I dont know about any of you but i heard when dogs get stoned they either die... or are stoned for the rest of their natural life...

Anyway last night i made sum space cakes with around £45 worth inside left them on the side to cool whilst we dropped off my sister... got home and my dog had climbed the table and eaten the lot!!!!

and all the rumours are wrong.. nothing happened at all ecxept he was sick about 4 hours later....

bloody dog!

When my dog ate half a joint, he just laid on the couch and made funny noises for about 4-5 hrs, and was fine after that.

Must be a trip for a dog to get high, lol.

i know someone who did a shotgun to a dog using marijuana.  the dog acted funny. the poor dog walks along the walls. 

Ahhh yea, because smoking pot is so evil.

You mean this?
(Edited by Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado 8/28/2006 12:43:24 AM)

45 English pounds is around $70

Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado 8/28/2006 12:07:54 AM

They only die if they Eat lots of Marijuana.It's the same with people.

Try reading my first post.... My dog "ATE" a quart and a ten in space cakes...

So your wrong they dont die...

It is, euuhm, then I must have mised something big the last months..

nevermind what I said beore Edgardo, perhaps it's a good deal anyway:P

Mr. Huo Yuanjia 8/28/2006 1:00:39 AM

Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado 8/28/2006 12:07:54 AM They only die if they Eat lots of Marijuana.It's the same with people.   Try reading my first post.... My dog "ATE" a quart and a ten in space cakes... So your wrong they dont die...

 You get it expenceve were you live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I can get a Quart like for $25  or just grow it for free.Sometime freeload off my friends.But I haven't gotten high in like for a year.

For the uninformed, and uneducated.

http://www.dope-seeds.com/untoldstory/hemp_6.htm

(Edited by Mr. Larry Flynt 8/28/2006 1:01:57 PM)

Druggies are crackheads, and heroin addicts. They are scum to let a chemical overrun there life, and commit crimes to support their habit. That I agree with, but when people who have no clue as to what there arguing when it comes to pot.

I work in the medical field, so I have some experience in the field.

Its narrow minded people who take what there told as gold and dont do proper research for themselves to arrive at there own opinion that are the dredges of socity.

If you dont call the link I posted proper research then you need to first understand what research is. Go learn for yourself, if not for the sake of arguement, but just so your properly informed before you attack something you know nothing about.

Hmmm, let's see.  British Medical Association versus a self-confessed dope smokers personal web-site.

You are so correct Larry, I am really ignorant about research.  So you work in the medical field do you?  What as?  Brain surgeon?  Hospital Porter?  Psychiatric Nurse? Something else?

And what am I?  How can you possibly make the assessment that I am attacking something I know nothing about?  You really do like to fly off the handle don't you?

Nice to see you use the classic druggie apologist tactic though:  see if you can get us arguing about whether alcohol is better or worse than (so-called) recreational drugs.  A bit like asking us to compare apples and oranges really.

Simple fact:  both do harm, both can (in controlled circumstances) do some good - if you had bothered your arrse to read the link I gave you perhaps you would have noted the BMA advocating medicinal use of cannabis notwithstanding their very real concern about the long-term detrimental effects of regular use for non-medicinal purposes.  See countless recent PROPER pieces of research for more details.

Hint: try google for reclassification of cannabis and see what's happened to UK druggies since...

I'll get in with someone that smoked a joint.

You BMA site, is less accurate then the so called personal dope smokers site.

All you site did was say the exact same things we already know. The site I posted goes much deeper into it. Get past the first link I posted and read the rest of the site. Read the economic benifits it poses, saves resources (natural and man made).

All the fear of pot is based on lies and myths. People like you cant bring themselves to face the facts, you would rather just call us druggies and make fun of us.

Yes I work in the medical field. I am a Bio-Medical enginner. This druggie, designs, sets up, and maintains the labs that provide the drugs that save your life,  make your peepee hard, preserve the foods you eat and a whole list of any other things.

Like you said before you dont do any research for yourself, just rely on whatever crap your goverment puts up for you to believe, and you take that as gold.

So keep on being a good tool of socity, and dont think for yourself. Besides your so dam good at it.

It may be a classic argument, but its one that cant be beat.

Highwayman, I agree that neither would be the best choice, but if you had to choose 1, who would you choose?

I do not condone the use of pot, but the effects of its use is insiginificant compared to alcohol abuse.  You could smoke 10 pounds of pot and all it would do is give you a headache, sore throat, munchies, and a deep sleep, but drink 24 beers, and a 60 ouncer of Vodka, and you'll be in the hospital...or in a casket.

Im actually surprised to see your view on this Krum. I remember you being against drugs.

lol, why is that?

Are you so weak you get impaired off a single can of beer?

Duchess Bonnie Davina 8/28/2006 5:28:18 PM

I knew a guy who could chuck a case of coors down and still have being able to walk a straight line. One night, he had just one beer, took his baby for a drive to relax him, he survived.

Sorry, left off something.  He survived, the baby did not.  He lost everything for one can of beer and taking a little drive.........

Sir Efrandor 8/28/2006 5:44:50 PM

"A single can of beer will not impair your driving ablity" It doesn't have to do with weak or strong, have a friend that is like 150 centimeters, rather slim and weak, he can drink, drink drink and drink, and hardly never get's drunk, I'm almost 2 metres and I can drink a beer(3.5%) and feel it, some people can take more some people can't, I'm not sad tough, I'm poor so it get's cheap for me.. Drink one beer here in Sweden and drive and you will get a bill, and probably loose you're license, why, because one beer can affect you.

*Applauds

My dad was a law enforcement officer, and the stories he would tell of people drinking, no matter how little, is enought to make me never do that. 

Hahaha, OMG the dramedy behind your story arien is well beyond belief.

Larry, I don't think you realize the tolerance of alcohol in some people. My ex gf could get thrashed on 1 beer....yeah she was a cheap date. Then again I have a friend who can drink 12 strong beers without so much as a burp.

Everyone is different, thats why we have the 0 tolerance laws.

I understand tolerance, but 1 beer isnt going to get someone so out of whack that they cant drive 15-20 mins after.

Now slamming a beer and getting into the car is a bit different, as that will casue you some issues (depending on tolerance).

Here we have a legal limit, so you can drive and be pulled over, and let go with 1 beer. Once again tolerance plays a part.

Besides I live in america, we have weak ass beer here anyway. Kinda like comparing apples to oranges(to quote highway).

"(Efrandor: "I'm almost 2 metres and I can drink a beer(3.5%) and feel it,")

Huh is the percent in your countries beer so low? Here in belgium it's like 5.4% alcohol for a normal beer... How can you get drunk of that percent? (I'm not laughing with you or anything.. Just curious)"

I'm 18, so I'm not allowed to buy stronger drinks, don't know about the laws in other contries, are you not 20 here you can't by liquour and beer.

3.5% is the strongest you can buy, it's called peoples-beer to translate it right away:P

But we do have beer with 18% (At least that is the strongest I have seen..)

Well, like I said higher up in the thread, I get easily drunk, a 6-pack of those beers and I'm feeling just fine;)

Should Cannabis Be Legalised for Medicinal Purposes In The United Kingdom?

Ganja, marijuana, weed, puff, smoke, pot, herb, dope, resin, grass, there are hundreds of names to describe it. These are the many words used in reference to Cannabis

Cannabis is the most commonly used illegal drug in the UK with an estimate of around 1 million current users and 10 million people thought to have tried the drug in some time in there life. Nearly half of all 16-29 year olds have tried cannabis some time in their life, and a further half of them have used it within the last year. So with such a high number of users in this country, I ask my self, why has it become so popular?

The Effects of Cannabis

 The desired effects experienced by users are talkativeness, cheerfulness, relaxation and greater appreciation of sound and colour. Cannabis users often describe the experience of smoking cannabis as initially relaxing and mellow, creating a feeling of haziness and light-headedness. This is known as being 'high' or 'stoned'.

Physical Effects of Cannabis

When smoked, cannabis is inhaled into the lungs, where the Alveoli filter gasses from the smoke, the main being delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol better known as THC. THC is the main psychoactive ingredient. The gasses filter into the blood stream introducing the THC into the body. The following is a list of the main areas of the body affected by cannabis and what causes it.

The Skin:- Even though cannabis isnt an aphrodisiac, many users claim a heightened sensitivity and increased sex drive.

The Stomach:- Users feel an increase in appetite. This is referred to as the Munchies in common slang. Molecules called endocannabinoids bind onto certain receptors in the brain, making the user fell hungry.

The Heart:- Cannabis causes an increase in the cardiovascular action of the heart. Blood pressure is altered and the pulse rate quickens.

The Mouth:-  The air passage leading to the lungs expands and the mouth stops secreting saliva, leaving a dry mouth. This is commonly known as Dry mouth

The Ears:- Sounds often become distorted or hearing heightened.

The Eyes:- Pressure inside the eye decreases, causing the eyes to redden, and eyelids to become puffy. This is commonly known as Red Eye

The Brain:- Chemicals called cannabinoids block certain electrical signals inside the brain, interfering with short-term memory and co-ordination. Often upsetting memory and Balance.

The Effects of cannabis generally lasts up to 4 hours depending on the amount used, then the body returns to normal afterwards. There is no other side affects afterwards unless the user takes it to an excess on a regular basis.

Legislative Status of Cannabis

            Cannabis was first made illegal in 1928, after it was linked to 'harder' drugs like heroin and opium. Up until the declassification in 2004 cannabis was classed as a class B drug, but this was changed to a class C when the law was relaxed a bit. But even though it is only a class C drug, it is still illegal. But if you are found in possession of cannabis, the majority of the time it is just confiscated and let off with a caution. You could be imprisoned for 2 years for possession of cannabis, but most of the time you would only be arrested if you were thought to have intent to supply the drug, in this case you can get a maximum of 15 years imprisonment.

I will now discuss the pros and the cons of cannabis, linking them to why cannabis should or shouldnt be legalised in the UK.

Supporting Cannabis to be legalised

• Cannabis is less addictive than amphetamines, tobacco or alcohol, and does less harm to the body.
• A government report found that high use of cannabis isn't associated with major health or sociological problems, unlike other harder drugs.
• Cannabis has an effect on the heart, similar to the effects of exercise. It may be just as good for the heart as going to the gym.
• Its effects are beneficial to sufferers of various medical conditions, including cancer, HIV, multiple sclerosis, and glaucoma and Arthritis.

Against the legalisation of Cannabis

• It may be psychologically addictive. Heavy users can display aggressive impulses if their supply suddenly stops, a side effect similar to that of anabolic steroids.
• Cannabis may be a 'gateway' drug to more harmful substances like heroin and cocaine.
• It can disrupt the control of blood pressure increasing the risk of fainting. Even occasional use is bad for people with heart and circulation disorders, and for those predisposed to schizophrenia.
• It has a higher tar content than tobacco, so smoking cannabis presents the same health problems: bronchitis, emphysema and lung cancer.

The main argument for the legalisation of Cannabis has to be its effectiveness when used for medicinal purposes. Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes for thousands of years, it dates back as far as 2800 BC in Chinese cultures, but is believed to be used even further back than that.

The following is a table showing the kind of illnesses where people often use cannabis to help their symptoms.

This table shows a number of random people who smoke cannabis for medicinal purposes and the illness that it is helping. This survey was carried out in California where cannabis has been made legal for medicinal purposes only. Only through a physician can cannabis be given prescribed legally.

The main debate though on legalising cannabis for medicinal purposes is over the value of its medicinal properties relative to the risk posed by its use. The standards our healthcare lives up to in todays generation is very high, people expect all forms of healthcare from prescribed medicines to over the counter medicines to be 100% safe, reliable and at a proven efficiency. For this reason, it is being debated a great deal whether or not cannabis should be legalised for medicinal purposes because of some of its negative properties mentioned before.

            But in my opinion I think that the Pros out weight the cons of using cannabis for medicinal purposes. There is no risk of Overdosing on Cannabis and smoking it doesnt cause any real physical or psychological dependence on the drug. There is a slight possibility of minor withdrawal symptoms if it is smoked to excess on a regular basis, but they are very minor, nothing to serious to cause any serious harm. With all that in consideration, cannabis is a very effective method of relieving symptoms to a patient suffering long-term illnesses.

References

http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/marimed/index.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopics/cannabis/index.shtml#keypoints

http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/marimed/ch1_t3.html