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Zetamania 30
22:18:25 Apr 14th 14 - Kobuskan (Sir Gigger):

Why deleting my new wall, it was not blocking, there was room on the left side to get passed the treeline.

Very convinient for Shoalin to get it out of the way

 


22:35:20 Apr 14th 14 - Mr. Orc Warrior:

The timing could be completely coincidental, but it does seem a bit fishy that once Shaolin went through our GW, it only took 2 tics to remove all that GW mess. It has been up for several days now, so why at this moment?


22:52:58 Apr 14th 14 - Bran (Mr. Shaolin Bran):

because i reported it to zeta along with the vertical wall you planted. it appeared impassable and i guess zeta thought so too.
nothing fishy, why would zeta make a game just so he could be bias towards one team? that doesnt make sense. i doubt a mod can delete GWs


23:00:26 Apr 14th 14 - Valar (Dreadlord Valarion):

Gather a mob and burn down Brans castle!!


*sells pitchforks*


23:00:45 Apr 14th 14 - SunWarriorKing (Mr. Jose Cuervo):

This is why I hate this map. You cannot at all make blockers on those parts where it says you will fall off the map if you make a city here and now you try making a GW and that's deleted because its impassable. Come on now!


23:04:36 Apr 14th 14 - Bran (Mr. Shaolin Bran):

*sells pitchforks*

always look out for the guy profiteering off of wars



sun - that GW was built in a way that it was bound to be impassable. that isnt the fault of the map. perhaps the borders could be sorted out, but the map is what it is. Its the same for every kd so it can just be accepted as an aspect of the strategy


23:12:03 Apr 14th 14 - Kobuskan (Sir Gigger):

So you did go wining at Zeta to get the wall away.

The wall was passable and was taken away for no reason.

If forch marching merges and wall removing  for no reason else then to there convienence is the way Shoalin wants to win then go for it, but dont expect me to ever come bck to zetamania again.

Is there really no honor left in Shoalin ??

 

 


23:15:35 Apr 14th 14 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

is this really Kob talking about honor?


23:45:59 Apr 14th 14 - Ms. Bobblehead Bran:

ye i agree shaolin is a dirty kingdom. let's throw soap and water at them and watch their dirty bodies turn clean and sexy ;)


23:51:31 Apr 14th 14 - Bran (Mr. Whatamidoinghere):

this is not the best place to drop the soap.. jus sayin


03:43:03 Apr 15th 14 - Mr. Willy Warcloud:

I wouldn't drop any soap around you guys :P



04:33:50 Apr 15th 14 - Mr. Joebob The Magnificent:

If you guys are going to take away our GW's then why hasn't your army slowed?? or at least had troops dying. Since technically when your army is merged and controlled by an orc who is force marching it, shouldn't it be slowly dying ?? and if Zeta is fixing so called glitches why hasn't the orc army be losing troops??

 

 

 


06:30:01 Apr 15th 14 - Valar (Mr. Actively Inactive):

Because the orc army is 1 gaia (or naz w/e). There's nothing to lose. Its dirty and cheap but every KD can do it, just need an active orc.


07:07:23 Apr 15th 14 - Kobuskan (Sir Gigger):

If this is considered normal behaviour why is exp feeding considered to be not done.


07:12:00 Apr 15th 14 - Valar (Mr. Joar Addam Nesossin):

There are degrees of "creative use of game mechanics". While simply moving a merge a little faster is not exactly game breaking, feeding XP can pretty much make one person unbeatable.


There are lots of things you COULD do to gain an advantage but generally people wont stoop that low.


07:57:06 Apr 15th 14 - Kobuskan (Mr. Zwapper):

Moving faster by forch march normally causes loss of troops by about 10%, using this bug is not causing loss of troops of armies in the merge.

Foul play

Bug should be fixed


11:24:48 Apr 15th 14 - Bran (Mr. Shaolin Bran):

i think youll find i advocated removing of the bug. but we wont stop doing it until it is removed, it has been an acceptable strategy on this map each of the recent eras ive played here


14:00:01 Apr 15th 14 - Mr. Joebob The Magnificent:

Yeah but when I merge my army into another army I no longer can do anything but unmerge so it is technically all the orc's army so it should be losing troops.


16:19:07 Apr 15th 14 - Mr. Necro Emporos:

Then you don't know how merges work. :P It's not a "bug" it's just how the game works. There's no way to "fix" it without changing a lot of how the game works. I had never seen it done before last era when Monks used it fighting us. I know how annoying it is and I don't like it. But I do give props to whoever thought of doing it. In all the eras I played on Zeta I had never seen it before and never thought of it myself. It's smart, annoying, but smart. You're just going to have to deal with it or do it yourselves to make it even. :P

Anyway, I'm going back to being dead. GG Monks, I know you haven't won yet but it was clear from the start that you were going to. I mean, without Death Dealers to stop you what hope did anyone else have. ;)


17:48:50 Apr 15th 14 - Ms. Bobblehead Bran:

if you were given 24 hours grace period, would you all be willing to merge your kingdoms together to make this more interesting?


18:09:09 Apr 15th 14 - Konspyre (Mr. Pooh Bear):

You should probably discuss deals like that with your own leadership first, Bobblehead, or you'd be making empty promises.


18:16:00 Apr 15th 14 - Mr. Willy Warcloud:

12:19:07 Apr 15th 14 - Mr. Necro Emporos:

Then you don't know how merges work. :P It's not a "bug" it's just how the game works. There's no way to "fix" it without changing a lot of how the game works. I had never seen it done before last era when Monks used it fighting us. I know how annoying it is and I don't like it. But I do give props to whoever thought of doing it. In all the eras I played on Zeta I had never seen it before and never thought of it myself. It's smart, annoying, but smart. You're just going to have to deal with it or do it yourselves to make it even. :P

Anyway, I'm going back to being dead. GG Monks, I know you haven't won yet but it was clear from the start that you were going to. I mean, without Death Dealers to stop you what hope did anyone else have. ;)


Not true I thought of this the first era merges and great walls came back and have used it ,when beo was still on zeta so it been around for quite awhile.

                                                                                                                           Jenna


18:26:57 Apr 15th 14 - Ms. Bobblehead Bran:

You're no leader, you're just a figurehead


21:47:34 Apr 15th 14 - Mr. Joebob The Magnificent:

I think were going to give you a fun time no matter what happens Forsaken and Trolls are going to keep fighting and so that leaves Tip of the Spear and Shaolin and we have already basically killed off one member. if we can repel your amy we might make this interesting :)


02:16:32 Apr 16th 14 - Mr. Eternal Sonata:

How it works is quite simple really.... get 1 gaia or 1 nazzy or 1 ogre whatever you want have everyone merge into it. Then use force march on that 1 person army. It moves twice as fast yay!

Now as merge leader you cant technically merge into it without screwing yourself but theirs a way around that. An its simple.

You merge into someone else who then merges into a 1 gaia scout of yours that you then merge into the other merge your leading an thus combine 1 gaia with 1 gaia while your main bulk of troops also merges into the merge it is as a separate division in the merge as a different army an keeps its status as an underling army to merge leading army. An it will show as such when the enemy clicks on the merge :) an you avoid the penalty to losing troops :p

If you need to add troops to the merge you can do what you did to get the second army into the merge aka merge into someone that then merges into a scout of yours or you can just go to a city an transfer all your troops into the army that isnt leading the merge simply by moving them into city then into army that you want.



02:46:16 Apr 16th 14 - Binh (Mr. Binh The Wacko):

so when is monk gonna send another merge to kill me? I'm growing a bit bore. Maybe I'll have to break out of my comfort zone and search for something to kill instead? Hmmmm


13:03:12 Apr 16th 14 - Mr. Nirvanargyle:

Take a chill pill Binh, we are working on it!


14:01:16 Apr 16th 14 - Bran (Mr. Shaolin Bran):

yea we got bigger fish to fry :)


17:27:46 Apr 16th 14 - Kobuskan (Sir Gigger):

Cheaters won, thx Shaolin for spoiling a good game


22:55:36 Apr 17th 14 - Mr. Willy Warcloud:

:(


03:52:59 Apr 18th 14 - shyers (Grandmaster Baiter):

Bugs, they are a way of life in this game, you get used to it. This bug though equals out as everyone can use it. Sometimes it's not best to always be a halfer and I think this is a good addition to the game to help level off some of the halfer supremacy. Playing the game with knowledge enough to protect against the bugs though is just another side of the game.


10:52:52 Apr 18th 14 - The Real Josh (Mr. Sorin):

Kobu I wonder if you had this much of a sook when beo was exp farming and city swapping and a few other things I wont mention to tarnish the "awesome" reputation of beo, or is only bug abuse and cheating when you or your team arnt using them?


So if you wanna slander us I suggest your slate is clean!


11:12:35 Apr 18th 14 - Sir Asterix:

i dont remember the exp farming?


11:56:34 Apr 18th 14 - Kobuskan (Sir Gigger):

Weird thing is also that when Shoalin sends a request to Zeta for removal a perfectly placed and passable wall they get instand help and when I make a request I don,t even get an answer.


11:57:17 Apr 18th 14 - Princess Aisha:

Kobu was exp feeding in kingdom called Music. He left the Kd in middle of the era and then there were a bunch of other halfers at his cities to possibly steal food that gives him bunch of exp if he has armies inside. Quite easy to do, and the entire map saw that he was doing it.


12:06:40 Apr 18th 14 - Kobuskan (Mr. Zwapper):

Almost true but yes, quilty.

And I had the whole community of VU cursing me for it.

Now i make a remark of abusing the forch march bug and I am not allowed to say anything ?

So forch marching a merge is allowed and exp feeding is not ?

What is the difference, both a bug, both within the game dinamics, both not something to get banned for, both foul play, both unhonorable

 


12:45:54 Apr 18th 14 - Princess Aisha:

You are right Kobu, and I stand by you completelly, cheating and abusing should never be used, and when people do it, someone has to say it on forums for all to see. But VU has changed, honor and respect mean very little these days, that is why you see NAP breaking, abusing all kinds of bugs and all that these days. You will complain for few days, and then soon after it will be forgotten and its like nothing happened.


13:16:30 Apr 18th 14 - shyers (Mr. Shyers The Monkey):

I was a mod abusing cheating bastard.... Now I'm a monk.... I stand by the fact that this is a war game and nearly anything goes. Being honorable in this game is held to to high of a standard. I just got punked in fant and wiped out in one day by my own kdmate and this is the first y'all are hearing about it. I didn't hit the forums and say "I honorable player, look out!!!" 

Bug abuse has gone on so long how can you call it abuse? It's more of a way to play the game. Look at RL, the richest people made their millions off the backs of the poor by ripping them off.


13:17:28 Apr 18th 14 - Bran (Mr. Shaolin Bran):

bug abusing isnt new. probably half the ppl who won the era up to era 30 did so through bug abuses


21:55:55 Apr 18th 14 - Teirdel (Mr. Chalkz):

Ya honor really doesn't mean too much anymore. I personally just quit trying to play the diplomat and unless you have a history with me just take NAP/MAP with a grain of salt.


As for bug abuse, ya this bug has been around since zeta became merge and even before that I believe. I don't see the point in bringing it up now. It has been discussed before and nothing has changed. Perhaps Zeta actually likes seeing the bug used as a strategy. he has let things slide before because they actually added depth to the game. As far as im concerned I say let it stay. I know if I get a chance to I will use it and I wont put monks down for it either.


02:25:07 Apr 19th 14 - The Real Josh (Prince Sladen):

All I can say is that I bet they thought thr trojan hkrse was cheat as well :p


06:38:56 Apr 19th 14 - Mr. Haggar Horrible:

I don't see the problem either. f it is a glitch bth sides can use then it is a game dynamic and seems fair to me. On a personal note , I haven't played in a long time and this is my first time dealing with merges and honestly didn't know about that glitch. I do now so next time Ill know.  I have learned several other things as well so obviously there is a learning curve here.

Im good with that...... play on.


10:52:15 Apr 19th 14 - Grandmaster Of Imperia (Mr. Spot Lock Luck Ass):

shyers no one punked you , you disbanded our KD the second we got attacked and joined someone who was attacking me , so i attacked them and you...


you was supposed to be the leader.


12:10:46 Apr 19th 14 - Princess Aisha:

shyers, who ever has Kath in their kingdom is asking for trouble... just sayin'


20:00:49 Apr 19th 14 - shyers (Grandmaster Baiter):

we were nap-ed with poofs. i just consolidated the KD for protection due to the map, you were welcomed to join as well. I mentioned all this to you, but got no response so i took action based on your activity level, and disbanded/joined myself not willing to wait more than two days for your response. A rogue Black Flag attacked us, then which Hambone kicked him and then you joined the rogue who was attacking me. thats the truth of it. I'm not crying about it so i have no idea why you are.


00:37:36 Apr 20th 14 - Grandmaster Of Imperia (Mr. Spot Lock Luck Ass):

you messaged me AFTER DISBANDING


02:56:48 Apr 20th 14 - shyers (Grandmaster Baiter):

no, i put it in the KD forum 2 days before. again, this is apparently a big deal to you for some reason, and i'm the one that got reset. lol.  this was also at least 8 ticks after i got attacked, not the second i got attacked, it was all i the works before hand, i dont think poofs would have asked me to join them if i was under the direct threat of dieing.
its water under the bridge, get over it.


19:25:14 Apr 21st 14 - Mr. Newhuman:

I think we should add new spell call great wall destroy...  so our magic can destroy any wall on the map. (should add at lv6 or lv7) so what everyone think ?


21:09:00 Apr 21st 14 - Kobuskan (Sir Gigger):

Shoalin allready have that spell, its called pm admin


22:15:40 Apr 21st 14 - Ms. Jerks Are Jer:

why not just alter "crush walls" to be able to after so many success's create a small gap for armies to get through. 


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