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lol. you have no idea what you talking about.

1. im not saying 1 adv can kill 1 nazgul. im saying with the gold it costs to make 1 nazgul you can make enough advs to rival it, and if you add in their ability theyre arguably better

2. if you used 3m gaia youd drown in your own upkeep. and backed by 100k nazgul? if you had 100k nazzies why the hell would you be using gaia?

3. and orc mus arent cheap, thats trolls

yeah the reason to use gaia is they are cheap and don't require population or homes plus they are good scouts and suiciders.

the mus are cheap as when you can get a naz for 3000 gold per naz the mus are free


and the upkeep is not bad when most are in your cities as you only have to pay up keep of those in the armys

nazzies for the army and gaias for the home front shamens in both and split your troops in three ways naz and shamens in armys all three for home defense an gaia as scouts

arent nazzies 17k each normally so even at half that would make....

17000/2 = errmm :P (gets calc)... 8500, nowhere near 3000 :P

lol, youve been playing for ten eras and you dont know the max discount armories give? o wow, this is good. i was having a bad day, thanks for cheering me up

nope, hasnt changed at all

dang

oh oh can i make one??

pretty please?

	Military	Magic	Economy
Human	****	***	***
Elf	***	*****	**
Dwarf	****	*	*****
Halfling	*	***	****
Orc	****	***	**
Troll	*****	****	***

you think dwarves suck at magic?

and yet large dwarves are still the best mages in our kd <3

The chart basically says Trolls beat Orc, everytime.  Though the races aren't balanced, given, try to keep a constant number of st*beep*ach race earns in all the catagories together.

Ya know, I have watched this same discussion pop up from time to time ever since I started playing VU. No matter how you look at it, it's a vast combination of factors that determine what race is best. And, mostly it depends on the players style of playing that makes that race work for them. All veteran players know which race works best for them. Thats why we have kingdoms, so players can work together  with the pros & cons of each race. Zeta keeps changing the parameters of the game enough to keep it interesting but the race styles remain the same.

Humans have an overall balance for everything but aren't best at anything.
Elves are great for magic & defense.
Dwarves are the money makers and with enough money you can do anything.
Halflings do good with overall economy and invisible scouts are very useful.
Orc's are hard to beat for military power, just gotta get the economy going.
Troll's are a good balance of military & magic but like Orc you gotta get the economy going,

I think the science costs for individual races are setup pretty good. Much better than distant past era's where one race or another could dominate the map.

Of course this is just my opinion and like that other thing everyone has one.

but you must take into a/c mill sci.

these numbers are nothing new. anyone whose been playing for more than 10 minutes can figure them out

all the units ratio shows is which units are most efficient. if you look at a chart made by someone who knows what theyre doing, itll show a lot more than just the ratios as it takes all the races special abilities and such into account. if you just look at the ratios, dwarves are pathetic and trolls are rigged as hell

for ghosts 100/2= 100?

seems like some flawed maths.....

	Military	Magic	Economy
Human	****	***	***
Elf	***	*****	**
Dwarf	***	**	*****
Halfling	**	***	****
Orc	****	**	**
Troll	*****	***	**

Humans mil is good, ok magic if needed, economy average.

Elf military is weak for attacking, great for defence, magic unbeatable, economy, no gains due to no attacking.

Dwarf mil is ok due to economy, large amounts of troops, magic weak but doable, economy unmatched.

Halfling mil ok, but cannot compete with Orc, troll, or human, magic decent, economy stronger than elves, aided by adventurers.

Orc mil good, nazzie costs keep it lower than troll however, magic is terrible, economy weak due to no free upkeep.

Troll military undoubtedly the best, magic--cheap units, expensive science, you decide, i say weak, economy bad, but the mass number of towns with attacking helps make up for it.

All in all, we all know you have to play dwarf to win ;)

what do you mean orc magic or other science is terrible then troll? troll got the highest cost for science then any other race but you guys only thinks about the cheap mage unit,pfft just when it come to research troll lose ,. and there is nothing about orc that give them a disadvantage in science it the same with halfing and elf(but magic).  and economic is great same as halfing(but food) elf and troll(but tree). Orc is great for major impact at close range since there units produce fast then any other race. But everyone think about the no free upkeep orc are born to attack not to defend dispite of that orc economic are good

lots of dwarves

Don't forget about human science it gives an advantage in many things.

Dwarf military is usually low ranked, with magic also low ranked.  Their economy though is the best of any race, which can allow you to produce more troops faster.  Also, they're best unit (axemen 8/6) can be decreased to 600 ea, and a good dwarf can pump out 2-5k axemen easy a tick.  I've seen dwarf military range from 1-3 stars, probebly because of this fact. 

 In addition, many players play as dwarves (well in Starta they do =/), thus it isn't as strong an opposition, and dwarfs are usually very high ranked in overall scores at the end of an era.  Taken this into account, a dwarf may have low military (some new players may see this and thats the only reason they don't play as dwarves), but at the end their economy usually makes their military stronger.  I've seen a dwarf conquer a troll or a orc many times by sheer numbers alone.  If a dwarf can make 50k troops to a troll or orcs 5-10k (sometimes, factoring Nazguls for orcs, less then that, or even at regular times, alot less then that, I've seen dwarfs pump out 50k axes to a troll/orcs 1 or 2k troops) then the battle should be easily won for the dwarf. (Note: note all the time, variaions in troops or other factors can affect this). 

 I personally have a dwarf army of 35k axemen (not alot, but its sufficent to take over enemy core) and I have captured 3 cities that have added 700k or more to my economy, while a troll or orc (previous owners =D) would have been signifigantly less (I have 5 mining)     

This may be contreversial, but that is my opnion on the subject. 

Regards, Ctopha

	Military	Magic	Economy
Human	****	**	***
Elf	***	*****	**
Dwarf	**	*****	*****
Halfling	***	***	****
Orc	*****	***	**
Troll	****	**	**

Feel free to flame me.

How in the name of God is Human mil the same as Troll ?

	Military	Magic	Economy
Human	****	***	***
Elf	***	*****	**
Dwarf	**	*****	*****
Halfling	***	***	****
Orc	*****	***	**
Troll	****	****	**

Err sorry about the magic thing forgot.

One man dare to speak the truth!

The man speaks the truth again :(

p.s colorful ;p