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Due to the Angels odd reason to defend Cannabis, that I have yet to understand, and our desire to remove their scouts from our territory... Angels have cancelled the CF we had with them.

And now, that the Angels are seen with 6,000 troops marching at our lands, the WAR is back on.

SPQR vs ANGELS.

Good luck maggots, looking for a reason to try to fight us was a bad idea.... you should just have taken your peace and used it.

Cannabis are following Angels.. hah.

SPQR vs ANGELS & CANNABIS

Trogdar...you really should stop running your mouth, you are very *beep*y...and over confident!

So once you are wipped off the map dont come crying on the forums, take that where someone cares....

I smell a hiding getting dished out by Trog...lol...canabis gonna get smoked...hahahahahhahahah

How many people want to kill him(trogdar) other than me?????

How many people want to kill him(trogdar) other than me?????

I dont-I love Trog...so cute and all...cept when he gets mad...then you get pawned...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaahhahahahahahahhaa..

so do FF, Elements and virtually every KD...its not exclusive so dont make that an excuse.

Ms. Argon Report 5/23/2008 10:31:49 PM

Sir Trogdar Liech Report 5/23/2008 10:13:57 PM Trogdar...you really should stop running your mouth, you are very *beep*y...and over confident! So once you are wipped off the map dont come crying on the forums, take that where someone cares.... heh, I won't have to come crying here, you will just run away screaming cheat like elements are... you're abusing the market system and you're still losing...

Mr. Bling Bob Report 5/23/2008 11:00:51 PM

so do FF, Elements and virtually every KD...its not exclusive so dont make that an excuse.

how is she making it an execuse?

wow were really behind haha

haha nice preds, after farming all era, stealing the spoils of our war, you backstab us breaking the 72 hour warning we have in our nap agreement while we fight 2 other kds, arent you the best ally evahhh :D

We still alive! WOOT WOOT!

You all know Cease is gonna take this era! Lets hear it for Cease!

Air...you gotta stop smoking that pot son...making you paranoid and dillusional....not everbody wants to steal your citys....as you learned from last era i'm big on burning..farmers dont burn citys for fun...

For crying out loud people.

Now, raise your hand if you've ever sold some stone for .6 to see if someone sells so you can buy it?

Now, raise your hand if you've seen all the food market below the native buy point and bought it all to sell to natives at profit?

Ok, now raise your hand if you see anything wrong with buying stone at .5 and selling it at .9 so your KD StGr can buy and convert it when he's on. (cause you happened to see it first)

So lets stop complaining about the market.
You cant sell for higher than everyone else sees and be able to buy it.  It's not like prior eras where you could sell at whatever value you wanted.  The market is pretty transparent and obvious.

Also regarding SPQR and Trog.  The guy has a temperament of an Orc (why he's a halfling this era I'll never know) get used to it.

Also, there's really only 3 or perhaps 4 active SPQR members.  Yes we are losing, yes we are trying hard.  But lets call a spade a spade, and not throw stones in glass houses.

I hate talking on forums.  But who's actually fighting Elements and not just tickling them?

umm....buy low sell high?  does that sound familiar?  and if it was considered an "exploit" or "abuse"  don't you think VU would have done something about it by now?

they are feeding... the nubbie players from SPQR is selling really low price everything for there leaders... like for hammer , trogdar and some else.. when those  nubtards buy that, they sell big prices... understod? buy low sell high.. from kd mates... thats all... maybe there is more...

well...i can honestly say i wasn't privy to this information till people started complaining about it and i asked trogdar directly.  this is techinically my 2nd, era, but realistically my first as i joined the last era with about 15 ticks left, so with that being said, i'm new to all this stuff.

and Elements...didn't i just burn to the ground a city of Water's called Feeding Time?  I'd say that's evidence of you doing the same.  the city had nothing to do with farms btw, it was all houses and mines. 

I must say for only having 3-4 active members Frumentarri is doing a great job.

Lmao, a city name means we feed...

fire from the sky!

but it gives bad indigestion though....

"Do I really need to get an ex SPQR member on this forum to testify that you have indeed abused the market last era, and that you have done so this era too?"

I don't mind if you get someone Argon.  I also don't mind if you or they or anyone for that matter thinks is abuse (except Zeta).  But, it's not cheating, it's not abuse, and it certainly is fine.  Why?  I'm glad you asked.  Because we spoke with Zeta on MSN on four occasions.  He didn't feel it was against the rules nor abusive of the system because everyone has equal chance to buy what's on the market.  We are not tricking the game into creating a higher price or false lower one.

It isn't a case of city swapping, making an entire KD of new accounts to feed your KD when you take them over (seen it), making new accounts in you're own KD under protection as blockers (:cough: you know who you are), I could go on.  Simply put, until Zeta asks me, tells me, informs me, suggests to me differently, then I consider the market open for use however people chose to use it.

A KD is about people doing what they do best and each playing a part.  Orc battle, Halflings farm, Dwarves mine, Human's if done right StG better than anyone, etc etc.

actually....i'm not sure what that was....

Anyone who has played this game long enough know that Zeta doesnt punish people for abusing the system(Smiths, anyone?). But he has on many occations tried to fix the market to make what SPQR is now doing impossible. Yet with the walls gone slave-feeding has become viable on lower worlds. I'm not crying out for SPQR to be punished, I'm crying out for fellow Mantraxians to sell slaves at high prices and keep an eye on the market so they can scoop up the slaves when SPQR sells them back at low price. Some hours ago a kd member of Elements managed to buy almost 93.5k slaves @ 50 gold/slave. Had we not realized what they where doing we would never had kept an eye out for that and they could have transferred millions over the market. I dont think we catch all their sells but we've defenitly made it alot harder for them - and that is the only reason why they are loosing. This means they have transferred or where trying to transfer:

85gold(counting current marketprice, they could probly get more)*93500 = 7947500 gold transferred to an orc.

7947500/8500 = 935 nazguls.

Now, thats 1 naz per slave transferred. We dont know how many slaves have gone back and forth but we're pretty sure they have managed to transfer some money. Had they been left alone on the market they could have done that several times every day, just two successfull transfers would have made them the most powerfull army on the map. Interestingly enough, that is the size of some of the armies they have thrown against us:

Leaving Dodge from Mr. Wild West
Gaia:2
Hammerthrowers:27
Ogres:0
Shamans:0
Nazguls:911
Peasants:0

Dorian from Mr. Gargo  <--- this was after a RoF
Gaia:16
Hammerthrowers:1373
Ogres:0
Shamans:9477
Nazguls:759
Peasants:0

Could be a coincidence, but I think not. Either way, Air picking up those slaves costs them 8mil or makes it impossible for them to continue feeding wich means they are done for. I like the fact that SPQR dropped the bull*beep* and admitted what they are doing instead of lieing like you've done untill now.(I have long PMs of particulary Hammer lieing untill his tongue was black). Anyway, it was fun playing against you. Hope to see you again next era!

pluto .. ah seems u dont have a life writing this *beep*ed story...g/e.t a L,,,IF3 ;D.. to much free time u have buddy ;)

Took me a whopping 3 minutes to type that down. Thats why I got the naz/slaves wrong. Not saying I have a life though.....(I dont)