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I just updated it, if anyone else wants to feel free :D Just another way to get it out there ya know? In turn I got to put IE up there :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Utopia

Ya I think PKS was around when I started so I added em in :D

I know Yum isn't old but they are HoH#2 so :P

If you don't like it then please change it. I was just trying to be helpful, and I didn't say they were all old, I said or well known.

lol someone erased IE from the list XP

Well known? For what?

If you want to list KDs, they should have a reason for being notable, otherwise we'll simply list every kd in VU existence for being known.

Erunion/Arzun, if you wan't to get into a debate of linguistics, then by  all means I'm game. Arzun stated:

Players have become a key part of the game and some have even played for many years. Some of the oldest and/or well known Kingdoms are Legacy, Abydos, Peacekeeper, Rumour/NARRSE, Kingdom of Heaven Mad Against Drugs, The Brotherhood of the Worlf, Spagheti,and Phi. Each one of them well known throughout the Visual Utopia Community and each one of them have diffrent traits and tacticts.

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Thus, the kingdoms that followed were to be notable for having played many years, or being old/well known. As far as I'm concerned, most of them wouldn't classifiy.

And the kingdoms I listed, are notable, and didn't "fail or falter", or have "gone". Many of them were the "LGC" of their times, and many of them still have an ingame presence. For instance, the X/HaP/Z/OWN contigent were the forerunners of the modern LGC. The basis of LGC, and many of the members came from those kds. During their individual times (which spanned a number of years), X/HaP/Z/OWN were the top dogs, and deserve much more of a mention than the ones that Arzun listed. The same goes with Heaven, and Serenity, and a lot of the other older, more notable kingdoms.

Just because they're on the hoh now does not mean they are a good kd, in comparison to those before. Hence why I don't think somebody relatively new should be subjecting a encyclopedia to his rather limited opinion.




(Edited by Mr. Archibald Trotter 1/26/2007 8:54:24 PM)

Just list current kingdoms, maybe by saying "Such and such which used to be the famous So and so...."

I'm saying the current notables.... But if you want to add all those others, that's fine. I was just suggesting an easier and more understandable way.

Ok there, erased. I'm sorry.

Agree with Archi. The entry should describe the game, not those that play it. Frankly anyone interested in knowing a little about VU could care less what the names of dominant KDs are/were.

Add SaC to that mister!!

ya know archibald. you need to relax. at least someone did something. your just mad cuz you didnt do it yourself.

Auspex, it is true some dont care about top KD's. but on the other hand. SOME do care. i for an example  like to learn about the older KD's.  they must of been good for everyone to remember them. you see so many smaller KD's do you remember any  of their names.? try to list them all. i dont think you could do it. one of your excuses would be that you dont care im sure.

Ben was king, I just brought it up because I found it on a screen XD.

hey what about oh this small kingdom called MAFIA.?

OMGZORWFTROFLMAO!!!

Isnt this forums not enough for you geniuses.  get away from wikipedia.  Don't ruin that nice website. you cant edit something just to put your kd name in it. 
"Mommy, mommy, look at wikipedia, i belong to that kd,"
*Mommy faints*

*goes on wiki looking to delete Osiris from the sexiest player in vu*

and about that list of old KD's :p must say i agree with Sezy it aint complete without SaC, =)

Wow VU sure has its history.  I wish I'd started 2 years back :)

I'd love to see what some of the old maps looked like...