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Nirvana 33
18:30:49 Feb 17th 15 - Rora (Ms. Crystal Goddess of War):

why would I have a problem with you wanting to exact revenge on one of our enemies? We were losing, I'm not going to have a problem with something like that.

I let you join after you suddenly became reasonable and I think appologized for some of your past actions. No one here is butt hurt I can assure you.

We had no alliance , your KD mate , thinking i was a new player , threatened to kill me if i did not join you. Then you messaged me offering peace. I did not reply. You'll see i said nothing disrespectful in our original messages.
 
Yes, he said he'd have to kill you because that's what I told him. However, you didn't actually reply to him and out of the good of his heart he must've assumed you'd realise we're not your enemy so he went to fight VUE then several days later you started moving armies around, so he started pumping gaia.


18:33:03 Feb 17th 15 - Ms. Seven of Nine:

Both sides showed their side of the argument, now you should agree to disagree and move on. Its always better to let your armies do the talking


18:33:41 Feb 17th 15 - Rora (Ms. Crystal Goddess of War):

I couldn't agree more :)


18:36:26 Feb 17th 15 - Sir Yisrahel Igba of Yesu:

You said that last era and then died while i was still alive. Regardless of how much of a role i played , as i was how many weeks behind you in landing? i was coming OOP when mighty dragon hit me with 60 000 gaia and then you marched a 5 X army across the mountains at me. At the end of the day WE killed you :P I still had all my cities and quite a few of you guys when i died thats all im saying. 



Edit - And when i say 'when i died' i mean when the era ended :) 


19:03:02 Feb 17th 15 - Dark Spawn (Mr. Dominion):

This will be one of those eras when entire map wars since oop and then a farmed up kingdom comes with large armies and kills everyone.


20:06:39 Feb 17th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

MAL seem to be content to just attack one kingdom whos all OOP or rebuilding and my one man kingdom , and still recruit more members to tackle the fearsome southern forces :P 




21:37:49 Feb 17th 15 - Mr. Barny:


04:44:49 Feb 17th 15 - Mr. Kreed The White:

Barny, thats assuming a clear victor emerges. Both sides still have very powerful armies and cities. Unless things have changed, which they may have, I see shots being taken back and forth with little ground being gained.



That will probably be the case, I'm hoping for lots of army slaying and city burning. I have 500k Peasants and an s9 66k that fully blocks and can become a 200k.

I think Halfling day 10 120k Pony Rider attack is really strong (Tested this on Zetamania after talking to Binh about it when I came back to the game, did it round 2 GvE, I hope Random does something like this and attacks The Collective etc) but there's really no way to take a 66k/200k that blocks and has hundreds of thousands of units and the housed Swordsman 3 OP.25-.4~ food a tick upkeep matches up really well vs the 4 DP 3-4 gold a tick upkeep Pony Rider.

I'm surprised more people don't make fully blocking 200ks but city placement is hard I guess.

Also you can just build a future 200k up to 78401 for overmax walls/s9 prep time and full block then drop it back down to 66k for a 200k land-drop.


23:26:52 Feb 17th 15 - Rora (Empress Aurora):

14:06:39 Feb 17th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

MAL seem to be content to just attack one kingdom whos all OOP or rebuilding and my one man kingdom , and still recruit more members to tackle the fearsome southern forces :P

 

Yes we are content attacking anyone and everyone. We're not going to go around a kingdom to get in on some people already warring. We're going to war those around us first. We recruited one player who was also playing solo, what of it?

you complain about the dumbest things. From our perspective, Measuring Stick has been there a while, they have around the same amount of land as I do.


23:54:25 Feb 17th 15 - Mr. Valverde:

Rora, I'm not going to make excuses or complain, but at the same time please dont try to make this sound like an even fight. Your orcs and trolls have about the same land totals as my halfling and your halfling has a good chunk more land than my my halfling. 


Its VU wars happen. Often times they are not balanced. Personally I like the odds against me. Keeps things exciting.


00:50:14 Feb 18th 15 - Rora (Ms. Crystal Goddess of War):

Sorry, I know its not even. We do have more land and we do have more numbers, I also know for a fact you personally have been fighting already. We're only warring you because you're right there. It wouldn't make much sense for us to go start another war when we'll have one with you later.

The point is we're not just attacking oop players and those that are rebuilding. We're going to try and get rid of that  future threat before we go starting other wars.

 


01:05:58 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

Lets not beat around the bush. So far in your glorious prime , ten days or so into the era and you have attacked a one man KD and a KD rebuilding after losing an OOP war. 


Not everyone is a future threat. You could go war the people actually the same strength as you and NAP / simply CF those around you who pose no threat to you. But then again , you guys aren't too good at the game so i guess us little guys are threats to you. Judging by the weak stuff im seeing so far i can see why you picked us as your targets :P 

First time i've seen a 6/7 man kingdom sneak attack a one man kingdom. Things was that bad you needed the element of suprise too?


01:08:03 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

you complain about the dumbest things. From our perspective, Measuring Stick has been there a while, they have around the same amount of land as I do.


23:50:14 Feb 17th 15 - Rora (Ms. Crystal Goddess of War):

Sorry, I know its not even. We do have more land and we do have more numbers, I also know for a fact you personally have been fighting already


U turn that fast in a car your liable to have the police chasing you. 


01:08:33 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Valverde:

You guys are not doing anything wrong by no means. If I was in your position, I would do the same. 


01:11:35 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

The problem i have with it is they are doing EXACTLY what i did last era. But when i did it they said it was 'traitorous vile acts' but here they are doing the same.


I attacked the ONLY kingdom within a days march for mounted troops who i had NO relations with who had previously threatened to kill me and im a traitor. Attack a kingdom 10 times my size that day 30 or so into the era when im just OOP and im a coward.

But attack a cluster of small kingdoms after sneak attacking a one man kingdom and you are a fearsome warrior. its the double standards that are annoying. Don't complain about someone doing something if you are going to do the same , even worse , the next era. You just end up looking stupid.


01:15:04 Feb 18th 15 - Rora (Empress Aurora):

I'm not going to fuel your newest member with a reply. We all know what has happened in this area of the map.

Except for the last part, my attitude towards Sesugh and Valverde is completely different. I don't hate Valverde and I will respect him. As I will give you Sesugh, the respect I feel you deserve (which is none based on every encounter).


01:19:47 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

PR girl Rora :P 


In all fairness i have no real opinion of you. Your decent at the game , you just don't seem to be able to see that you are effectively doing the same thing i did to you. And when someone hits you with a suprise attack it sucks , and if you think im arrogant thats fine. 

But neither of these things means i betrayed you. When MAL can just accept no one betrayed them , they did not see an attack coming from me because of how small i was and got suprised. Its not even like i won the suprise attack on you so I don't see why your so adamant with your story of being betrayed.

Someone with NO relations with you attacked you...No one betrayed you. Infact when it first happened you guys didn't even say i betrayed you.

You (1/3/2015 10:18:47 PM)
:P good move with the teleport
Lord Mighty Dragon (1/3/2015 11:39:41 PM)GOODBAD
I thought so

buys me time to train naz again...lol

these were waisteful spells.. they cost you more than they cost me.

16:14:36 - The progress of Traitor has been hindered by magic!

16:14:17 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Balanced attempted to cast a spell upon us.

16:14:15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Balanced attempted to cast a spell upon us.

16:14:13 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Balanced attempted to cast a spell upon us.

16:14:09 - Fire rains from the sky on our Traitor army! 8 troops burned to death.

16:14:07 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Balanced attempted to cast a spell upon us.

16:13:44 - Fire rains from the sky on our Traitor army! 11 troops burned to death.

16:13:42 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Balanced attempted to cast a spell upon us.

16:13:39 - Fire rains from the sky on our Traitor army! 15 troops burned to death.

16:13:36 - Fire rains from the sky on our Traitor army! 18 troops burned to death.

16:13:34 - Fire rains from the sky on our Traitor army! 22 troops burned to death.

16:13:32 - Fire rains from the sky on our Traitor army! 27 troops burned to death.

16:13:28 - Fire rains from the sky on our Traitor army! 34 troops burned to death.
You (1/4/2015 10:20:18 AM)
My magic use was nearly over , couldn't cast any real meaningful spells and had a bunch of new MT's and mages already being trained who all came out this morning , so thought i might aswell burn the few i had left out of boredom :P

You guys were perfectly civil and seemed to have no real problem with me after i attacked you up until you failed to kill me.


01:30:58 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

Anyway , This is going to be my last taunting / flaming / fuck you guys post. From now on ill just be posting about the era in here. We both know what happened that era and this one. 


01:31:50 Feb 18th 15 - Rora (Ms. Crystal Goddess of War):

I think you've nearly found the key. only nearly though. We didn't fail to kill you, we succeeded in that actually. We just failed to defend ourselves against everyone else.

They key though.. Yes were civil about your sneak attack, that wasn't the end of the world, it didn't get you anywhere. It was simply your attitude that turned things around. That is the key to why everyone in this kingdom seems to dislike you very much, mostly everyone anyways.

No more needs to be said on the matter, it simply is what it is.


01:37:43 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

Not sure how you killed me when i didn't restart and had all of my cities when era ended. The ones you took from me i took back when i went to war with dirty birds ( he took them from you) and i had all my troops and cities that id built when i sent scouts out still in my possesion. 


And tbh i've been an arrogant cunt to MAL on purpose. People tend to react like that when you call them traitorous scum just because they attacked you with the element of suprise (wasn't even a suprise i messaged mighty dragon before i attacked) in a war game.


01:41:38 Feb 18th 15 - Rora (Empress Aurora):

It's not the element of surprise that aggrovates me. It's that you didn't even care  to reply to the peace offering after several days and then attacked. It's that Dragon could have just killed  you to begin with and none of this nonsense would be going on.

Sure, we somewhat did that to you this era.. Although it's not quite the same, You messaged me too late. He attacked you oop and you intended  to fight him anyways if he didn't reply. Whereas we suspected you were new to the game before, so we weren't so quick to kill you.


01:46:44 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

I messaged you too late , however i messaged barty before dakarta even settled his cities. I also messaged dakarta TWICE and he ignored them both which is why when i messaged to you i stated i was going to attack him if he didn't reply. I messaged him before he even started building asking him not to build here. Ask Dakarta and bartimaeus yourself. 


I sent barty a long , RP message which i suspected he did not thumbs up :P saying that i meant no disrespect by leaving the kingdom , would not attack any of you guys and was only leaving because we was landed in different spots. He ignored the message. 

I then messaged Dakarta and he ignored my message. 

Then , because you had seemed the most civil last era , i decided to message you. I did not threaten to attack him in the messages i sent him and barty. It was after him ignoring me and me realising he was clearly stalling i said i would attack. 


02:07:47 Feb 18th 15 - Djinn Bartimaeus (Mr. Bartimaeus):

Yesu you talk so much shyt..... Im glad you have EITS. As an elf you should be able to see what we are sending. and quite frankly for you to be an experienced players you have already taken to long to kill someone who you have 3x the land of. You need to take your head out of your as*. I had nothing against you until you started flaming on Forums. Grow up. Its a god dam game.


#nuffsaid


lol


02:13:05 Feb 18th 15 - Teirdel (Mr. Uncrowned Titan):

Actually the flaming is quite nice for the rest of us. Makes the forums not seem so dead...bad publicity but still i is.


02:22:35 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

I didnt even EiTs you someone else did lol and 'taken so long' , one day. lol i fell asleep. 


02:23:38 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

Mr. Bartimaeus (2/17/2015 4:36:55 AM)GOODBAD
I would enjoy living for the time being :)
You (2/17/2015 10:13:53 AM)
Why, because of your tiny 294 nazguls? The only reason that Dakarta is still alive is because i was stockpiling resources to build a 90K in a short time , so when he attacked i had a lot of gold but not alot of troops. A problem that has been rectified. I see your puny army and i garuntee it won't leave my core alive.

Taunting me and then getting upset because i called your army puny. hilarious 


02:24:36 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

And you guys stop lying. he wasn't a third of my land , it was 'you own a bit more land' because i wrecked all the blockers i built.


02:51:07 Feb 18th 15 - Dakarta (Lord Dacarta):

No, it was "three times as much land"..


03:12:03 Feb 18th 15 - Sir Yisrahel Igba of Yesu:

Dont know what it was before tbh , but when you took lagos it was 'own a bit more' and lagos is one of my smaller cities so i doubt i owned three times you but its neither here nor there. it took you guys even longer to kill me last era and the size difference was even bigger. 


04:07:20 Feb 18th 15 - Rora (Heavenly Crystal The War Goddess):

Last era all you did was run away until you hid behind enemy lines :p


07:55:01 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Testtttttttttttttt:

The way I see it a lot of complaining in this thread is invalid. VU is a wargame, being the strongest kingdom is the goal and killing your enemy kingdoms is the means. Sure there is an element of chance (dice), but you hedge your odds by seeking favorable battles and avoiding unfavorable ones.

Last era Malificent fought well vs it's enemies and VUE (rip) + DB (still here) and it was an interesting era. This era Malificent is still on the map, and we have the really solid newer group of players that played on Zetamania and Valhalla with Aisha so it should be pretty fun.


08:25:22 Feb 18th 15 - Ms. Sick Dwarf:

Honestly, you all sound like a bunch of clowns and it's disgusting to read this middle school tier shit.


09:12:24 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

My cities were never behind enemy lines...Not sure what your talking about lol. I was south east of mighty dragons blocker , North of DB and and north east of VUE. You didn't have to march through either of them to reach me , i was withing 10 ticks of your blocker lol 


09:14:39 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

Ms. Crystal Goddess of War (2/1/2015 12:51:55 AM)GOODBAD
trust me, I was able to get back to our core and kill a few other armies before they did damage.

The only reason they did damage is because we couldn't launch a counterattack because they always had another army on the way to us. Poly as well was quite persistent.

You did alright though, just don't be so *beep*y about it.

All in all it was a fairly balanced game, with Anon and Barney of course being victors lol.



From 'you did alright though' to 'you ran away all era'.

Interesting. Is there an academy for these U turns or is it all natural skill?


09:17:41 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Fezz:

seems like a very entertaining map/era 


10:07:33 Feb 18th 15 - Djinn Bartimaeus (Mr. Bartimaeus):

lol all in all it will be an interesting era. I really look forward to what Leila and them are doing on the western side of the map because based on our LoS they are moving, so lots of anticipation id say.


10:59:22 Feb 18th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

Lets hope you live long enough to find out barty :P 


12:08:38 Feb 18th 15 - Lady Leila:

Well its no secret, The Collective is fighting Dirty Birds, and Kingdom of Test.
My army just came to DB core and I have breached their blocker
I guess you don't send three guys to do a woman's job :P


12:12:40 Feb 18th 15 - Dark Spawn (Mr. Dominion):

Shush you!
We broke their core yesterday!
:)


19:31:43 Feb 18th 15 - Jack Daniels The drunk (Mr. Jack The Righteous):

which blocker was it that you breached exactly looks to me like hirogen hunter is the one who breached the blocker


23:28:23 Feb 18th 15 - Lady Leila:

I took Clever City Nam, but it revolted the next tick...


01:07:07 Feb 19th 15 - Ms. Seven of Nine:

LOL at the dice on this one :D

^^




We killed all of the 22220 troops.

Our troops gained +1 extra experience.

chance=90
dice=89.62001


02:54:48 Feb 19th 15 - Dakarta (Lord Dacarta):

Lol.. One time I took over a city at 40% and killed all the troops.


12:20:27 Feb 19th 15 - Alrisaia (Mr. Alrisaio The Beholden):

I had a take at 35% and killed them all as well. It was a lucky and risky move but paid off.


12:25:08 Feb 19th 15 - Mr. Hirogen Hunter:

Last era on Valhalla I came to SS blocker, there were 350k troops inside, I had 34% at full prep, got bless and happiness that got me to 41% and I killed them all, pretty much turned the tide in that war, if I had lost it would take much longer. The post by Aisha was as how close the roll went even if she did have high chance.


14:32:35 Feb 19th 15 - Mr. Scimitar Warbird:

This has been a fun era so far, but I feel I did better last era when I had a little bit more time to build economy and go directly at Berserker training. Those beasts are my favorites by far, but I guess I will get to see rock throwers in action, and especially looking forward to training some Warlords, they look bada$$ with those skulls as throphies behind their back


16:55:07 Feb 20th 15 - Princess Aisha:

This turned out to be quite enjoyable era so far, I like Nirvana :-) 


18:32:49 Feb 20th 15 - Jack Daniels The drunk (Mr. Jack The Righteous):

yeah my kd leader quit and you killed my elf so you can imagine how enjoyable it is for me


18:56:41 Feb 20th 15 - Mr. Valverde:

I'm with JD on this one. I went from warring 1 vs 7 to getting blindsided by another KD when I was in the process of rebuilding.


19:33:34 Feb 20th 15 - Mr. Sesugh Yisrahel The Wise:

Meanwhile its a sunny day in the southern Measuring sticks core as we fend off ignorant intruders wishing to freeload on our land because the collectives are killing them off , beat back the forces of MAL and generally be awesome


19:50:26 Feb 20th 15 - Ms. Manymistakes:

You are perhaps the most annoying person to ever play this game.


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