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Mantrax 50
22:44:54 Mar 6th 17 - Queen Freya II:

OK i think it's obvious now that RoC, an "honorable" kingdom, is pulling a dirty tactic by having a in protection player settle now in our core and mormonts core.


While we are long out of protection, we can't harm this player while he gets to build up with impunity for 3-4 days.

I didn't think kingdoms operated like that in this game.




22:48:38 Mar 6th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:


23:17:06 Mar 6th 17 - HorusPanic (Sir Panic):

The poor guy dropped untagged before he realized he wanted to play with us. It wasn't a dishonorable move and any honorable knight is obligated to defend themselves.


You should be impressed that he chose a kingdom that is forcing a relocation rather than joining the local scalawags. 


23:28:15 Mar 6th 17 - Queen Freya II:

I hardly see him relocating.  


00:59:01 Mar 7th 17 - HorusPanic (Sir Panic):

That's good to hear


04:49:43 Mar 7th 17 - King BurningLegion (Mr. Burninglegion The Fortbuilder):

Hes a troll, if he were an orc maybe we should be concerned.


05:33:22 Mar 7th 17 - Mr. Old Man:

21:44:54 Mar 6th 17 - Queen Freya II:

OK i think it's obvious now that RoC, an "honorable" kingdom, is pulling a dirty tactic by having a in protection player settle now in our core and mormonts core.


While we are long out of protection, we can't harm this player while he gets to build up with impunity for 3-4 days.

I didn't think kingdoms operated like that in this game.
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Talking about me like im not here :(
I am relocating, but it takes scouts a long time to walk :D


08:17:13 Mar 7th 17 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

"while he gets to build up with impunity for 3-4 days"

At which point you or your special friends will ruthlessly slaughter him because he is a week behind everyone :)


14:34:28 Mar 17th 17 - HorusPanic (Sir Panic):

holy balls, 10 days with no posts on a map with active wars


you all suck compared to me


07:46:38 Mar 18th 17 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

Not a lot to talk about. Almost everyone on Mant is NAP'd


19:34:02 Mar 18th 17 - Sir Moon Shine:

Looks like Ferox is coming to "bottom feed" what's left of FW???- before Mormont and/or Why So Serious gets everything. I wonder who is going to war next after us? RoC + Ferox vs. Mormont + Why So Serious? Man, Ferox + RoC is late to the party, probably dont stand a chance now since those other alliances are already getting spoils. You probably should start your wars sooner, otherwise you get nothing left.


20:55:57 Mar 18th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

We're farming happily. We dont want your warmongering here.


07:04:38 Mar 19th 17 - Jesus Left Toe (Lord Hasus):

Haven't FW been informed of our agreement? Once they are dead. We farm to the first 100m OP army. That person wins the era. GG


09:03:09 Mar 21st 17 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

FeRoc have moved out.
Did they get tired of waiting for Why so serious to beat us, or did they hear about how Why so serious generously donated their inactive players 200k to one of their farming elves, and figured they should attack sooner rather than later?

Could just be 22 days of complete boredom.


09:06:38 Mar 21st 17 - Kasakasz (Mr. Bolek The Different):

I call them FW relieve force


10:46:16 Mar 21st 17 - Mr. Blah Blah The Brutal:

As in Relieve FW of their towns?


11:49:07 Mar 21st 17 - Mr. Bling:

we came to rescue you


18:07:31 Mar 21st 17 - Mr. Justanius The Elf:

ferox are definitely saints in that case. Without them the world would be a cruel place. But yeah it seems everyone intends to fight FW, but hey it is what it is. 


18:09:00 Mar 21st 17 - Mr. Bling:

I am rescuing FW. Im holding their cities till all the other evil kds are dead. Fear not FW.


20:06:27 Mar 21st 17 - McMax (Battlemage Mcmax of Mantrax):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0



16:01:01 Mar 22nd 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

Comrads FW... i am here for your rescue. Now bow.


12:55:20 Mar 26th 17 - McMax (Battlemage Mcmax of Mantrax):

Well, looks like farming pays off afterall. Mantrax is only 27 days old and Stewie has already obtained this:

Big cities placed in their core (the 200K city must of course have been taken from "someone").

Atlantis

City Info
Owner: Mr. Stewie GriffindorKingdom Banner
Size: 200000 building(s).
Kingdom: Why So Serious
Race: Elf
Gates: no gates

Palace

City Info
Owner: Mr. Stewie GriffindorKingdom Banner
Size: 66444 building(s).
Kingdom: Why So Serious
Race: Elf
Gates: no gates


And a gigantic fearsome army:(plus at least one more minor 4x-army):

Through the eye we can see this information about The Dark Knight Rises from Mr. Stewie Griffindor:
Dark Knight Rises from Mr. Stewie Griffindor
Ghosts:0
Archers:0
Riders:0
Spellweavers:129254
Archmages:243963
Peasants:0




Well done so early I say :thumbs up:


22:51:38 Mar 26th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

Hoping this farming/feeding story is false, because if its true, I'm going to petition to have the era ended, and the feeder player banned, and kingdom disolved.


22:59:14 Mar 26th 17 - Insane (Mr. Insane Warrior):

FeROC complaining about farming lol


23:02:09 Mar 26th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

Farming is one thing. Farming a player to feed to another, is VERY much against the spirit of the game. And if its true, then we will chose one player, and feed 2 kingdoms to that one player. The game has checks and balances for this.


23:02:55 Mar 26th 17 - SFD (Mr. Sfd):

no....."bling" complaining about "Feeding" :P
and tbf if bob went inactive, it cant be helped... best choice would have been give the 200k to stew anyway (not bc he is a good player) just bc he would have left if you didnt ahaa :P

ofc im joking i rate stew, would have been an easy decision to give it to stew when he is elf..
you never know, you guys might get lucky and hanky goes inactive, give stew another 300k AM's  xD


23:03:53 Mar 26th 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie Griffindor):

@McMax: That "someone" was Napoleon/Freya, who just disappeared from the game without notice (hope he's ok in real life). We gave him about a week....he was still inactive, so we kicked him and I took his cities (a 200k city, and a 66k city). 


Considering the fact that we are fighting FW, RoC and Ferox....and the fact that RoC+Ferox did absolutely nothing but farm for the first 3 weeks of the era....I chose not to burn and destroy Freya's cities, but instead keep them for myself.

Regardless, I had three 90ks completed of my own even before I took Freya's cities, so yeah... I definitely out farmed you/Ferox.... QQ on mate ;)


23:17:32 Mar 26th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

Then I have no choice in the following.

I will be feeding all my income to a player from the alliance, and welcome any Ferox or RoC player, or FW player to do the same.


23:24:18 Mar 26th 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie Griffindor):

Yeah, that's what you call intentional feeding.


23:28:54 Mar 26th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

Feeding is feeding. I aint going to argue the point guys.


23:34:57 Mar 26th 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie Griffindor):

Alrighty then. You do you bro. Come back to skype tho! We miss you <3


23:54:13 Mar 26th 17 - Jesus Left Toe (Lord Hasus):

I have instructed my kingdom that feeding on Bling is not acceptable. As such, only Orcs and Trolls should do so, so no one can tell. ;)


23:57:34 Mar 26th 17 - The Real Josh (Peasant Fcuker):

Mcmax, Stewie is many things(a bad player is one of them :P) but he isnt a cheater, Tell me if you had a human 200ker owned by one of your player's who is inactive what would you do? 


Leave it there to be plundered as a treasure trove by invading or allied armies or have it taken by a member who required it more or could utilise it more.


00:02:40 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Bling:

You dont get it do you. You guys are fucking around with peoples time. People put time, effort into the game. When you feed a player to the point that no one is going to stop them, you rob everyone of a fair game experience.

I'm not calling Stewie a cheat, I'm saying its a bad kd decision choice. And that is why i've left the map, because I am not going to waste time, effort or anything else on a lost cause.
And in terms of choices. The choice would have been to leave that persons cities alone, unless it was a critical blocker.  So you can fuck around on that map all you want, fact is you've changed the balance of the good spirit of the game.
I may be a troll for 99% of the time, but I have never in good faith cheated anyone.


00:10:00 Mar 27th 17 - The Real Josh (Peasant Fcuker):

But using your idea of "Just leaving" have you EVER had enemy nazzies plunder an inactive players cities, that extra gold then puts YOU on the back leg, If you wanna complain to anyone complain to freya for putting the KD in the position of Feed or let feed.

Now i know its a suck situation but frankly it happens and your reaction is over-dramatic and best.


00:11:31 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

bnd the city then.

Took me all of a minute to make my decision.


00:16:15 Mar 27th 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie Griffindor):

All a matter of perspective, but imo farming for 24 days and then coming to gang bang a kingdom is also changing "the balance of the good spirit of the game".


That's just Albatrash tier tactics.


00:19:03 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

farming is something every kd can do. its part of the game.

Feeding a player is not. Stewie, you know i think you're solid, but this time you called the wrong KD choice. I know it wasnt intentional, but its a choice that seriously skews the balance.


00:32:55 Mar 27th 17 - Nayoke the Kid (Sir Eros Returns):

As a person who has been there/done that, I happen to agree with bling on this one... Gj WSS you got me. See you guys next era



00:37:46 Mar 27th 17 - The Real Josh (Peasant Fcuker):

Im sorry but i disagree purely on the base of hypocrisy bling.

Having an inactive player with a 200ker is something that HAS and will end wars, Allowing an enemy KD to capture that then use ALL resources and the city its self against you would be a foolish thing.

I mean what would have happend had Elsin or Binh or hell YOU bling captured that city? That city would have been their fall.

With all that aside i dont understand where you have gotten this renewed sense of justice, To bad you didn't have these same views when you have feed, perhaps Blings book of Honour and etiquette is slightly bias.


00:44:21 Mar 27th 17 - Nayoke the Kid (Mr. Dont Attack):

if it becomes a liability there is always the option of having the city BnD'ed while maintaining the integrity of the era. 


00:44:36 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

I have never fed on any player. I do a cull at end of era. Always have.

On zeta, I bnd'd two players cities, including a 90kr.  I am not gonna waste my time and effort fighting an enemy who has 3 times my income, through no efforts of their own. I will fight any player anytime. Shit, give me a 1% shot on your army and i will take it EVERY time. I will always be in the smallest kd on the map, and will ALWAYS be punching above my weight. But when the odds are so heavily stacked against me, then you steal both my time, effort and love of the game. Give me a fair fight, and i will always take it, middle finger in the air, win or lose. But dont tell me shit about cheating, because that is not my nature, and if you had fought alongside me for the last 10 years like JP, Cao or Sprout have, you would know im not that kinda player. I'll troll the fuck out of you, but i will never cheat you of the chance to give me a fair ass whooping.


00:50:22 Mar 27th 17 - The Real Josh (Prince Sladen):

interesting, Plunder the city first or you figured.. Nope these resources are poisonous, repugnant shit i dont want its cheating influence or you just straight burnt it getting nothing in return?

And i have played with you bling, many times in many KDS and i never called you a cheater as what has transpired ISNT cheating, its annoying but not cheating so deal with it.


00:54:40 Mar 27th 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie Griffindor):

@Bling:


Yeah fair enough man. I totally see your point. 

However, you also have to realize that we never planned to feed on our own player. It's unfortunate that we lost one of our most active and promising players...without any notice....in the middle of multiple wars. Any good kingdom in this (somewhat rare) situation, would do what they think is in the best interest of their kingdom.

I assessed the situation - which was that RoC (15 players) and Ferox (8 players) did absolutely nothing but farm for 3 weeks to pump big armies....and were now on their way to gang bang our core (while we were busy warring FW). So I did what I thought would be in my/ my kingdom's best interest. And you're more than welcome to disagree with the morality/fairness of it. 

But you're a total hypocrit if you're claiming that you wouldn't do the same thing in this exact situation. Matter of fact, I've fed on an inactive player in your very own kingdom and you didn't seem to have any problem then....so why the hypocrisy now?


00:57:19 Mar 27th 17 - SFD (Duke Sfdees Nuts):

*this just in,.... Shots fired!

"But you're a total hypocrit if you're claiming that you wouldn't do the same thing in this exact situation. Matter of fact, I've fed on an inactive player in your very own kingdom and you didn't seem to have any problem then....so why the hypocrisy now?"


00:59:47 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

Name the player that I allowed you to feed on that quadruppled your income?

Cause i know 7 players personally I can pick up the phone to, who would all restart their accounts, drop 200krs and then leave. And I'd give them the bts to speed it up too, as I have to many other players in the game.


01:10:01 Mar 27th 17 - Nayoke the Kid (Sir Eros Returns):

First off, when reading a Bling rant message, I would do so as if it were over a cold beer.


Secondly, I think the fact of the matter is that this 'panic' decision pushed you beyond any normal player to an extent which it has become 'almost' unreachable taking into consideration aotd... Even if used against you. Yes we farmed for a while and this may have been my first era back in around a year, however even as a farmed troll your raw OP was almost 3x mine. IRL if you abandon a factory it doesn't just keep producing goods, so to take advantage of that broken game mechanic can, well, break the game. 

The only world I could see this being acceptable on is Zeta for obvious reasons and Mant is not that world.

And once again if your worried about an abandoned city being taken over by the enemy... Just burn it


01:11:17 Mar 27th 17 - Stewie Griffin (Mr. Stewie Griffindor):

@Bling:

"I am not gonna waste my time and effort fighting an enemy who has 3 times my income, through no efforts of their own."

Ummm...I had three 90ks of my own + STGing all era even before I took Freya's 200k....so yeah, I probably had 3x your income even before Freya's city. All through efforts of my own ;) No need to be so jealous that I out farmed you.

"Give me a fair fight, and i will always take it, middle finger in the air, win or lose."

You, out of all people, can't be talking about fair fights buddy. You literally use 100s of BTs against your opposition every era to get the upper hand... please enlighten me about how that's a fair fight.

"Cause i know 7 players personally I can pick up the phone to, who would all restart their accounts, drop 200krs and then leave. And I'd give them the bts to speed it up too, as I have to many other players in the game."

Go ahead. I'm not stopping you by any means. But that's what you call intentional feeding. Very different than kicking an inactive player and taking their city.


01:18:05 Mar 27th 17 - Nayoke the Kid (Sir Eros Returns):

I can understand that winning an era can be cool and all, but this is about where the logic breaks down for me? Its like watching a tunnel-vision flame bearer fuck up the special olympics 


"I am not gonna waste my time and effort fighting an enemy who has 3 times my income, through no efforts of their own."

Ummm...I had three 90ks of my own + STGing all era even before I took Freya's 200k....so yeah, I probably had 3x your income even before Freya's city. All through efforts of my own ;) No need to be so jealous that I out farmed you.


01:20:39 Mar 27th 17 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

Stewie dude,


I have 2 90krs i've had since very early in the era, with 3 more in the process of dropping. So no, farming wise, i've had most of my kd beaten hands down. When i left, 6 cities are at 20% production, with income at 3 mill a tick, and all my sciences bought.

BT's are an option for any player to purchase. Hell, I bought binh some for shits and giggles, and it pays for zeta to want to be interested in the game. If you want BT's, buy some.

And feeding is feeding. There is no grey area. Its straight up feeding.


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