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But seeing we are now fighting i think every top power, and fixing to die by fate and mad. their honestly was no point. Fate and MAD worked for our cities and deserve them. Instead you guys attack and are gonna get them.

Im sorry, but thats wrong, way wrong.

it is ok Zond, no one deserves our cities really, but it is unfortunate they wouldnt spare us considering how many fights we have and how many people from domination are actually alive to fight lol.

oh well that is how this game goes i guess.

We dont have less wars than you do Saiyan. We just win ours. Sorry if it sounds like an insult. It isnt meant that way. We do realise you have some good players who are holding strong. But all in all we got plenty of wars as well.

Ehh, we made the same mistake. We had half of RVL sitting in our core a few weeks ago. Its hard to make blockers that works on this map. 

We got what 4-5 people truely alive and kicking XD

Yeah, but HIV has me, and I'm like worth negative 20 people with all the stupid sh*t I do....

You (1/25/2010 11:30:32 AM)
yea i see them, they are next. but cleaning up here. and doms starta core is about gone, but we still have an awesome force on the move, anything can happen. though i only have a couple production cities from oop there anyways. my rest are sprend everywhere since we picked so many fights lol
Lord Deno Pan (1/25/2010 12:04:05 PM)
yeah we allready talked about, that we dont want to war y ou guys as you have to many wars allready as it is hehe. Looks like you got some realy strong ppl going still though.

That's why my guys are a bit upset.

upset that they said they wouldn't war us and than when we took our troops away from them theey attacked :/

I'm not saying it was official, I'm just saying... It's a bit anoying..

It's not usually the HIV Leadership who want to war this or that alliance, it's the rank & file who are battle crazed...

You (1/25/2010 11:30:32 AM)
yea i see them, they are next. but cleaning up here. and doms starta core is about gone, but we still have an awesome force on the move, anything can happen. though i only have a couple production cities from oop there anyways. my rest are sprend everywhere since we picked so many fights lol
Lord Deno Pan (1/25/2010 12:04:05 PM)
yeah we allready talked about, that we dont want to war y ou guys as you have to many wars allready as it is hehe. Looks like you got some realy strong ppl going still though.

That's why my guys are a bit upset.

i totally agree with that :(

For every to know, that message was between me and deno, Not lew. 

Not that it matters but still.

also, im having fun atm :D got lucky against ryan ;) and now to out pump him! (not likely, he has troops alredy to bring, i dont lol)

I am glad you are having fun Maximus. And to be fair, at the time i told you that we didnt want to war you i firmly believed that we didnt. So i wasnt lying to you or anything. Wich i never do. But as the game is dynamic and changes all the time, so dos perspective and goals. 

I understand that, but not my call.

Duke Random



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05:26:47 Jan 30th 10 FANTASIA SUCKS!


Amen brah!

Many friends? I doubt it, other than that stinky belgium who never stops talking of you. I hear you two are dating now?

Hey Lew.  Not that its much of a consolation but when he sent that message, we did not want to fight you guys.  If he would have known that you guys were taking that message as some degree of NAP then he likely would have given a warning.  Even now, I don't think anyone really *wants* to fight you guys.  In a perfect world you guys would be fighting  MAD and Fate with all your armies and our two kingdoms would have no contact.  Instead there is all these armies and holdings belonging to you guys surrounding our cities which we've captured on all of our fronts. On Nirvana at least I know a lot of them are those ex-psychedelic cities.  A couple weeks ago I was thinking "I hope Dom ceasefires with Psychedelic.  They are having problems in their core but Lews army keeps coming west (towards HIV).  At this rate we will end up with some diplomatic problems."

If you were in our situation, would you allow unaligned armies and armories to exist within range of undefended mines that you conquered? I realized a while ago that we had to either nap or war you guys.  I honestly didn't have an opinion which, because both plans had their pros and cons.  If we warred you guys it'd be kicking someone when they are down (which we didn't want to do).  If we NAP, it would mean more farming and people these days are terrified of the term "NAP".  NAP too many kingdoms and people start crying in the forums and even your own kingdom mates disapprove (you are well aware of this).  A few people are bellyaching even about the ones we have now
.....Although, those people were noticeably quieter when things weren't looking as well for us.

I'm of the opinion that from a purely strategic point of view it would probably have been in our best interests to do a NAP.   Other concerns often override what is best strategically however as you are well aware.  We put off the decision too long because it is a difficult one to make. In fact, if different vices were online the decision might even have gone the other way?  You know the people in here well enough to know that no trickery was intended.  You also should know that we are not looking to wipe you guys out.  The goal is just to improve security in local areas.

Then why is there so many armies left on nirvana where there is no enemy?  Who is to say that you wouldn't make some kind of peace and turn on us?  GOTF already did it this age.  One second they were begging us to come in and kill revelation for them, giving us maps of their core, telling us the location and strengths of rvl armies.  Then without any word they cut off communication and start attack us with rvl while we were still warring no pulse and brethren.

No matter what you come up with, having no relations with someone you border is a bad idea.  It would be foolish to think otherwise.  Like I said, this all stems back to how centerstage NAPs have become in this game.  You have people overdoing it.  You have people who freak out when any NAP is made.

Lately I've noticed kingdoms no longer have NAPs, they instead have "agreements" that basically summarized are "You don't attack me, we wont attack you", which sounds a hell of a lot like a NAP to me.  Everyone is just so petrified of being labeled a NAP whore that situations like these where a nap would be perfectly logical are instead overlooked.  This goes for you guys as well as us.  Instead you rely on some friendly (and "unofficial") chatter between an HIV vice and a domination non-vice.

I agree with Rev. Both here and in the Gotf thread. 

Our kd has ceasefires, and if we wish to attack a 36 hour warning must be given. Or at least it did. This way if someone wants to break a cf, they can with their honor and it gives us time to prepare. So both parties are happy.

Mr. Path Report 23:25:52 Jan 30th 10

Then why is there so many armies left on nirvana where there is no enemy?  Who is to say that you wouldn't make some kind of peace and turn on us?  GOTF already did it this age.  One second they were begging us to come in and kill revelation for them, giving us maps of their core, telling us the location and strengths of rvl armies.  Then without any word they cut off communication and start attack us with rvl while we were still warring no pulse and brethren. No matter what you come up with, having no relations with someone you border is a bad idea.  It would be foolish to think otherwise.  Like I said, this all stems back to how centerstage NAPs have become in this game.  You have people overdoing it.  You have people who freak out when any NAP is made. Lately I've noticed kingdoms no longer have NAPs, they instead have "agreements" that basically summarized are "You don't attack me, we wont attack you", which sounds a hell of a lot like a NAP to me.  Everyone is just so petrified of being labeled a NAP whore that situations like these where a nap would be perfectly logical are instead overlooked.  This goes for you guys as well as us.  Instead you rely on some friendly (and "unofficial") chatter between an HIV vice and a domination non-vice.

to answer you question Path about

"Then why is there so many armies left on nirvana where there is no enemy?"

we were finishing off the rest of the psyc cities, and for 2 days we were waiting to get our relationship sorted out with Pokemon, we were surrounding them at this moment and wanted to know what their intentions were before taking off to arma/fanta/mantrax etc...

In my area North nirvana there are 5 of our enemies neighbouring me well now it is 6 with your mental dude attacking me and i am also busy on the other side with MAD already attacking me from aram..

Dunno what you can see up north but we are not sitting around and doing nothing in nirvana. We had too many things to deal with at once.

Personally i completely understand your position and why you would want to attack us. Get to those fanta cities before mad and fate do lol, how else can you secure a win, it is a big chunk of land, so complete makes sense.

But on nirvana we are way too busy to even come close to want to fight you guys... you simply diverted us from focusing on mad and fate...unfortunately

I'm female LMFAO!!!  And why mention me separate to the rest of the conversation?

@ Saiyan

lolz np :)

I am expected to honour all FATE NAP's upon leaving their KD but since BoW and FATE were the only people to have issues with me changing KD's mid era, I have been ordered (since joining HIV) to observe all FATE and HIV NAP's even tho they don't recognise any reciprocal NAP with me.  Woo hoo!  Talk about a gangbang!  You think you are being hard done by hun...come to Mental land!  We have 1950's drink prices here...come join the happy hour and take one of my tavernes!!  I am NAPped and at war with everyone all at the same time!!!  It's a farkin blast!!!

I don't train hobos this late in the era just for fun lolz I am a bit more clevererrr than that.

he better be. they own >:] just ask the guy on my city :D

lol they great for spamming and making someone stay at ur city for like 3 rl days now hehe

or 2. cant remember lol