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Mr. Samulis The Magnificent

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12/2/2008 3:59:37 PM

If you guys don't like how the game is, then DO all the programing, send it to him, and ask him to test and install it. It's that simple, if you want to change it, become a programmer and do it!

Spend less time talking and fussing, and more time DOING.

You want a new map? Make a new map.

You want a update on pictures? Make a update on pictures.

You will then see how much work it is to be a programmer, countless codes, countless hours sitting drawing and drafting, dozens of questions from people.

wanna kiss Zeta's ass some more? you obviously don't know how any of this stuff works. I'm not saying that I do, but at least I can recognize this so that I don't act pedantic about something that I'm ignorant about

he's been "changing" the game for a while now and no improvements have been made. arma was useless to begin with. how does getting rid of it help? it seems like Zeta chooses 1 thing each era that is "wrong" with the game and takes the easiest approach to "fix" it. walls are bad? delete them. arma sucks? delete it. dwarves are overpowered? make them suck (yeah they were overpowered, but now they're just crap). countless suggestions have been made but Zeta rarely shows feedback. I just want Zeta to put more effort into VU

I've had a constant headache for 10 months every second of the day, work isn't exactly something I enjoy, and the only reason i played this game was to give me something to do when I'm stuck at home and too ill.

Uhm.... you might wanna go see a doctor...

Hard part of making code available to people is the possibility of it leaking to mroe people which it always done then next thing ya know you got people warping across the map in one turn and spitting out 1k nazghouls per turn etc. Might not be the exact scenario but you see where I am going. Happens to any game where players are allowed a bit too much freedom with code etc.

the big question here if for Zeta, does he work on this as a full time endeavor or is this a hobby. If it is a hobby then toss back some of the things peeps want. If it is full time then theres thousands of things that can be done to ensure your game taking off faster and you getting paid better. Regardless of what peeps think or want that hard fact is there are no test servers so anything he implements is trial and error. Maybe make a lower sever into your trials and implement all kinds of whacky shiz there, you will see soon enough what does and doesn't work.

The game is drawing new players and alot of them come from word of mouth advertising just like with any non mainstream product...So if you folks want more peeps start playing more browser games and tell peeps about this one. I learned about Astro Empires from a coworker and then while playing it I met Roxbury and Binh who then told me about this game, I then recruited my wife and my best friend and his wife etc.

Want to make some phat cash charge people for multiple account use... Sure it puts a bit more power into one persons hands but hey thats what Kd's are for. Nothing wrong with it expect maybe on the lower worlds but I seriously doubt it would change the face of the top 3 worlds that much and if anything it would force people to work together better.

Another thing, I ended up trying out several games just from seeing banner adds on WoW, Astro Empires etc. If you want the pop to grow you need to compete with what seems to be a fast growing industry and that my friends is the #1 killer of small games...better competition.

kk done my *beep*s lol...gnight

Sure, I could spend more time working on the game, but it's not like adding boats would make 10,000 people immediately start playing the game.
I have a day time job as a programmer and when I come  home from work, sitting down in front of the computer and continue coding is not the first thing that comes up in my mind, I rather try to stay away from the computer.

I do spend a lot of time working on the game though, but you do not see every thing that I do.

VU Admin Report 12/2/2008 8:46:07 PM

Sure, I could spend more time working on the game, but it's not like adding boats would make 10,000 people immediately start playing the game. I have a day time job as a programmer and when I come  home from work, sitting down in front of the computer and continue coding is not the first thing that comes up in my mind, I rather try to stay away from the computer. I do spend a lot of time working on the game though, but you do not see every thing that I do.

Holy cr@p! Zeta revealed something about his life! I guess I need to reveal something too...

My name is Septim...and I'm a sp@maholic!

    I'm just deleting everything I was going to say here and backing up architect^

  btw I know some programmers. though I'm sure you wouldn't want to release your code :(

I agree with Arch, if there is anything that can be done to progress the game further, then I will try and do so. I'm a student so I have lots of free time on my hands when I don't have to work or study, there is alot that the players of VU could do to help VU.

You've told me alot of your personal life zeta and I know how stressful a busy life can be. Which is why I ask, can you allow someone to buy into VU? Doesn't have to be a majority shareholder, just a partner or minor shareholder.

I can code something.

I came... I saw... I flamed the pants off of some 'new-players'

You are some of the 'new players' ...

GIVE US RP POINTS

samulis dat aint even funny...you rly think that wud solve a 10 month headache (-_-) ? Yes that is the cause for SOME NORMAL headaches, but this aint normal, an this was cus a PE accident.

it isnt brain damage, its post-traumatic injury or sumtin like dat, but yeah i had brain scans to make sure i was alrite.

I just had another great idea. I have been stabbed in the back hundreds of times by making a NAP or MAP with other kingdoms so one thing I would add to the game would be so kingdom leaders can make a peace treaty so any kingdom with a NAP or MAP cant attack that kingdom. This would be good to have. Also there would be a 24 hour notice before a war can happen after deleating an peace treaty. So do you guys like this idea. This would be a very complicated thing to add, but it would be worth it.

mcloutier87@yahoo.com

I really don't think Zeta is willing to give up part of his game, hell, I'd be pretty angry if he did. But I would 100% be willing to invest into VU, maybe not so close to Christmas, but certainly sometime soon. This game has great potential, and any one would be lucky to be a part of it.

  maybe he could find someone that was good enough at coding and set up some way where he would be able to trust him (zeta having to confirm any improvements).
     Honestly the programming for games like Vu isn't rocket science, I know a few people that work on harder stuff every day (for a living).

Well The main reason why I would want to buy it would be so I ould earn money and not work for free. The things that I would add to the game would bring in donations like crazy. This im 100% sure on because Iv played many games and talk with a lot of people all around the wold, both young and old. Everyone wants differant things and there are some ways that can please very few and others that will please most everyone. Im certain that everything I would add would bring imn a profit but not so sure you all will like them..

mcloutier87@yahoo.com

The yahoo is my sig.its always on there.

And im not trying to make money but the more members the more updates and the more space the game needs. So Ill need to update the server. And I already own 2 games, and I make money on them.

mcloutier87@yahoo.com

       zeta doesn't need to sell it, he needs a crash course in managing a successful game (this is really not meant to be offensive, but some there are some really basic things he could do that would bring in hundreds of new players)     and someone to help him out with code.
    I think it's pretty clear that Vu could go a long way, it's pretty addicting, especially for those that like strategy games, and the computer requirements are pretty basic.

One suggestion I have is put in an introduce-yourself  forum, this is basic for most games, players often get frustrated learning a new game early-on, and the sooner they are acquainted with the community the more likely it is that they will be okay with asking for help, and be active on the forums, and once you have them active on the forums, they're way more likely to stay.
    Here's a quote for you:

 Vogel says an MMOG is foremostly a place for people to gather. “That's what communities are,” he says, adding that they are “a place to vent passionately,” too. People play because they want to be listened to.

What MMOG owners need to learn, in order to maintain control over their marketing, Vogel suggests, is to better manage the relationships they establish with their community, especially the outspoken members. 

  -Rich Vogel, VP of Product Development at Sony Online Entertainment
 Vogel, is most famous for his work with games like Star Wars Galaxies and Ultima Online.

     Once again we know you don't have much time, but if you don't have time to alter the game, at least take the time to bring yourself in more customers.

i think rather than geting a vu player to do it (which rly isnt clever...) admin should get one of his work-colleagues to help, or somebody like that who he can trust, and lives in the same general area so they can meet an talk bout their ideas etc. I'm sure he'd be able to find at least one work colleague willing to help for mayb..I dunno, 10% of what the game brings in? It'd be worth it in the long run.

Anyone whos played this game for a while knows that the admin spends 5 mins at the end of each era, changing the features that take the least amount of effort to do. Talk to the forum mods and they say zeta doesnt give two *beep*s about the player base.

Im saying that by just putting some effort into the game, it can be 10x better, and 10x people can find it and play it. Which would be a good thing.

If you want google tricks to get more hits to the page, to try and fool yourself that hits equals players equals a good game.. then why not just write "SEX NAKED BLONDE ASS STRATEGY GAME" in the game description. That will give a ton of google hits, I promise.

*Clicks the link and returns to VU*
ffs, dammit.