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Whats wrong i did
02:19:45 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Jackdaniels, maybe you did fight but most from RoC not. I send msg to 3 people for give me EiS before decide to send my army 36tic away for help you....not get reply for 16h! I send msg to one from your KD members to open his gates or i cant pass path and come to help....no reply too. Sorry but here no way to go help if you don't care for all war.
I'm not tell it for excuse. Here no need it. Its was WAR 1vs1 KDs same size. You cant blame me for not help you. WE have NAP but not MAP.

All your reason for attack me now is nonsense. RoC broke NAP for no reason. You come to ask me for safe rebuild RoC under my core area and i tell you "YES" because you just loss hard war. Here no need to have NAP or Be friend to you for act like human. What you do now? I just end hard war with Bane and you attack me. Do you see differences how i and your kd act in similar situation. So don't try to talk about honor when you don't know what tis mean.

Karac: If you was really good for over 24h you need to understand your mistake and find way to fix it. I did what EVERY one will make in my situation. You cant set block on my core...you cant set block on my exit in active war. You get free pass to my core because provide me fake info and abuse it for attack. I never treat you ...all what did is to explain why its not acceptable to have there block and you know it very well...but you use this for excuse to attack us first.


02:36:46 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Thanks for your comment Crissxcross. You have a lot points there never mind i cant agree with all. My main mistake was to expect i can get friendly relation with your KD. Its was pretty clear from Begin when Drakos offer me nonaggression relation for his prov only (wen he don't have army around) but noting for his KD.... with army around. I know he is fooling me with this dip-lo and right was to kill Karac army, but i don't have any for loss so noting bad to try harder if here is way to get good relation. Killing some one in top chart hurt but killing me is: :)

Good from all this story is i have extra fun ;)


02:51:29 Oct 8th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

You didnt even hit me. It was your fellow n00b, and as I said, exploratory force, get ready for the real show....


02:52:19 Oct 8th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

My city was also not a blocker, it would not grow to block, nor did i build any gates, your thinking is still 100% flawed.


03:28:57 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

I didn't hit you because i never planed / wanted it. My goal wast to make new friends.

What is the feeling to be smacked from 1st era n00b :P Do you use medicine for sleeping now :D
Get your 80k zerc and come to make you picture. I want to show my friends WHO we smacked on 1st era ;)


09:22:32 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Jackdaniels:

we'll according to my kd leader we didnt have a nap and deception is the greatest tactic in military history and any ways have you read the art of war by sun tzu cause i'm pretty sure hes was a very honorable guy and according to him to deceive your opponent is to win and i guess my deception worked cause you were gulable enough to believe it but on the other hand your doing great so far but i'm not sure how long you can hold out if karac decides he's gonna sticck his foot down your throat so you cant complain any more but your doing pretty good so far


09:42:38 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Tell me why your KD and you expected from me help if we didn't have any relations. Tell me why you are pissed on me for not help, when "deception" is what you accept for normal in war :)

I'm SAD from this only because from my early era chat with Kev i get very good impression from him. Now its all gone. Its no mater if you or we will win this too. Very soon big KDs will make his naps and go hunt for us...so we all are dead already :P

About Karac i'm so happy he is so pissed. Its easy for him to be "honorable" with other Big KDs but he was very arrogant with us. I don't like double standards. Now after all this story i cant die because he will remember me for ever :D

Fun ye ;)


11:23:09 Oct 8th 09 - Warlord Harkaa:

I'll stand with Karac on this one. He has always been honourable both when i was fighting his KD, and when I was in his KD. He has always played fair for as long as I can remember, and is both honourable and honest.

I've got your back soldier ...


11:42:36 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Warlord Harkaa, maybe he was honorable before, but he did terrible lame vs us. First he VULTURE kd in war and get City. Second he promise wont attack us when notice we can kill his army...to can get free pass in our core.Next He attacked us with no notice "because he was ordered" what is enough reason to loss all my trust to him. This is very good reason to ask him to remove his block from my core....not include NO 1 KD will accept his block in his core!!! He know it perfect well but because he is ARROGANT decide to use it for excuse and attack us.
I don't care how he act in past all what mater is how he act vs us and cant admit his mistake.


14:29:22 Oct 8th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

Elit, is WASN'T your core, you don't seem to be comprehending that through your thick skull.

And you killed a tiny army. I killed a ton of vet armies in my first era, but until you actually kill something worth noting, you'll still be a n00b who thinks he is bad ass, don't worry, the opportunity will be there in 2 RL days. I'm not even going to bring my whole 80k zerks, they are not necessary, only 28k are.

See, I'm nice, I'm even telling you what I'm bringing, get ready if you can.

^^ Oh, Level 9 Mil Sci, just so you can calculate properly.


14:33:36 Oct 8th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

Oh, keep twisting the facts to favor your story, I'm not even going to respond to your bullshit anymore. No one here supports you, you've been told you are wrong. One person has supported you, but not said why you are right. Game over, go back to the drawing board, and try to drag someone with a name not nearly as Honorable as mine through the mud you pathetic piece of shit. Go find another game if you can't hack this one, cause seriously, I will not put up with another retarded n00b posting 'This Vet attacked me, so he is unhonorable', fuck it, grow balls, do your talking with fighting.

^^ OH, to your previous post.... YOU never attackid me, it was Seijim. So, when your shit ass Hobgoblin armies come over, prepare for your chance, god, when you are actually worthy, come back and talk to me, until then, go hide under a rock, and jerk it cause you can't get a girl. Now I'm ranting, so, I digress...

 

P.S. Seeing how far I can push it til I get a warning ;)


16:03:07 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Ye its fair warning but after send RoC after us i don't think we will have time to prepare something special for welcome :P

About "bullshit" its all what you did. You get "bot" support from people who not bother to check facts. Only your KD mate Crissxcross read them and did decent comment but his Analise is not correct because he skip most important part fro all story...when you attack us after tell clear you wont. After this action no one will accept your colony around...but you are so pride and blind to admit it.


16:07:58 Oct 8th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

You are not seeing the bigger point. After I accepted, and started walking away, you started making demands to a better player. You do not do that. Threats do not go well with me.


16:22:43 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Don't think we can make consensual and look like we both tell all what we wanted so i will move on.


18:16:04 Oct 8th 09 - Duke Random:

RIGHT THATS IT NUB PUNCHING TIME >:D

YOU DIDNT LAY OFF MUH KARAC >:@


18:39:17 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Dargoth:

lol


18:40:41 Oct 8th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

Lay off ya? I wanna lay ON ya ;)


19:19:43 Oct 8th 09 - Duke Drakos:

"Whats wrong I did ?".....you posed the Q, here is the answers.

#1) you started this thread
#2) You confused the personal NAP I had between your Kd and myself as a Kd NAP. I told you numerous times that Karac was NOT NAP with you, nor was PHI, just me.
#3) Even though Karac had no NAP with you, he decided to honor mine and pulled back, then you started talking smack and took his city.
#4) I told you I would stay out of it and keep it between you and Karac UNLESS it escalated to a Kd wide thing, OR you hit me. You then swatted my scouts and army...kinda short sighted, as now I am involved.
#5) you wrote me again, asked for a KD NAP, I said it was far too late in the era for that. You then wrote Mavich and received the very same reply.
#6)  I couldn't even have hit you due to your size, but you hit me, and now I can.
 As an aside, Crissx is right, when BoW isn't going and I am in PHI or any other KD its because I need a few era's off from being really active. Mavich knew I'd be part-time when I joined, thats why I am not the Diplomat, talk to Crissx for that.


19:56:40 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Well i didn't plan to post more but Drakos really impressed me.

1st I started it because I'm Right. Karac acted like cheap hunter for easy gains.
2. Your personal NAP on place where you have ZERO army mean noting.
3. I never tell Karac i will get his city i tell him i don't like it there! I don't need to explain why i don't want his colony in my core... its pretty clear. I wanted to find diplomatic solution he attack 1st.
4. You stay out and i did same...but Karac attack and get 2 cities/raze all (How LAME). What i'm supposed to do. Give him for free all my Colony to can keep personal NAP with you? Are you asking me for farming him? Every one in this game when get attack strike back.
5.Its 1st tme when you tell clear for no NAP. Mavich tell me he is busy with other wars and don't care for me at all :)
6. LoL. You send me msg its time for war no more talk. You send few spy in my core followed from RoC army ...and i don't have any idea you cant attack me :D Look like you really well know how to trick new and ppl abuse game rules. Good Job.


19:59:26 Oct 8th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

Elit, you keep making yourself look like a retard.Go back to fucking dolls, with those diplomacy skills, its where ya came from.


20:30:36 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Karac, are you stupid or you are much stupid? Every who bother to check story and he is objective will tell: you acted like ass. WTF is this "I dont have hostile plans just want to move from there" and 12h later you attack us with "sorry its order" WTF is this??? How you expect from any one to accept from person like you to have colony in his core? You prove your word MEAN NOTING. You know perfect well your DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SET COLONY THERE! Try same vs another Similar size KD and see result. How you can respond on diplomatic talk with simple attack and act like 12 yers old and after get retal call "DAD" and another KD for save your ass!

Drakos ! I'm not surprised Your son act like this. WTF mean your PERSONAL NAP when you CANT hit me ??? Are you fooling around with new people???
You both are so pro! Keep the good job...


20:41:49 Oct 8th 09 - Lord Wraith The Inactive:

God you're a girl...

Go Wolflords!!!!


20:49:38 Oct 8th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

Am I the only one who finds this guy retarded? We are the vets, and yet, THIS MOTHER FUCKER knows the game and its politics better than us. Your right blowjob king, we BoW before your infinite wisdom, please, teach us the rules of the game with which we are so UNFAMILIAR with. Please, I mean seriously, I'd also love for you to explain to me how to unzip my pants, I've been doing that for so long too, I'm sure I've fucking forgotten how. Please, teach me the right way, and by that, I mean queer, no idea what you're talking about way.

Play for 4 years, then come back and let me know I am not knowledgable in game politics you waste of brains. If god was going to make you retarded, atleast he could have made you Rain Man retarded.

Seriously, you hit a small army, you're fucking god now? I just killed more troops than you did, wait, I'm god. Fuck yourself, and if you think about replying, again, just go Fuck yourself.

That's it, I'm done, I learned a long time ago not to mess with the mentally handicapped. But one more thing, if you do have those training sessions, please, sign me up.

 

-The Wolflord-

Thanks Wraith ;)


21:24:32 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Karac, are you pissed a bit? :P


21:55:01 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Death Stalker:

Dude, no one from crazy's posted on this page yet :O :O :O


22:13:00 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Jackdaniels:

well elit if you have so much honor why are sitting here crying and trying to get pity from other players if it were me that would have happened to i'd be plotting some god damn revenge not trying to get some god damn pity suck it up and show that you have some real fuckin honor and karac has all the respect he'll ever need from a lot of players ok so stop trying to smear him and good luck trying to smear roc rep either cause most people will tell you that your smoking to much crack also if you had all this honor you claim you have becuase never once have i seen and honorable man cry because he got beat by people who were better faster and stronger than him so why dont you prove you have all this honor instead of saying you do


23:02:43 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Jackdaniels, Revenge right now is not possible. Last 2 week...war was very destructive for us. You are more and stronger from. You already admit RoC use deception so don't talk for "honor".

About post in forum...its just different way to keep fight...Most people love to think they are honorable, and hate when other prove they are not. Karac Simple power played us.He revise nonsense supporter in forum. Only his KD mate Crissxcross did real post/comment. Maybe his supporter from Fate/Pulse will give him to build block on Fate/ Pulse core if he want to move around...or maybe they wont?

We all know how this will end so don't be mean and ask me for revenge right now.


23:10:12 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Jackdaniels:

i want your dumb ass to attack me i fucking dar you to come throw every last pos troop you have at me and see how far it will get your income could quadrouple mine and i could still hurt you more than you could me and any ways all is fair in love and war so looking at that trust no one but yourself

also since i know i'm not honorable never once did i say i wasn't i also dont bitch when i get my as kicked i thank my enemy for doing it because the only way to learn is to fail and not to is to not learn so maybe you should learn something and i think its called dont be a baby back bitch


23:10:29 Oct 8th 09 - Prince Whiskers The Feline God:

Mr. Elit



Report


17:02:43 Oct 8th 09
We all know how this will end so don't be mean and ask me for revenge right now.
Yeah, with this topic being shut down from being an eyesore :|


23:11:49 Oct 8th 09 - Mr. Jackdaniels:

well i'm out of here this is pointless to talk with a person who has orthodoxy views so have fun in hell i'll see you there


23:34:01 Oct 8th 09 - Lord Wraith The Inactive:

God, this girl still going?!
Elit, got a little PMS? Shut the f*ck up and play the game. You're a whiny little loser, get over it :)


01:00:18 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Atreides:

Wow, Elit, just quit while you're ahead. There was obviously some degree of misunderstanding, but acting like a complete retard has done away with any sympathy that might have been felt.

Next time you make a request of another player, make sure it doesn't sound like an order. Maybe you'll avoid getting destroyed. You've already made a bad impression your first era, and my advice is to just shut up and do better next time.


02:42:17 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Vangard:

I think unlike most of u who side w/ ppl uve known in the past.  If a serial killer kills for the first time do we say, well hes nvr killed b4 so he COULDN'T have done it, no we go by wat has happened and i think Karac is at fault here.  U obviously were going to attack him u just got pissed that he figured it out b4 it happened.

@ Wraith, seeing as ur not apart of this and are on Midgard and can't even see wats going on u have no right to be throwin insults around

@ Atreides, who r, u again like Wraith prolly have no idea wats going on, so instead of acting like a complete retard u could keep ur mouth shut


03:29:25 Oct 9th 09 - Prince Whiskers The Feline God:

And then there are people who come in here and insult people that just add to the fire...maybe they read the statements and made their judgements based off of them? Isn't that what this entire argument is about? :|


04:01:38 Oct 9th 09 - Sir Struddle:

HAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII KARAC IT'S BEEN FOREVERZ HOW HAVE YOU BEEN. Btw I support Karac on this one I think the other guy is just quite wrong in this situation.


04:07:23 Oct 9th 09 - Sir Atreides:

@ Vangard

Who are you? Elit, in his first post, clearly presented what happened and asked for an objective judgement of the situation. As someone who has no idea what happened, I'm obviously better qualified to give such an opinion. Also, if you're going to call me a retard, at least attempt to sound intelligent.


04:47:20 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Mafia:

You got an issue!!?? Use a Tissue!!!


05:14:28 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Vangard:

I didn't call u a retard i was just repeating what u wer saying to Elit, just goes to show how u looked


05:31:22 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Elit:

LoL some ppl play from so long VU and complete loss idea what is right and what is not. All from Karac supporter not answer are they will give him to build block on his core. You are just flaming around, main its people from RoC. I don't see from what you are so proud....why from ~30 members you are now 11? Maybe RoC suck?

Are you all so stupid to cant see what pathetic nap deal did Drakos? What mean his personal nap when he know perfect well he cant attack me and i wont go after him/phi. Are its a Joke? He know very well if he send army/spys with RoC armies i will attack him and he will avoid game protection. Tell me is not dirty trick and abuse game rules? Only retard can support this.

Keep jump around and happy flaming, its only prove how much bad losers have in VU.


05:57:30 Oct 9th 09 - Duke Kevdwayne:

Matters such as this are not something I usually engage in but since Mr. Elit accused ROC of spying I am compelled to do so.  First and foremost Mr. Elit ROC and Seasons did not have a NAP, there is no documentation supporting your claim and (you can ask anyone about this) I have NO NAPs this era, not with Phi, not Rebirth, not Crazy and certainly not with you.  Cease Fires (CF's) yes but, no NAP's, MAP's or SCHMAPP's (sarcasm)... I loathe them.  My initial feeling this era was to encourage you to join ROC (which you refused, your choice) then I wanted to just wipe you out.  Unfortunately I was persuaded by a member not to (said member no longer a member of ROC), that you were a 'great guy' and I should make an alliance with you.  When the going got tough with Rebirth you said
Mr. Elit (9/15/2009 12:26:17 PM) GOOD BAD

I asked Rebirth for NAP and they agree. Sorry but last 24h your KD was terible inactive and no 1 answer me. I dont know waht you dont raze bildings at least before give towns Rebirth. I will get Ruffing so Rebirt wont have reason to come closser to me after your corre. GL and hope we can meet again.

So, my standing is 1) I spared you beginning of era and attempted to form a long standing relationship with you  2) as soon as the going got tough you baled 3) we are meeting again, just not as you would have wanted.

One more thing, you play Utopia (about the most asinine game I have ever encountered) and VU is not Utopia.... there is a map and there is not a dozen other friggin' programs to download so you can understand (or rather Act like you understand) what ever the hell that game is all about.  Everyone I have ever encountered that plays that game and comes to VU has the same damn attitude... and it is not good.  And that is my side of the story.  Thank you for indulging my rant.

Kevdwayne


06:19:37 Oct 9th 09 - Prince Whiskers The Feline God:

If you are just going to call everyone losers, please quit. 

You best be trollin elsewhere.


07:00:32 Oct 9th 09 - Lord Wraith The Inactive:

Vangard, get bent :)
Unlike 90% of the people here, I read everything and gave my views. Many people have given opinions, its their right and you can't refuse that. Karac also took responsibility for some of the argument but Elit kept on and on and on. Elit is just a whiny little baby, he can either learn to grow up,. or get smacked every era.Besides that, Karac is someone whos reputation I know. ROC is a KD I've been with since I started. Kev would never do anything to act "dishonourable" in any light. In fact, we were talking about Elit just a few days ago over MSN.
Btw, Midgard? The minute someobody posts in politics forum, or any forum for that matter, its a free-for-all . for any who see fit.
So again I say, go fuck yourself, Vangard...

On a side note; if you come for me.. I dont give a rats ass. I'm just screwing the era away so threats are useless ;)


07:39:00 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Elit:

I'm not call everyone losers, Just when group from people jump same time one 2 and talk so mean...is not look good. When every one will make same what we did but most don't want to admit it and prefer to flaming its not good too.
If i was accepted Karac to keep his colony in my core soon or later here will be story how he attack us with no notice ....and i'm sure all people will come and tell : its our fail for give him to set colony in our core. Why people cant look on story/facts objective.
From most people only Crissxcross really try to be constructive and talk well.

Kev, i don't keep logs from era begin and prove we have nap or not.How you post i wanted to help you but none reply me so its normal to see if can get nap from rebirth. They was very scary to me and killed RoC so fast. I don't want to argue with you and understand your view. Just next time if we are separate place and yo loss war can be sure i will visit you ;)

Abut Utopia and VU. Utopia is maybe oldest browser game in Net. He was 2 servers with 150k and 80k people. VU never can get 1-2k. Because there no protection for smallest vs bigger.No one is happy when 5-30 People jump vs 1-2. Tell why new people need to play and wont be pissed? In utopia have very effective protection for smallest provinces/kd and when good kd hunt after them all other call this kd "farmers". We are attacked all era from bigger and stronger kds.
I convince anther person to join and we are 3 people but how he can build any colony and learn game when all time other kds get them. He is all time active in irc but not bother more with VU because here no chance for him and its not fun.
Why most people there don't try to understand main problem from this story and just blind support his "old friend".
Don't forget in main post i didn't tell any name to keep flaming off! Just how its ha pend in game "big people" come and tell :n00b go die we dont care for you". If people treat me like this don't be surprised if i'm reply offensive too.


07:44:59 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Arthur Dent:

Blah Blah Blah... Yadda Yadda Yadda. Boring. Ok, it's a frickin war strategy game, suck it up you guys. Best of luck to ya guys, blah blah... Can we just end this thread now? I will not waste my time reading all this, but from what i can see it is just you guys carrying on the exact same things. Pointless thread, and Elit, if this's really your first era, just stay out of the spotlight until you're not a n00b anymore. And please no one say anything about me being a n00b, not nice :(


08:47:55 Oct 9th 09 - Dr. Raving Lunatic:

Blah Blah Blah... Yadda Yadda Yadda

Yep


10:25:08 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Crissxcross:

Hey don't be so mean about n00bs, every1 was once a n00b himself. And every1 got killed few times before he understood the game and its mechaincs right, and some are still getting killed though they think they understood the game allready ^^.

So don't be messy because some1 is a n00b.

Elit is new to the game and not familar with the unwritten laws of VU, so he has to learn it the hard way first, because he has not joined an established kingdom with players inside who could tell him how the game is working.

So don't push it over with flamez.

And @Elit, don't take this issue personal. In VU you only survive when you have strong allies and are inside a strong kingdom. Else somewhen some1 from a strong kingdom with strong allies will come and take your towns. ANd if he is not strong enough he will show up with backup from other players.
So it is important in this game to make friends who support you, even when you are doing mean things like bashing n00bs ^^.

So my suggestion to you is to find those friends arorund here and create or join a strong kingdom. Then you do not have to be afraid of getting N00binized. But therefore you should stop lament arround of getting attacked .

In VU people are showing their value on the battlefield and not with "whining" at the forums.
Once you have proven youself there, people will listen more to what you are writing here.
Till then almost every1 is not interested in your comments, no matter if false or right. And will only flame you if you do not stop lamenting.


10:29:56 Oct 9th 09 - Sir Penguinus Prime:

YOU BORN! now thats what you have done wrong...


10:39:23 Oct 9th 09 - Mr. Elit:

Well i get a lot knowledge from this topic and answers. Some people can be pissed from making it but this was useful for me. Crissxcross is proved again like very reasonable and constructive so Thanks. Best what we can do now is to move on.
Peace.


15:38:04 Oct 9th 09 - Wolflord Karac:

Everyone, I thank you for the support, now please, no more flaming, foul language, or any of the above, I apologize for dragging it that low, now let's clean it back up please.

 

 


01:45:36 Oct 10th 09 - Sir Struddle:

Friendly word of advice:

Elit maybe you should try and get in contact with some of the more veteran players that tend to be neutral in most aspects of this. I understand Karac may not seem like the person to talk to but he's actually very knowledgeable about the game along with Crissx and Drakos maybe you should talk to them about some of the game mechanics and what is best. Even joining a kingdom that has been around may help you with learning how it all works.

We all were new to the game at some point and we've all been in your shoes. What most people look for now is how you react. Are you gonna tough it out and ask questions and come back or just fade away and give up? I hope you stick around we could use more players that are willing to learn and continue to give this game a chance.


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