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Valhalla 81
08:56:50 Apr 28th 22 - Venus (Mr. Alexander of Macedon):

Hope for a good era for everyone!


09:51:10 Apr 28th 22 - Friendly Farmer Cyrone:

Let us all hope for an era where we can farm in peace with harmony and nature.


13:45:15 Apr 28th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

I wish NOBODY has a good era, ZERO fun, ESPECIALLY myself.


14:26:13 Apr 28th 22 - Venomz (High Warlord Typhoon):

Konspyre spotted:


18:30:15 Apr 28th 22 - HorusPanic (Sir Horus):

Urs checking in, not sure how many, but we’ll play hard


17:04:14 Apr 29th 22 - HorusPanic (Sir Horus):

I declare myself defacto leader of Urs - please channel your war requests through me


03:36:59 Apr 30th 22 - Venus (Mr. Alexander of Macedon):

Bigfield you feeding? I see that stone @ 1.15.


03:44:45 Apr 30th 22 - Ms. Jasmine:

No, he likes to mess up market prices, to prevent people from nativing I guess?


04:12:26 Apr 30th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

Fair question, fair answer. Current native price is .57 :)


07:44:18 Apr 30th 22 - Bigfield (Mr. Bigfield):

I'm selling market goods to the highest bidder. We are a mercantile Kingdom. Whilst I won't out the individual customers, I have no qualms showing which kingdoms are buying my goods.


I do seem to have at least one adamant purchaser of stone at that price point. I've not seen them on the map, yet.

Todays news
00:33:03
Player 3 of Elysium bought 500 food for 1000 gold from you on the market.

00:32:46
Player 3 of Elysium bought 5100 food for 10200 gold from you on the market.

00:32:32
Player 3 of Elysium bought 5000 food for 10000 gold from you on the market.

00:32:02
Player 3 of Elysium bought 1000 food for 2000 gold from you on the market.

Friday - 1 days ago
22:27:03
Player 4 of Raven Clan bought 30000 stone for 34500 gold from you on the market.

14:42:00
Player 3 of Elysium bought 5000 stone for 4950 gold from you on the market.

14:40:36
Player 3 of Elysium bought 50000 food for 60000 gold from you on the market.

10:48:20
Player 2 of Raven Clan bought 10000 tree for 30000 gold from you on the market.

09:28:45
Player 1 of Elysium bought 8000 stone for 7840 gold from you on the market.


07:47:51 Apr 30th 22 - Ms. Jasmine:

Elysium doing a kingdom name theme, Player 1, Player 2 etc.

Cool!


09:41:36 Apr 30th 22 - Venus (Mr. Alexander of Macedon):

I bought the food cause I sold at 1.1 instead of 1.  So I own up to that one since I made a mistake nativing.  Selling food at 2 or tree at 3 I wouldn't consider feeding.


The stone at 1.15 and now at 1.18 I see you didn't give the kingdom ...  and this is obvious feeding


20:18:30 Apr 30th 22 - Bigfield (Mr. Bigfield):

That was an editing error. To clarify.


09:28:45
Stud Gream of Elysium bought 8000 stone for 7840 gold from you on the market.

I have some others who have no kingdom and obviously it wouldn't show it. Elysium seems most interested in buying overpriced stone.

If they keep buying it, why stop? 


15:18:10 May 1st 22 - Mr. Retriever:

It supposed to be a nuub friendly world! As the world description says/ said. 


18:16:23 - Howdy lead by High Warlord Venomz attacked and took over Spaceship. They also took 3854 gold, 1663 stone, 0 tree, 722 food and 0 slaves from us! And 1276 of the peasants in the city where taken as slaves! We lost 29 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Axemen, 0 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters and 1276 peasants in the battle.

18:01:45 - Morale in Spaceship dropped because they are afraid Howdy will eat them!

17:02:56 - Howdy lead by High Warlord Venomz attacked and plundered Spaceship. They took 89224 gold, 38543 stone, 0 tree, 17975 food, 0 slaves and 135 peasants. We lost 20 Swordsmen, 0 Hammerthrowers, 0 Axemen, 0 Runemasters, 0 Cavemasters and 135 peasants in the battle.

17:01:39 - Morale in Spaceship dropped because they are afraid Howdy will eat them!


21:48:20 May 6th 22 - Venus (Mr. Alexander of Macedon):

Nvm


07:51:46 May 8th 22 - Venus (Mr. Alexander of Macedon):

Varian, why selling 56 million stone at 1.5?


08:18:06 May 8th 22 - Mr. Varian Wrynn:

Stopped STGing for good as war is started.


Screwing market, will native later. 


13:42:10 May 8th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

good luck! good to know i can finally stg :)


22:01:44 May 18th 22 - Phat (Mr. Bastard Son):

sup.


23:10:14 May 18th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

sup


23:20:22 May 18th 22 - Mr. Greijka:

sup.


00:20:17 May 19th 22 - Mr. Aquanewb:

Sup.


03:47:41 May 19th 22 - Princess Ayesha The High Priestess:

Definition from  Oxford Languages
verb
DATEDNORTHERN ENGLISH
  1. take (drink or liquid food) by sips or spoonfuls.
    "she supped up her soup delightedly"
noun
  1. a sip of liquid.
    "he took another sup of wine"


06:44:22 May 19th 22 - Jack Daniels The drunk (Dragonlord Jack The Unfriendliest):

using connotations not denotations Jasmina


09:43:11 May 19th 22 - Endless (Ms. Malakh Hamavet):

American 

What’s up?
sup


14:50:45 May 19th 22 - Ms. Jasmine:

I know, was a joke

But my execution was poor :D


03:01:22 May 20th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

Ravens plundered and attacked an inactive kingdom member of Elysium! Although we have let him be because we lack an orc to properly B&D him, this is clearly a sign that Jarl thinks anyone who disappeared should just be taken for whoever gets their first.
I will learn from his approach to this situation, and apply it myself as well in the future. If anyone has a problem with this; I'm just following his example to please PM him instead. :)

( if anyone mentions the funny as fuck "terrain walking", i would gladly have someone else do it to me, because it would just prove my blocker was shit <3 )


03:25:33 May 20th 22 - Ms. Jasmine:

You are saying Ravens as in whole kingdom? Good teamwork by us I guess then, I have no idea where that happened or who did that. Not to mention there was only one message to Dark that was close to one of those inactive cities and we have asked him not to attack, and he did not attack the city Greamland like someone from your kingdom have asked and he agreed. 


Do not know if anyone else was asked to not attack inactive cities, or if there was some kind of official agreement between the two kingdoms? Since you already stated on several occasions you will use terrain walking because if people don't know how to build blockers you should be able to walk around. So I do not expect anything else from you to be honest.


03:38:16 May 20th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

Oh? So we need to actively message people about any potential abuse or bad sportsmanship before it happens now? Of course it's you defending defending these practices when you are the one benefiting from it.
You say whatever you want to regardless of consistency over the eras, as like as you're on the winning side of it.

I personally pm'd Dark Spawn to confirm the native city was off limits because of the fant multi situation, but apparently it's too much for me to have some faith in your kingdom respecting inactives without confirming every single thing.

Any time you call me a cheater based on me walking past a bad blocker on one Mant era is clearly just you projecting your guilty conscience and trying to deflect the issue.


03:39:55 May 20th 22 - Jarl Eivor:


Konspyre:

Ravens plundered and attacked an inactive kingdom member of Elysium! Although we have let him be because we lack an orc to properly B&D him, this is clearly a sign that Jarl thinks anyone who disappeared should just be taken for whoever gets their first.
I will learn from his approach to this situation, and apply it myself as well in the future. If anyone has a problem with this; I'm just following his example to please PM him instead. :)

( if anyone mentions the funny as fuck "terrain walking", i would gladly have someone else do it to me, because it would just prove my blocker was shit <3 )


Lol excuses, I can't help I owned 115k ponies in your core and took defenseless cities that only cost me 60k mages. You are hypocrite to complain about anything in this game lol


03:40:40 May 20th 22 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnarson):

Moving an army passed a city intended to block is nothing compared to plundering a few hundred million GC and stone. Maybe he didn’t know Wizard disappeared, tho then I would question why he went straight for those cities. Tho, I think we should have split wizards good between our own players, instead our opponents get it…


03:45:19 May 20th 22 - Jarl Eivor:


Konspyre:

Oh? So we need to actively message people about any potential abuse or bad sportsmanship before it happens now? Of course it's you defending defending these practices when you are the one benefiting from it.
You say whatever you want to regardless of consistency over the eras, as like as you're on the winning side of it.

I personally pm'd Dark Spawn to confirm the native city was off limits because of the fant multi situation, but apparently it's too much for me to have some faith in your kingdom respecting inactives without confirming every single thing.

Any time you call me a cheater based on me walking past a bad blocker on one Mant era is clearly just you projecting your guilty conscience and trying to deflect the issue.

First I gunned for your cities and got 100 mil gold worth from you by hitting your wh city and burned your homes because I cared more about burning your cities than beating elysium lol only after I took out anewbis cities...only then days later have I hit Alexander's city. You are a whiner complaining about anything you can wheather you win or lose you still whine.


03:45:29 May 20th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

Inactive players get "The people of this city has not heard from it's ruler in a very long time!" on their cities, as anyone with vision can confirm in Elysium core before Jarl "no honour" Eivor takes them all.
Ownage is one thing, something to learn from.
Jarl abusing these situations just because we don't have an orc is a whole other situation.
Imagine if we took and razed the cities? They'd cry endlessly. Babies.


03:53:03 May 20th 22 - Jarl Eivor:


Konspyre:

Inactive players get "The people of this city has not heard from it's ruler in a very long time!" on their cities, as anyone with vision can confirm in Elysium core before Jarl "no honour" Eivor takes them all.
Ownage is one thing, something to learn from.
Jarl abusing these situations just because we don't have an orc is a whole other situation.
Imagine if we took and razed the cities? They'd cry endlessly. Babies.


I guess FW has no honor as they plundered and took shepp who was publicly inactive for weeks lol hypocrite 


03:58:50 May 20th 22 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnarson):

Ya, poor Newb (been playing for a month or so) made the mistake of not protecting his armies enough. Lol. You taught him a hard learned lesson. 


04:09:13 May 20th 22 - Lady Jasmina:

04:38:16 May 20th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

Oh? So we need to actively message people about any potential abuse or bad sportsmanship before it happens now? Of course it's you defending defending these practices when you are the one benefiting from it.
You say whatever you want to regardless of consistency over the eras, as like as you're on the winning side of it.



Isn't that exactly what you were doing in Mantrax when I wrote to you telling you its not ok to walk over terrain around a perfectly placed blocker. You laughed and continued to do your thing, even after even your own teammembers refused to do what you did. So you calling out for potential bug abuse is worth more than my complaining?

This is similar to what happens every era in Fantasia, Imperium vs Zerkers arguments, they will never lead to anything so there is really no point in wasting effort in writing stuff there. Similar here, you guys have your point of view, and we have ours and nobody will change. In perfect world multi would have been deleted, cities armies and everything, but we know VU is far from a perfect game. 




04:09:49 May 20th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

Huh? This is Valhalla, you're the abuser. I don't remember even seeing Schepp on Mant last era. If he was in ROC or Riven, did you not have any orcs? If you did, you have no right to even use that as an excuse, you're just trying to deflect your scummy behaviour away. Shame on you.


04:13:36 May 20th 22 - Jarl Eivor:

Same type of player different worlds. Fight scum by being a scum. 


04:20:19 May 20th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

admitting you're scum? nice, thanks, helps my argument.
Keep giving me hate for just playing the game the way it has been played since it was first made man, but glad we atleast we agree you have no morals :)


04:26:18 May 20th 22 - Jarl Eivor:

You're complaining about doing the very things you do lol delusional is what I'd call you if that's what you got from that post. 


04:28:11 May 20th 22 - Konspyre (Captain Morgan):

Deflecting again, when have you ever seen me do what you're doing now? Never.
Last time you called me a cheater it just turned out you just didn't know how Trolls work.
Grow up.


04:29:17 May 20th 22 - Jarl Eivor:

So is it scum to attack a city of someone who is inactive or not??? Let's make it real simple.


04:31:34 May 20th 22 - Jarl Eivor:


Konspyre:

Deflecting again, when have you ever seen me do what you're doing now? Never.
Last time you called me a cheater it just turned out you just didn't know how Trolls work.
Grow up.


And I still have my doubts about you cheating because of your personality you're okay with it as long as you can get away with it so don't act like a Saint here buddy lol you're garbage calling garbage lol no better than anyone else playing the game in their own perception. 


04:32:00 May 20th 22 - Endless (Ms. Malakh Hamavet):

it’s not


04:36:53 May 20th 22 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnarson):

I’m sorry Jazz, but making sure your blocker blocks has always been on the person who made the blocker. I’m sure you have had this happen many times over the past decade, I know I have (even tho I’ve taken many brakes from the game over my time here). With that said, its not a good argument against attacking inactives to claim hypocrisy on Jas for that. Personally, I wanted to take Wizards cities for myself, but Konstant and Jas wouldn’t let me. I thought we should then probably have mentioned it to the entire server. I did mention it to Moff tho (just thought he should know I guess) I miss Wizard, I haven’t gotten along with someone so well so quickly before. You guys who know me know I love you all, but I just wish we could all play the same set of unwritten rules, and get along better :)


04:42:06 May 20th 22 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnarson):

Taking the city of a (non-tagless) player who has disappeared for weeks, as I understood, was off limits to everyone. If the KD that player was in has an orc to burn and destroy, that was how it’s delt with. Am I wrong?


Jarl, my question for you is, did you know Wizard (Alexander) had been MIA for two weeks and still to this moment? 


04:45:56 May 20th 22 - Ms. Jasmine:

The city last era in Mantrax was built using scout terrain option and it was carefully placed by a semi new player and after asking Konstant he even said city can't be placed better in that area. Jasper claims if its possible to walk over terrain you can build there too, which is simply not true. You can never place blocker well on some parts of the map due to poor mapping of the maps. Admin should work more on map but we know that will never happen. I would not make a big deal of the blocker it was poorly placed but even Konstant confirmed it can't be placed better. Roxy, member of Jaspers kingdom later refused to walk over terrain but chose to wait till cw is made and walk over.


What annoyed me most is the way Jasper than defended the action and claimed its just part of the gameplay. Even wrote to him for him to explain how is that ok, but he then called me arrogant and its almost replicate of the way the conversation is going on him talking to Jarl. I am very well aware that blockers do not block 90% of the cases, heck I don't think any blocker on this map blocks actually, but people usually  have some kind of respect and will not do stuff that might be unhonorable. But with Zerker type of gameplay and Jasper going into arguments with numerous players the honor code in the game has been placed sideways, as many have already told me they will use all sorts of tricks and possibly shady plays to counter players who consider bug abuse to be just normal gameplay. 


04:49:13 May 20th 22 - Ms. Jasmine:

05:42:06 May 20th 22 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnarson):

Taking the city of a (non-tagless) player who has disappeared for weeks, as I understood, was off limits to everyone. If the KD that player was in has an orc to burn and destroy, that was how it’s delt with. Am I wrong?



I do not think that has ever been an unwritten rule in the game. I highly doubt kingdoms like FW, Zerkers, Mad, and several others would not plunder an inactive. This situation is a bit different due to the guy that was multing in Fantasia and ruining the era for everyone, and happened to be here as well, so his cities went native. By the way, you guys understand you can't plunder Native People? Its only possible to take over. I personally had no idea anyone else went inactive, but then again I have not been checking cities of members, was only checking the blocker cause there where I am.





04:49:59 May 20th 22 - Endless (Ms. Malakh Hamavet):

Why would it be off limits? it’s a war game.


When a player goes MIA the kingdom needs to decide, kick and feed, kick and burn, do nothing and spoils potentially go to opponent.

Funny, third confirmed time for Wizard/Gollum/Venus going MIA

spoils to opponent = 2
burned =1

Someone is having fun with everyone in VU.


04:50:45 May 20th 22 - Ragnarson (Mr. Ragnarson):

Ok, I see. This is more or a personal thing. Lol, feels like I walked into a shit show. 


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