing exp feeding. ( I clearly was against it in Public as In the kingdom forum ) 

The hypocritical part now actually is. Having control of the arma spell is sort off the same problem as adventures exp feeding.
Misusing the game mechanics but I don't hear barny saying much about that really. But that's prolly as it's benefiting himself.
They can have all the mines on fantasia that Hex would loose eventually was already predicted long ago as 80% of the kingdom was inactive ( also main reason why I already had told them I was leaving ) only 4 or 5 players were active enough to participate in anything really.

Anyways it's true the first arma got casted far to quick.
And everyone wanted the game to continue so they took another control spell and maybe this shoulda have had continued.
You guys made your point with arma  but than you guys took further advantage of the bad game mechanics.
Either way you especially barny shoulda hold urself from screaming at people for misusing the game mechanics or you gotta be fair to all sides and not only towards the opposite sites.

Anyways nicely played and deserved victory from Dark Side.
But the arma thing just got carried away to far.


16:03:47 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Path:

Let me get this straight....I have't played in a few ages so I may be missing something.

Age started Dec 25, it is now Jan 31.  Meaning the age isnt even 40 days old and you guys are pouting about how long its going?  Heck, when zeta shortened age length to 40 days that was incredibly annoying and the map was pretty darn small at the time.  I am told it is much larger now.

One kingdom controlling arma is annoying but if they weren't controlling it, someone else would be or else the age would have ended a while ago?  Still seems like there is fighting to be done by looking at hoh, im not in a kingdom to see actual power scores however.

As I look back at the first page I see hanky bragging about how his 5 players are 3 times as strong as the kingdoms with 20+ players.  I kinda figured he would want to prove himself.  Instead I see a player of his kingdom in the forums crying his eyes out so bad I half expect to see his nose blowing snot bubbles.


16:09:25 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Bogdan:

Path don't bother explaining, people are just trying to complain about something or something else, if they would actually be thinking a bit about this it would make sense for them also, or if not they could ask (ofc without insults or similar things).


16:24:57 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Fordius Revived:

Path ur missing my point.

What I'm talking about is the part where people complain about adventure feeding but than are being hypocritical about other mechanics that are not ment that way.

I don't bother about the rest I will do my part of the fighting.
And I already had claimed that if DS wins they deserved the win.
My complaining is pure about something else than the fighting itself.


At Bogdan

Is that how you will mask the mechanics abuse? By just saying if they think about it it's logical?
If I think about adventure exp feeding it sounds logical to meh too but there is a difference in if something sounding logical or if it's correct to use.
The thing I'm bitching at are ment for the people that so called "scream" about "adventure exp" feeding and than accepts things like this as normal.

If ur not the one that screams exp feeding is abuse. Than there is nothing wrong with you abusing this mechanics. But don't make it sounds like it's acceptable.


17:02:27 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Brick:

Maybe there is a deeper meaning in the arma abuse, but i don,t see it, could somebody from DS (not Barny) explain please.


17:19:10 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Hanky Spanky:

Uhmm... Path. Legend is the same as Hanky Spanky. The person that braggs about pwning everyone on fant start of the era.


Yup can you maybe explain it Bogdan? Or Binh since he is accused 2 of the arma thing.


17:57:35 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Binh The Pokemon Master:

It's pretty simple. I already told my guys this the first time we casted arma.

1. Arma wasn't casted to secure our win. The era will continue whether a member from our kd win or lose by the end of that arma.
2. First arma and any subsequent arma was casted so we can complete our war with abydos, hex, and any other kd that we fancy in warring against.
3. We despise score whoring by pumping troops near era end as it give win to a guy that totally don't deserve the win. Thus, not knowing when the era will actually end for enemy kds will prevent this.

Hex is still surviving and abydos is rebuilding. The war is far from over, thus our reason why we as a kd decided to cast another arma just yesterday. Now if you all just fall dead, then this will be definitely the last arma we will cast :)


18:06:23 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Hanky Spanky:

Well I can say. That me, zond and Sumner destroyed everything and good luck taking it.


And if you guys were so nice to tell the community that at the first/second arma it wouldn't be a problem. And wouldn't we flame/rage/cry about it.


18:27:19 Jan 31st 11 - General Who:

Problem is that you wish to control a SPELL. Its not meant to be controlled. its meant to be cast once the time is right. We all have massive wars and this era was hell of a lot of fun at the start. Hex is being attacked from every single side and we are in the middle of the map. Then this arma bs. Most just went inactive or doesnt care.

The money vu is worth dropped by 200% 3 months ago. To this day is dropped 3800% from 6-7 months ago.

Great job to the players and zeta. no one specific is to blame. Its a group.


18:27:37 Jan 31st 11 - Sir Erythnul:

'Yawn' another arma cast in Fant ... then uncast ..then wait cast again geez i hope the owner of the mantrax arma lets it run its course . And uses it like it was originally meant to do 'destroy the world' instead of 'we will cast it so they can't ' vet players must be getting bored ...time for a new game guys ?


18:27:56 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Friendly Forum User:

WOW VU LOOKS LIKE SUCH A GOOD GAME THESE DAYS

NVM SORRY OFF TO PLAY A REAL GAME CY@


18:34:45 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Binh The Travelling Merchant:

"its meant to be cast once the time is right."

The problem here is that "right time" for someone might not be "right time" for another person.

Last era arma on fant for abydos for example. We wanted era to continue so we can fight relentless. Of course we don't get what we wanted because abydos casted arma. Can't blame them, they got a guy winning and are winning all their wars. It's right time for them but not for us.

So where arma is concern, there is no "right time" for everyone. Just remove arma as a spell if this is the concern. :)

As it is, maybe we are a bit selfish. But we want it to end at a "right time" for us and not for example, someone else.


18:43:31 Jan 31st 11 - Judge Kobuskan:

So you decided to continue the era so that the majority of players on fant are bored for another 10 real days, instead of dealing the carts again and start a whole new game.

Well done DS


18:46:51 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Binh The Travelling Merchant:

I wouldn't say you're bored. Just yesterday you even message bogdan to remember to cancel arma.

A nice message saying: bogdan, we surrender, no point in continuing the war. Let's end the era.

I think that would've done the trick.


18:59:39 Jan 31st 11 - Judge Kobuskan:

Yes i did.

You (1/30/2011 8:47:40 PM)
Don,t forget to set your clock to cancell arma on Fant, lol

 

But i did not imagin he would really cancel it, it more was intended to be a joke.

 

 


19:11:48 Jan 31st 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:

I could have written the same as Kobuskan did. As a sarcasm note.

No Binh, Bogdan and other of the "Bright Brains Vet Club" (those we, the ordinary players ofter told each others had been hit by the deadly "Fantasia Disease"):

You are wrong. You do NOT HAVE TO DO a spell or anything, just because you CAN DO it.

Specially now, when we do not have any to moderate the game itself. It demands self-diciplin and you lack that in a degree, where you are beyound reach of normal common sense.

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Here is my post - made several days ago - about my most serious concerns about this game. I wrote it as an "input" in the suggestionforum for a change/nerf of the Armageddon spell, knowing it would be futile. But never the less:

 

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08:28:01 Jan 25th 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:

The real problem with this game is, that Zeta is away and it looks like he intend to stay away.

His absense allows genius like Barny and others to seek the limits of the gamemechanism such as:

  • Casting Armageddon too early. Premature as Barny calls it is only when he or his kingdom doesn't control it. The spell hasn't been changed since the worlds were splitted and the first many ages after that, I have not seen complaints about misuse of Armageddon.
  • Sciencereaping. An advanced way to be (mis)use the good "Steal Science" spell. It have probably been possible for ages, but none have used it, at least not in a degree where it became real visible to the victims and the community. Again, some have too much time to seek the "dark sides" of the gameplay.
  • AotD. Misuse of the spell.
  • Halfling experience feeding. Already in the black book but still some have tried it out this age.

All this because Zeta is away. No one to close/remove the glitches, no one to punish the "Bright Brains" - it's free to do what you want and preferable do it before your neighbour.

What a game this have become and what a lousy level, some players have gone down to.

 


19:01:12 Jan 25th 11 - Sir Horus XIII:

02:28:01 Jan 25th 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:

The real problem with this game is, that Zeta is away and it looks like he intend to stay away.



amen, we need something to stir the pot, its getting stale


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20:06:49 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Binh The Travelling Merchant:

We do not know that it is boring for the vast majority of the population of fantasia. If you peoples have an opinion, make it be heard in a serious discussion. Representative of kds should make a post saying something if they really do care. Alot of the things I seen in this thread is whining and insults and sarcasms. None of which i take in seriously.

However I do take note of several individuals saying the era is boring after the recast. But then again, what several individual from Hex and Tress Mayhem doesn't constitute a vast majority of fantasia.

As for why i didn't let the majority of the population of fantasia know about our arma cancelation. That's because I want to punish all peoples that score pump for era end. There is only two person that I tell the plan to outside our kd and allies about arma cancellation because they came up and talk to me about it nicely. And that is Fordius and Deno. I even have a good laugh when I saw a relentless player all of the sudden appear in hoh rank above me when arma almost ended.

Friendly chatting/discussion can do wonder.


21:15:39 Jan 31st 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:

Sorry Bihn.

There is no connection in real gameplay between what you write here in public and what your kingdom is doing.

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We do not know that it is boring for the vast majority of the population of fantasia.

Never mind, it will be much smaller in a few month.

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If you peoples have an opinion, make it be heard in a serious discussion. Representative of kds should make a post saying something if they really do care.

I will leave active gameplaying and I know more are going to do the same. Some of us have written about it in public but "some others" wouldn't listen (input/complaints not serious, not representaive, only selfish). Now, if the continious falling numbers of active players doesn't say anything serious to you, well play with your self (in the near future).

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Alot of the things I seen in this thread is whining and insults and sarcasms. None of which i take in seriously.

Of course not! You are Binh and an old Fant-player.

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However I do take note of several individuals saying the era is boring after the recast. But then again, what several individual from Hex and Tress Mayhem doesn't constitute a vast majority of fantasia.

Nope, but else I have no comments to that.

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As for why i didn't let the majority of the population of fantasia know about our arma cancelation. That's because I want to punish all peoples that score pump for era end.

I say..... that was an excuse I only would have expected at the gates of Sct. Peter "upthere somewhere"...........

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There is only two person that I tell the plan to outside our kd and allies about arma cancellation because they came up and talk to me about it nicely. And that is Fordius and Deno.

Great!. But I still think Fordius is against the way the spell is used. Deno.... well he is member of a kingdom, which is using it on Mantrax right now. However I will say the kingdom Pawer just managed to "do it" before FW or Music would have done it. Casting Arma that is. And as a very small kingdom without any chance to win the era are excused (this by a both second and third thought).

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I even have a good laugh when I saw a relentless player all of the sudden appear in hoh rank above me when arma almost ended.

Hope you enjoy it.

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Friendly chatting/discussion can do wonder.

Maybe, but not miracles.

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Sorry for the long post, but I had too much time to answer on this now.


21:24:12 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Alexander The Great:

You guys have way to much time on your hands to argue every era, about the same stuff, with long posts. What is arguing on the forums going to accomplish exactly??


21:37:55 Jan 31st 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:

Well, nothing can change anything anymore Alexander - the owner of the game is away and noone else can make changes to the gameengine.

So...... it's more to show our "stands" and to "piss our territory off" before this game is gone and forgot.


22:05:30 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Von Darkmoor:

You may not think it has been boring but i have to say this has been the most tedious era on Fant since i started. Your controlling of the Arma spell has killed the era off and in fact made up the minds of many (every member of my KD for starters) to not play Fant again.

So it has been effective and will assist you in securing the win and it will also assist you in future Fant era's as it will be interesting to see how many start on Fant once it does end :P

Im not saying this to flame as i have respect for alot of you guys, im just explaining the views from my KD and that is the decision to not play Fant again.


22:16:29 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Brick:

Dug up a phrase from our great thinker B who ruined the gameplay on Fant, it dated about half year ago.

I quote:

The plan was to let it go through, then have it canceled on the last tick. Because of this, our enemies would pump troops for score; and thus sabotage themselves when the spell is canceled. If things looked grim 240 ticks from the time it was cast but Relentless was still in the #1 spot, but it appeared we would soon fall out of power; then we would let it go through.

 


22:31:38 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Elsin:

"So you decided to continue the era so that the majority of players on fant are bored for another 10 real days"

As apposed to the exciting few weeks of whoring fant normally is?

It's nice to see an era actually getting played out. If "arma lock" is the only way to achieve this, so be it. A bigger "crime" would be seeing another kingdom cast a premature arma to grab an era win.

btw. It's amusing to see people who condone xp feeding complaining. And about this of all things.

"However I will say the kingdom Pawer just managed to "do it" before FW"

I tell you again Mcmax that your way off, but believe what you want... Anyway. Fant thread.


22:55:35 Jan 31st 11 - Lord Gilth:

btw. It's amusing to see people who condone arma controll complaining about xp feeding.


22:56:38 Jan 31st 11 - Ms. Tress Mayhem:

Arma is meant to end the world not make Fantasia the neverending story :p  If you keep recasting it you should achieve complete and utter annihilation of everyone else on the map pretty soon no doubt :)


In the end its up to people playing the game to decide if they want to continue playing against a group of people that were always winning the map and had multiple opportunities to restart the map and have clearly shown how they intend to continue playing the game on whatever map they are on. I've chosen not to play VU anymore (most fun era for me since the multiple characters was on Zetamania where Grim and Von kicked my ass go figure) so once my army is dead  that is my exit out of the story.    If our paths meet in another game make sure you say Hi... I did have a lot of fun in previous eras playing with you all. 


23:32:26 Jan 31st 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:

22:31:38 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Elsin:

"So you decided to continue the era so that the majority of players on fant are bored for another 10 real days"

As apposed to the exciting few weeks of whoring fant normally is?

It's nice to see an era actually getting played out. If "arma lock" is the only way to achieve this, so be it. A bigger "crime" would be seeing another kingdom cast a premature arma to grab an era win.

btw. It's amusing to see people who condone xp feeding complaining. And about this of all things.

"However I will say the kingdom Pawer just managed to "do it" before FW"

I tell you again Mcmax that your way off, but believe what you want... Anyway. Fant thread.


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You havn't told me anything Elsin.

And I certainly do not understand the last 3 words of your post - should those be important in any way?


23:56:20 Jan 31st 11 - Puppy Puppylicious:

I think I heard us mentioned in this thread? lol <3


04:11:40 Feb 1st 11 - Mr. Looks Interesting:

I can see the two sides of the argument. It sucks to be winning a war and then some clown (not the Pengy variety) comes along and casts Arma which will cut your world short. It also sucks to be losing a war or in a stalemate to then have some clown (not the Pengy variety) come along and KEEP casting Arma to prolong the era.

Basically the losers (of the wars) always want a shorter era and the winners (of the wars) a longer one. 

This sort of stuff never happened when the era was a known length. Just piss Arma off altogether and have a set era length that everyone can work with. IT is also something that Zeta could implement very quickly.


06:14:07 Feb 1st 11 - Mr. Xanatos The Crazy:

yes but why would the great Zeta (sarcasm) put something into his game that he already toke out

 

P.S. i remember a day when i said that and im pretty sure many others said that without the sarcastic part to it.


06:15:27 Feb 1st 11 - Mr. Lokken:

"You havn't told me anything Elsin."

You said almost the exact same thing In our pm's and I replied. Whether you choose believe it or not is up to you.

"And I certainly do not understand the last 3 words of your post"

Well. Title of the thread is Fantasia. Not Mantrax. But whatever.


07:12:33 Feb 1st 11 - Mr. Nooooobhammer:

I wanted arma to be successfully cast this time, but that's mostly because I'm dead on fanta.... lol


08:36:01 Feb 1st 11 - Sir Mcmax The Magic Warrior:

06:15:27 Feb 1st 11 - Mr. Lokken:

"You havn't told me anything Elsin."

You said almost the exact same thing In our pm's and I replied. Whether you choose believe it or not is up to you.

"And I certainly do not understand the last 3 words of your post"

Well. Title of the thread is Fantasia. Not Mantrax. But whatever.


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I'm not going only to pull out in one world and continue on another as I'm just as pissed on Pawer (Mantrax) as I am on Dark Side (Fantasia) for using the Arma-spell. Pawer might have another reason to cast the Arma-spell (to show certain players, that they don't own that spell??) than Dark Side had. Besides it doesn't look like Pawer intend to cancel the spell.

Never-the-less the underlaying problems are the same in both worlds (all VU-worlds actually), therefore my reaction must be the same and it really doesn't matter if I write in a Fant-thread or a Mant-thread (or both).

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I will stop as active player on Mantrax when that world ends.

Here I will continue playing until my last troops have been killed. Destroying all MAD and Dark Side cities/troops I can.

When that is over, I'm stopping as active player on Fant too.

 

 


16:02:33 Feb 1st 11 - Sir Binh The Conqueror:

lol be pissed all you like. Arma need to be cast sooner or later or else, you'll be stuck in one world forever. Just because the time that another player (with arma casting ability) has chosen to end the world doesn't suit you, you want to rage quit? What a baby.

Yeah, it's true that pawer casted arma a bit too soon for me and several others. But to them, it's the right time. Like I have explained earlier, any arma cast will mean right time for some people and wrong time for others. If you want it to be right time for you, then why don't you be arma caster yourself instead of crying like a baby in the forum?

There's many other things you can do. Something like what Mr. Look Interesting did. Suggesting to remove armageddon would've been a much better approach than crying to the community?


16:08:32 Feb 1st 11 - Judge Kobuskan:

So you state that it is the right time for Pawerfull to end Mantrax, thats a tricky statement, are you sure ?

Pawerfull did not do that much fighting and build up huge armies, maybe they decide to end arma and do a final satnd battle to defend there core against 2 bigger kingdoms.

Get the picture Binh ?


16:14:20 Feb 1st 11 - Sir Binh The Conqueror:

Whatever they decide, since they are the arma caster, it will be the right time for them whenever they decide to end it. Doesn't matter if they choose to cancel or let it run it's course. They get to decide what time is right since they put up the effort of casting it. If you want to end it at the right time for you, then stop it and cast yourself. They wont give a shit if it end the wrong time for you.

Get what i'm saying?


16:18:09 Feb 1st 11 - Mr. Ironfist:

I have a question.

Who amongst the great and experienced players here (I don't count myself amongst them) thinks that a farmer who fights almost nobody, should win an Era?


16:36:58 Feb 1st 11 - Mr. Barny:


04:24:39 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Brick:

Well said.

Barny always has a big mouth about everything, but well, big mouths usually have small dicks, they have to compensate some how.


Well said Kobuskan. You make a valid point, and are a brilliant and respectable orator and not a completely childish retard.



05:50:28 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Fordius:

Well the problem here now is that Barny in someway is a hypocrite.


Sounds like bullshit, go on...



05:50:28 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Fordius:

WHaving control of the arma spell is sort off the same problem as adventures exp feeding.
Misusing the game mechanics but I don't hear barny saying much about that really. But that's prolly as it's benefiting himself.


1. No, it really isn't.
2. Not true, how many fucking times have I posted about it saying that the Armageddon mechanics are shit an need to be changed? Besides, if the era would have ended at any point in a 600 tick window I would have won the era, and I still would have.



08:02:27 Jan 31st 11 - Mr. Brick:

Maybe there is a deeper meaning in the arma abuse, but i don,t see it, could somebody from DS (not Barny) explain please.



A valid point is still a valid point no matter who makes it, to deny that is just childish.


07:18:09 Feb 1st 11 - Mr. Ironfist:

I have a question.

Who amongst the great and experienced players here (I don't count myself amongst them) thinks that a farmer who fights almost nobody, should win an Era?


I don't think it's really about winning the era, and while most people would agree that this scenario is not very good, the era winner used to almost always be either a farmer or a cheater due to the way that the gameplay mechanics worked. That said, winning the era on a player-based level should never influence the decisions that a kingdom or player makes.


16:45:31 Feb 1st 11 - Mr. Barny:

One of the reasons that I am getting tired of the VU community is when shit like this comes up, it becomes more and more apparent that the community is full of herp derping retards.


As soon as the first Armageddon was cast people complained that the era was cut short. When the era has been dragged on, people complain that the era has gone on to long. If you continually argue from a platform based on what serves you at the time, it is impossible to take you seriously. I'm not saying that everyone who thinks that using Armageddon to lock in an era on Fantasia is bad is arguing that point because it benifits them to end the era, but certainly most of the people in this thread are.

On top of that, you guys are willing to write book-like responses but you aren't willing to ever sensibly discuss the issue. I messaged every single fucking Vice/Leader of every single Fantasia kingdom, and even posted in this thread about the possibility of the top Fantasian kingdoms agreeing to let the era go on for X number of ticks before casting Armageddon. There were only 3 responses.

Now that the era has gone on for about 40 days (when eras were cut to 40 days, people QQ'd just as hard about how SHORT the era were) everyone is complaining.

Armageddon mechanics suck, no one is saying that they don't. But as of now, the way that people are reacting to this usage of the spell is fucking pathetic.


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