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GvE round 2
03:35:46 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Trolling Troll:

Well it's always nice to see new faces join the game.


09:35:15 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Barny:

Indeed, and it seems that most new and returning players either all join Evil or that all join Good.

Either way the round seems to at least be pretty interesting.


10:42:46 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Barny:

Flame towards Ignis because you really do bring it upon yourself:

Your punctuation is worse than your ethics and there was indeed a time when your Battle Wins/Troops Killed/Cities Captured was skewed heavily towards 'This guy is using nazgul to capture a lot of undefended cities from players that aren't even aware he is a threat'. It doesn't look that way now on the Fearsome HoH because you opted to spam hundreds of thousands of gaia (with very few MU thus the ROFing), and even then you have killed less troops than I have and you are not killing high level troops.

If you had a kingdom your impact might be considered above average and some people would respect the amount you accomplished, but without a kingdom on the GvE world people are just going to be annoyed by the confusion it creates.


11:19:31 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Ignis Last:

You joking with me I killed 200k ponies from you guys with only gaias and hamerthrowers also since I you guys would complain alot more f I actually did destroy you core I did not use mu and also I wasnt in it to win


11:27:20 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Ignis Shurkul:

You killed someone recently and you saying I got less troops kills lol


12:22:55 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Barny:

I don't want to debate this, it's undeniable that you have done varying amounts of damage to both kingdoms and the fact of the matter is that that isn't a good thing.

I could respect the amount of damage you had done if you had gone about it differently.

1. You forgot a few letters there but I had my interpreter make out what you were trying to say.

2. You DID NOT kill 200k Pony Rider dear lord do you actually believe that yourself? At least go with a more believable number, 80k Pony Rider armies have constituted top HoH armies for a number of days and we haven't just been sending hundreds of thousands of ponies to get gaia'd to death.

3. I logged in after being away for over a day, saw my army got bounced at a high cost to the attacker about half a day ago and then looked to see how much damage you were causing. That's hardly recent kills and I don't think you can walk away from this era being proud of much, I'm not trying to 1-up you with kills (not the point of the game) I'm just demonstrating a point.

4. You trained 20k MU or something like that after being ROF'd didn't you?



12:38:25 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Ignis Last:

I did not kill all of ponies at the same time it was between three halfling players under a short period. 


12:44:28 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Barny:

It doesn't even look like you will die in a way that we get to steal science you ;_;


16:08:53 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Sherlock Holmes:

Let us put it this way 


If Ignis was part of a kingdom from the start, he wouldn't have nearly gotten close to the amount of accomplishment that he has so far

Feeding off of Good when they weren't ready then using the extra power to attack evil when they are fighting Good, at a different front. 

To be me, if you were with good from the start, you wouldn't have the same amount of kills/troops/cities. 

Keep in mind you started as an Orc, and opponents need to prepare for that if they know from the start your intentions.  

There is no doubt you are a strong player. However, you have impacted the dynamics of what GvE was all about. 

Hopefully, it is a lesson learns for next era for all of us. 

I screwed up my start on GvE so I just opted to stay out, burnt my cities and covered one of the cities with my remaining scouts but I don't understand why they are still alive. I can't even restart


16:14:55 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Ignis Shurkul:

I gave back all the good cities and even my cities so when I attacked evil I did not hav much resources.It was thx to taking a cities from evil that i got 100k gaias and took some more cities thats all 


16:18:18 Jan 26th 15 - Mr. Ignis Shurkul:

I screwed up my start on GvE so I just opted to stay out, burnt my cities and covered one of the cities with my remaining scouts but I don't understand why they are still alive. I can't even restart

 
Merge scouts and then kamikaze on a citie


20:12:11 Jan 26th 15 - Random (Ms. Sah Evil):

We can't kill your scouts because for some unknown reason GvE is counted as a 50% rule world and you've not actually attacked anyone in evil.


08:55:11 Feb 1st 15 - Mr. Barny:

My 17 EXP adventurer stack may have only found 90~ million gold

BUT MY FORESTRY SCIENCE IS FUCKING INSANE RIGHT NOW.

If GvE comes down to a lumberjack competition I'm pretty sure my Standing Block Chop is twice as good as Binh's right now.

I'd like to see that 138.67 million gold treasure find, but I'd LOVE to take my Forestry to the next level.


09:04:53 Feb 1st 15 - Mr. Double Agent:

What forestry level have you got?


09:27:37 Feb 1st 15 - Mr. Barny:

It's a secret, I can't share this sort of super-important combat intel with you until after Evil has wiped Good out completely.

I found 2 more levels today, my Forestry is getting out of control and I don't think Good is going to have an answer for it. I hear rumors that Horus's Forestry is also getting very, very high. Are you prepared to watch your lumbermills fall into more capable hands?

I really can't complain because I actually haven't been getting unlucky with treasure finds at all, but I can only laugh at how worthless Forestry finds are especially given that a gold find would completely change the era.

Most people probably have 1.5-2.5 million gold income at this point so 138 million gold would go a long way. I question whether or not 16 tree per lumbermill is going to help my team as much as 138 million gold would and it's pretty obvious that Binh has a lot of EXP given that he's used the same army for the entire era.

There is a limited amount of treasure on a world that all treasure finds draw from and GvE has a lot of people who are going to be claiming their cut of the pie soon.


21:35:42 Feb 1st 15 - Bran (Mr. Narb):

GG Good. the most competitive era ive been in for a while


21:49:04 Feb 1st 15 - Mr. Double Agent:

Bran calling it quits already?


21:55:32 Feb 1st 15 - Bran (Mr. Narb):

already? i consisted of half the trolls in the field and im dead. we have no elfs. id say its jsut a matter of time.


22:11:11 Feb 1st 15 - Zephyr (Marquess Hartmut):

Fun era tbh, despite early era and mid era shenanigans. Hopefully everyone that played this era will keep playing next one.


22:29:48 Feb 1st 15 - Mr. Barny:

Indeed, I've enjoyed this era thus far myself. There are lots of people playing so it's very competitive which is awesome.

It's not over yet, but it's very difficult to push into Good and time is not on Evil's side. I wouldn't be so quick to give up though, as we do still have a high-impact player angled for the lategame.

Every single Orc who has entered our core has singled him out, but he hasn't given up. On top of that Good will have an equally difficult time pushing into Evil for the time being.


23:02:52 Feb 1st 15 - Mr. Mallikor:

Anon been hiding and stging all era. Look forward to seeing his AM armies XD


23:33:16 Feb 1st 15 - Mr. Trolling Troll:

Hopefully all players buy into the system next era. Ignis was causing Good all kinds of trouble early era then caused Evil even more trouble mid era. Kind of tainted what has otherwise been a fun competitive era.


04:19:58 Feb 2nd 15 - Alrisaia (Mr. Alrisaio The Black):

Bran had I not gone on a camping trip and been offline for four days we would've done better :-)


Good work though everyone!


04:09:35 Feb 3rd 15 - Mr. Eternal Slumber:

I think ill just hang back an watch this troll in our core an farm to match him so as not to get zerks running wild in our core :p


04:47:57 Feb 3rd 15 - Mr. Trolling Troll:

I come in peace, I swear :p


10:13:33 Feb 3rd 15 - Mr. Barny:

How are you going to farm in peace knowing that I found another level of Forestry science?

Monday - 1 days ago
23:00:32
Our adventurers found a saw that will revolutionize forestry science.


15:33:31 Feb 3rd 15 - Mr. Sherlock Holmes:

Is that message for real Barney or edited?


Sorry I never play hafling.... That is very funny. 

Does it matter where your adventurers are chilling? Next to a mountain/water/trees???


16:14:04 Feb 3rd 15 - Mr. Trolling Troll:

Sherlock, it's completely random. Thats why its best to get your sciences where you want them before adventuring. Otherwise your advents will rainbow your sciences


23:53:47 Feb 3rd 15 - Mr. Engelen Van Dood:

Im an elf I am one with nature I dont need forestry science cause it comes natural to elves! Its in our blood!


00:16:54 Feb 4th 15 - Bran (Mr. Bran Not Serious):

are you the dood i saw selling stone  for .4 on mant? who were you feeding?


01:23:19 Feb 4th 15 - Mr. Barny:


06:33:31 Feb 3rd 15 - Mr. Sherlock Holmes:

Is that message for real Barney or edited?


Sorry I never play hafling.... That is very funny. 

Does it matter where your adventurers are chilling? Next to a mountain/water/trees???



It's for real, that's unedited and right out of my news log! I like that one too because it makes it sound like Forestry Science is important when in reality it's so useless that finding Forestry Science is usually a bad thing.

I like this one too:
Friday - 4 days ago
21:00:24
Our adventurers found a very unusual crop! It increased our farming science.


It doesn't matter where your Adventurer are chilling. They used to have to be moving to find treasure (no longer the case), and in the past there used to be exploitable bugs like moving from map to map on shared worlds but these days your Adventurer can chill out anywhere and as long as they are 'On a Mission' and not in a city you will find treasure.


02:29:57 Feb 4th 15 - Mr. Eternal Slumber:

Feeding no one i couldnt get the damn natives to take it they should of taken it at .6 but refused all the way down to .4 lol I needed it for training/massive econ boost :p


15:37:40 Feb 4th 15 - Mr. Sherlock Holmes:

Thanks Barney for the explanation 


Because you crack jokes every now and then, I was debating if it was a joke or a real message. 

I like that one indeed


20:12:38 Feb 6th 15 - Mr. Barny:

I have confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt that I am in fact the MASTER LUMBERJACK, I suspect that I have found more forestry science than all other Halflings on GvE combined. but I will need to compare my treasure log to Horus's.

It's very interesting seeing all of the treasure logs (or at least Binhs) and seeing how similar they are in some ways, which partially confirms things everyone suspected about how treasure worked.


02:21:03 Feb 7th 15 - Mr. Barny:

I looked over the map extensively and talked with a few players on both teams to get some information that I otherwise didn't have access to.

This may seem obvious (now somewhat confirmed) but I am 99% sure that Good is now in a position where they cannot, within reason, lose the round unless Anonymous's AM army is unmatched.

Evil was not able to win the round early-mid era with a KD that lacked support players like Mages and lacked players angled for the lategame.

In the end it's probably a coordination issue. Our small amount of lategame players were still useful, We have 2 Dwarves and they both did useful things and fielded armies.

If/When Evil loses round 2 I think it will be because we have 10 Halflings and 5 Humans, one mage, and almost no one angling for the lategame yet we did not organize a successful push to end the era before the lategame.

At this point I think Good has Evil outfarmed and outmanned in terms of economy and stronger lategame armies. Our only remaining strong army belongs to Anonymous, and as expected 3+ different Orcs attacked him with strong armies throughout the era (as expected when a respected player picks elf):


03:56:47 Jan 11th 15 - Mr. Barny:

Is that Orc gonna run at our feared Elf player? I feel like I've seen this happen before.


08:16:01 Feb 7th 15 - Mr. Barny:

Just in time to not matter at all or be significant in any way! Ty based Lumberwizards

23:00:31 - Our adventurers found a treasure worth 107339000 gold


12:02:26 Feb 7th 15 - Alrisaia (Mr. Alrisaio The Black):

That is so OP lol.


13:49:20 Feb 7th 15 - Mr. Barny:

Indeed, Gold Treasure finds are the good treasure finds and what effectively allow you to turn larger amounts of EXP on large amounts of units into millions of adventurer in the super-lategame which is the only Halfling super-lategame victory mechanic.


15:14:14 Feb 7th 15 - Mr. Sherlock Holmes:

I am not who the victim is but I somhow reported someone's post lol, I am using the lame ass iphone, and as I was scrolling I got the message "thank for reporting ....." Lol


I think it might be either alrisaia or Barney. Oops !!!!

I am surprised I got no confirmation message prior....


01:27:08 Feb 8th 15 - Alrisaia (Lady Alrisaia The Prism):

I've done that thinking it's a reply button lol. I think it was Rora about two eras ago...


11:03:33 Feb 8th 15 - Mr. Barny:

Zeta's going to ban us all.


17:10:42 Feb 8th 15 - Rora (Empress Aurora):

Yes Alri that was me, Xerxes did it to me as well once by accident.


19:35:23 Feb 10th 15 - Mr. Trolling Troll:

Who casted the plague?


19:36:36 Feb 10th 15 - Zephyr (Marquess Hartmut):

Barney


00:56:15 Feb 11th 15 - Bran (Mr. Narb):

will era be ending shortly?


02:08:16 Feb 11th 15 - shyers (Mr. Goodieshyersshoes):

Are you giving up?


02:29:29 Feb 11th 15 - Mr. Trolling Troll:

We'll fight to the last man, however, the outcome has already been decided. We should at least start deciding on teams for next era. I can't imagine this era will last longer than a few days, if that.


10:33:56 Feb 11th 15 - Bran (Mr. Narb):

its just a matter of how long it takes for good armies to make their way to the bottom of the map. if you guys enjoy taking defeated towns then fine, but can we at least time it so arma expires by the time youre done?


10:40:13 Feb 11th 15 - Mr. Barny:


10:35:23 Feb 10th 15 - Mr. Trolling Troll:

Who casted the plague?


Me. The first one was a REALLY weak plague (10k~ power, 18 ticks) and the most recent one is a much stronger one.

I wanted to test something with Cure Plague and I imagine Plaguing the area where all of Good's armies/newly captured cities are probably hurts both teams but works out at least 60/40 in favor or Evil. I'd rather fight to the last man than give up, but it seems highly likely that Good has won and a lot of Evil players have already given up.

What do you guys think we should do regarding surrender/conceding on Good vs Evil? A lot of the time it's clear which team is ahead due to it being a 1v1 world, but I'd say that in situations like this we should still wait until it's 100% clear that one side has won.

I say we use VU battle logic: When one side is 3x the power% of the other side casting Armageddon is fair game.

That should give this round another 1-3 days, which is a fair balance between allowing the winning side to enjoy their victory without making the losing side suffer too much.


14:44:01 Feb 13th 15 - Mr. Barny:

Looks like Good has almost pushed through all of Evil's core, Good is moving pretty quickly so we may as well wait until they finish us off.

We want to fight it out until the end, and even if we've clearly lost Anonymous still has his AM stack and people are still fighting.


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