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I've played quite a few eras on fant and mant. I took a little break from v-u and when I came back I found that things had changed. Now the difference between fant and mant isn't quite as extreme. Who thinks that kd scores on mant are not even comparable to fant ones, and who thinks they are quite comparable?

This era I fought using major fractions of my income oop. I think that any kd who fights hard straight oop and never stops is comparable to any fant kd. Also, often times on either world there is no fighting at all oop, what with naps. How is it then that the scores are not comparable?

note: that a few eras ago I would agree that fant was a whole other ballgame for scores. note also that I still think it is in terms of individual skill levels, which is not what scores reflect, so ya.

I find in general that both worlds kingdoms boast simular amounts of power, (except for a few exceptional people.) but the fighting style is hugely different between the worlds. Man tends to find individually and blockers are easly past with the right amount of mu's. On Fant there are huge merge wars where kingdoms would wage war upon a blocker for weeks, then its all over for the defending side if their blocker's captured.

Fant still maintains their superiority, but if Man can manage to coordinate their efforts more they wouldn't be so far behind, and after a few eras experience maybe could equal a lesser Fant player.

But as it stands if a Man kingdom went against a Fant, the Fant kingdom would own.

Vengence, your a newb just like me, its not really someone like you could really give this a fair point, in fact I'd imagine a few people would laugh at you for your last post
I on the other hand would stay out of this sort of topic, I have no idea what im talking about basically

you can see the difference by the fact that most kds that win mantrax come to fant and last less then a week

Mr. Kassius The Kookie Bandit Report 1/9/2008 12:13:20 PM

I think that any kd who fights hard straight oop and never stops is comparable to any fant kd. Also, often times on either world there is no fighting at all oop, what with naps. How is it then that the scores are not comparable? this doesnt mean anything, yeh its great to see kds fighting oop and showing spirit but that doesnt necissarily mean anything else.

I'm suggesting that it means many mant kd's undergo the same strain on income and development that many fant kd's do. If that is true, then kd power (and power alone) are comparable. So, if a guy on one server goes oop with 70% income into army and so does a guy on another server, and in the end both have the same power level, what difference does the server make? Their achievement is similar.

Sir Revenge Report 1/9/2008 5:21:47 PM

Vengence, your a newb just like me, its not really someone like you could really give this a fair point, in fact I'd imagine a few people would laugh at you for your last post I on the other hand would stay out of this sort of topic, I have no idea what im talking about basically

Acually i agree with him, after being a vice in Pred in fant for 5 eras i decided to join aby and what Vengance said was basically true..

Fant players are better, full stop.

Not to say stronger or smarter but a lot more active, and each member of the kd works for a common goal, even though the fighing in fant is slower (Your lucky if you kill one kd of equal strenght in one era.), you get a better sense of teamwork and that for me is what this game is about. :)

ya preds is a good example pwned in mant but when they came to fant they kept losing sometimes lasting a bit or they might have aslted but were not very good holding onto some citys to stay in fant with a bit of a score etc

fant is way more active id say than mant and more orginized and such wich makes fant KDs better than mant overall

Well I'm glad to see that talking without knowing is still strong on this forum. Mantrax kingdoms just don't have what it takes for the most part, the best current example is Preds, they pwned Mantrax big time and every time they got on Fantasia they got smashed and no, I don't really care who they warred and how outnumbered they are.

If people on Mantrax feel they are good enough, do please come to Fantasia and we'll find out.

There are crappy kingdoms that survive on Fantasia. The difference between a crappy Fantasia kingdom that survives, and an ambitious Mantrax kingdom that gets smashed, has everything to do with diplomacy and not gameplay.

I completely agree with Sloth. But I understand Nimic's point as well. Just know, Nimic, that although a fant guy can do more with less troops, that the same troops on mant will result in a similar response (eg, oh crap, 1500 men coming at me oop... better have 20k ready for him, etc). Based on that, if the guy under attack goes on to score high, he still pulled it off against an equal drain on his machine if you get what I mean. The fant guy will always beat the mant guy, but their scores are similar achievements. Also:

they pwned Mantrax big time and every time they got on Fantasia they got smashed and no, I don't really care who they warred and how outnumbered they are.

Then why post in this thread, because you are by your own admission not looking at all the factors involved, and we're trying to get like a real fair comparison. This is by some accounts the premier most important factor in survival in this game. Name any kd, send the rest of the server after them, and you get a bloodbath.

hmm it has everything to do with luck

"You give no reasons. Does this mean that if all kds gang up on yours that your kd are a bunch of *beep*s for losing? If you say so....I say again, any fant kd would be on the fast track to mant if everyone hit them at once."

Are you retarded or dyslexic?

"bull*beep*"

Ok, that pretty much clears up the confusing from the about, you're just retarded. Thanks for joining the wonderful and select group of clueless mediocre mantrax players that wouldn't know fact from fiction if it slapped you in the face.

"Score means nothing for farmers, but it means tons for someone who everyone saw fighting hard all era"

Wow, you mean to tell me that all these eras I thought all the whores that whored for score and to have their name up on the Hoh page didn't care about score? Are you just *beep*ing kidding me?

Out of the last 10 eras that I just looked up only in 1 of it did a guy that actually attacked and warred for his position win. If you think that by warring you'll get your name up there you're delusional.

Yeah orc's dilema etc. Also cavers are stupidly overrepresented in score, and possibly even advents really. The thing is we're all aware of those things and can take them into consideration. It is a really good point though.