I think it used to be 74%, not sure now...

As well as not casting from a city with MTs..

i failed StG 8 times yesterday. I almost cried. worst session of my life.

hmmm

Come to think about it Kev, how i got that 6K Catapult army early last era was doing that with StG.

I had tons of MUs on a warhouse city that was about 1 1/2 ticks away from the Siegharts mage city.

But that army didnt last long.

I bet its because it was nowhere close to as BA as the exagerated version of it.

That army topped at 6K Cats before i had to move it to defend

so a 90k magic city. 4 ticks away. 15k homes housing 375k MUs and 75k magic towers increasing power. would that do it?

Amount of warehouses..

Mr Justin wrote: "so a 90k magic city. 4 ticks away. 15k homes housing 375k MUs and 75k magic towers increasing power. would that do it?"

Eh? We're talking StG here, not offensive magic. So I don't know what you're saying.

ok sweet. I thought it would have been the case.

Mr. Gothrim Report 7/27/2008 4:45:57 AM

Mr Justin wrote: "so a 90k magic city. 4 ticks away. 15k homes housing 375k MUs and 75k magic towers increasing power. would that do it?" Eh? We're talking StG here, not offensive magic. So I don't know what you're saying.

I was talking about StG to. Wouldnt that give you over the % you need?

ok good cuz i have 10k of the 15k homes built that i need and then im moving onto magic towers.

im going to have 1 million income soon and ill have an armory one tic away transfering Mus every time i cast. I have everything thought out

FCUKER RANDOM!!! 106M!!! T_T

I wanna kill YOU!! :D

I'm dwarf, so does that limit my StG abilities?

I've just started to use magic science with dwarves after getting killed by a mage last era.

Justin...... you sure it was 14 eras exp you've got? I'm relatively new but found that;

1. MTs are a waste, especially when it costs 1k, or even 500, a building.
2. More mus are also a waste, due to inflated troop costs and more losses (so more mus that need to be replaced).
3. Having alot higher than ~65% is a waste. Not worth the mus.
4. Generally, 4k warehouses is the most worthwhile amount. I tested out and having 5k warehouses and the EXACT same magic power  raised my % of stone converted by literaly a miniscule amount. Haven't tested it out with much higher warehouses but thats what I reckon.

And I reached the 300 million last era. Strange how it was an EXACT 300 million. However I heard someone say they reached 400 mill so I doubt its a cap...

well, if you cast it on a mine, you will get the stone from the mine.

AGAIN JUSTIN FAILS

can somebody help me on this?

i cast stg using 6k MU on a 13k WH city. the base stone used was 130K but i was only able to convert 90K of stone to gold.

i'm just thinking, is it possible to convert all of my stones to gold? if yes, what will i increase, MU or WH?

13k warehouses is overkill for 130k stone, and yeah increase your stone base by ALOT.
Minimum stone base depends on the StGer.
And don't use mts -.-" the best way to do it is to camp a few k mages on a warehouse city well out the way. Then add mus when yours die, try and keep the number constant, and maybe tweak with it.

Putting a warehouse city to close to a magic city can have disaterous concequences, likewise having it the the middle of a war ground.
You wont get 100% conversion rate, but yes more magic power means more conversion, this however does not mean more magic power means more money.

ok well this is the StG part of a guide i wrote for dwarfs.... its pretty similar for all races.... but

Stone to Gold:

As a dwarf you will be disadvantaged in this area to your human opponents where you do not have the 0-10% market discount, and they do. This means they will profit more from and StG than you.
Stone to Gold is a level4 spell; thus you will not be doing this until later in the era as a dwarf because you will want to have a high mining level before getting magic science.
This also means less profit; as the stone market will have stabilized by the time you get to it at .9 gold/stone or higher.

To StG, you will want to set up a warehouse city. this city will be near your armoury; but not too near as you could mistakenly cast from the armoury with your MU's being produced, which would cost alot.

I set up this city with 3-4k warehouses and 1k homes initially. (The homes are purely to feed my armoury)

Set an army or MU's on top of the city and cast from there; you don't want a too higher percentage on the cast, as the losses from the casting are too heavy as you go on.

So experiment with the amount of MU's used.

I find that around 66-67% yields good results for me.

Another this with StG; the amount of stone converted is dependent on a number of things; the Magic power you have. E.g. the amount of MU's you are willing to use in the process, the amount of stone possessed and the amount of warehouses in your city.

-The amount of stone possessed is where the figures come from.
-The magic power controls the percentage converted.
-The Amount of warehouses controls the maximum stone able to be converted.

From memory 1 warehouse can accommodate for 30k stone per cast.
This meaning the start cast for your StG will be no higher than 120-180M gold with 4-5k warehouses....

I begin my StG with however much stone I have accumulated over the era; along with as much as i can afford to buy off the market at the time. usually ends up being around 100M first cast.

After a while you'll reach the 'cap' for the amount of warehouses you have and at this point you'll want to either expand your warehouse city, of play around with MU's until you have the perfect power to stone ratio (you can figure that out by yourselves)

does it work if your in a kd and one of the mages knows what city of your to cast stg on... can they cast it on you city and you get the gold..???

"does it work if your in a kd and one of the mages knows what city of your to cast stg on... can they cast it on you city and you get the gold..???"

yes

"if you have 2 armies.. an allied army of 100k mages and a orc army with lik50k nazguls... if they merge are the nazzies covered by the magic protection of the mages.."

yes move very slowly though.

Lord Anarkist The Wraith

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7/30/2008 5:20:10 PM

Justin...... you sure it was 14 eras exp you've got? I'm relatively new but found that;

1. MTs are a waste, especially when it costs 1k, or even 500, a building.
2. More mus are also a waste, due to inflated troop costs and more losses (so more mus that need to be replaced).
3. Having alot higher than ~65% is a waste. Not worth the mus.
4. Generally, 4k warehouses is the most worthwhile amount. I tested out and having 5k warehouses and the EXACT same magic power  raised my % of stone converted by literaly a miniscule amount. Haven't tested it out with much higher warehouses but thats what I reckon.

And I reached the 300 million last era. Strange how it was an EXACT 300 million. However I heard someone say they reached 400 mill so I doubt its a cap...

What The Heck??? You clearly dont understand how StG works.....

Sir Mad Mage Pesterd

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10/24/2008 6:22:54 PM Lord Anarkist The Wraith

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7/30/2008 5:20:10 PM
Justin...... you sure it was 14 eras exp you've got? I'm relatively new but found that;

MTs are a waste, especially when it costs 1k, or even 500, a building.
More mus are also a waste, due to inflated troop costs and more losses (so more mus that need to be replaced).
Having alot higher than ~65% is a waste. Not worth the mus.
Generally, 4k warehouses is the most worthwhile amount. I tested out and having 5k warehouses and the EXACT same magic power raised my % of stone converted by literaly a miniscule amount. Haven't tested it out with much higher warehouses but thats what I reckon.
And I reached the 300 million last era. Strange how it was an EXACT 300 million. However I heard someone say they reached 400 mill so I doubt its a cap...




What The Heck??? You clearly dont understand how StG works.....





You might want to explain for everyone else then whats wrong with this guy's statement? :)

what.. are .... you .... talking about... (pestert)!!!

Warehouse doesn't equal 30k of resources... It holds a hundred times more than your other buildings, all of which hold infinite amount. So, they're divided in a proportion.