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Dogs getting stoned
14:51:48 Aug 27th 06 - Mr. Huo Yuanjia:

I dont know about any of you but i heard when dogs get stoned they either die... or are stoned for the rest of their natural life...

Anyway last night i made sum space cakes with around 45 worth inside left them on the side to cool whilst we dropped off my sister... got home and my dog had climbed the table and eaten the lot!!!!

and all the rumours are wrong.. nothing happened at all ecxept he was sick about 4 hours later....

bloody dog!


15:44:39 Aug 27th 06 - Mr. Pink Floyd:

hahaha


17:38:58 Aug 27th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

When my dog ate half a joint, he just laid on the couch and made funny noises for about 4-5 hrs, and was fine after that.

Must be a trip for a dog to get high, lol.


17:44:44 Aug 27th 06 - Mr. Huo Yuanjia:

he was lying down for quite a while lol and when i gopt him playing he was quite mad lol


18:15:35 Aug 27th 06 - Mr. Twamao:

i know someone who did a shotgun to a dog using marijuana.  the dog acted funny. the poor dog walks along the walls. 


23:28:29 Aug 27th 06 - Duke Highwayman:

I would rather see druggies getting stoned!


23:36:01 Aug 27th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

Ahhh yea, because smoking pot is so evil.


00:07:54 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado:

They only die if they Eat lots of Marijuana.It's the same with people.


00:40:12 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado:


You mean this?
(Edited by Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado 8/28/2006 12:43:24 AM)


00:46:57 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado:

HOW MUCH IS 45 EUROS? BECAUSE FOR $5 ME AND LIKE 5 OF MY FRIENDS CAN GET HIGH.


00:59:44 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Huo Yuanjia:

45 English pounds is around $70

 


01:00:27 Aug 28th 06 - Sir Efrandor:

45 euros is much more..

5 euros is more to, if the price hasn't gone down alot...


01:00:39 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Huo Yuanjia:

Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado


8/28/2006 12:07:54 AM
They only die if they Eat lots of Marijuana.It's the same with people.

 

Try reading my first post.... My dog "ATE" a quart and a ten in space cakes...

So your wrong they dont die...


01:02:29 Aug 28th 06 - Lady Spooky:

45 is more like $85 at the moment Katsu - the dollar exchange rate is great for us ATM.

45 Euros is about $57 BTW


(Edited by Lady Spooky 8/28/2006 1:03:07 AM)


(Edited by Lady Spooky 8/28/2006 1:05:53 AM)


01:03:56 Aug 28th 06 - Sir Efrandor:

It is, euuhm, then I must have mised something big the last months..

 

nevermind what I said beore Edgardo, perhaps it's a good deal anyway:P


01:26:57 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Huo Yuanjia:

Theres a Draught of the stuff in nottingham atm :(


06:22:18 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado:

Mr. Huo Yuanjia


8/28/2006 1:00:39 AM
Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado


8/28/2006 12:07:54 AM
They only die if they Eat lots of Marijuana.It's the same with people.

 

Try reading my first post.... My dog "ATE" a quart and a ten in space cakes...

So your wrong they dont die...

 You get it expenceve were you live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I can get a Quart like for $25  or just grow it for free.Sometime freeload off my friends.But I haven't gotten high in like for a year.


09:07:01 Aug 28th 06 - Duke Highwayman:

Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado


8/28/2006 12:40:12 AM

You mean this?
(Edited by Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado 8/28/2006 12:43:24 AM)

I so hope you are joking.  No I don't. Druggies are the scourge of society. Any society.


13:01:18 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

For the uninformed, and uneducated.

http://www.dope-seeds.com/untoldstory/hemp_6.htm

(Edited by Mr. Larry Flynt 8/28/2006 1:01:57 PM)


13:51:57 Aug 28th 06 - Duke Highwayman:

Thanks, but I prefer to take my medical advice from people who actually do some proper research, not just regurgitate populist propaganda.

Try here for the BMA's take on the issue.

And note that my comments were not against drugs per se but against druggies.  A tenner bag never stole a car stereo or mugged an old lady for it's next fix, but the druggie who NEEDS it probably did.


14:03:56 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

Druggies are crackheads, and heroin addicts. They are scum to let a chemical overrun there life, and commit crimes to support their habit. That I agree with, but when people who have no clue as to what there arguing when it comes to pot.

I work in the medical field, so I have some experience in the field.

Its narrow minded people who take what there told as gold and dont do proper research for themselves to arrive at there own opinion that are the dredges of socity.

If you dont call the link I posted proper research then you need to first understand what research is. Go learn for yourself, if not for the sake of arguement, but just so your properly informed before you attack something you know nothing about.


14:12:18 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

Also, nobody needs pot. People need alcohol more than need weed.

I have never heard of someone knocking off a store/person cuz they needed to smoke a joint.


14:29:46 Aug 28th 06 - Duke Highwayman:

Hmmm, let's see.  British Medical Association versus a self-confessed dope smokers personal web-site.

You are so correct Larry, I am really ignorant about research.  So you work in the medical field do you?  What as?  Brain surgeon?  Hospital Porter?  Psychiatric Nurse? Something else?

And what am I?  How can you possibly make the assessment that I am attacking something I know nothing about?  You really do like to fly off the handle don't you?

Nice to see you use the classic druggie apologist tactic though:  see if you can get us arguing about whether alcohol is better or worse than (so-called) recreational drugs.  A bit like asking us to compare apples and oranges really.

Simple fact:  both do harm, both can (in controlled circumstances) do some good - if you had bothered your arrse to read the link I gave you perhaps you would have noted the BMA advocating medicinal use of cannabis notwithstanding their very real concern about the long-term detrimental effects of regular use for non-medicinal purposes.  See countless recent PROPER pieces of research for more details.

Hint: try google for reclassification of cannabis and see what's happened to UK druggies since...

 


15:23:46 Aug 28th 06 - Admiral Krum:

I'm curious, who would you rather get in a car with, someone who just smoked a joint (regular smoker), or someone who drank a case of beer (regular drinker)?

I can tell you the alcoholic would probably never make it home alive...



15:38:00 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Edgardo Mendoza Maldonado:

I'll get in with someone that smoked a joint.


16:25:08 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Hugh Hefner:

My take:

I don't smoke it, so that's my personal choice and I let people make their own.

If nations want to curb kids from smoking it, take the 'thrill' out of it and make the stuff legal. Though that might hurt Holland's tourist industry. ;-)


16:29:11 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

You BMA site, is less accurate then the so called personal dope smokers site.

All you site did was say the exact same things we already know. The site I posted goes much deeper into it. Get past the first link I posted and read the rest of the site. Read the economic benifits it poses, saves resources (natural and man made).

All the fear of pot is based on lies and myths. People like you cant bring themselves to face the facts, you would rather just call us druggies and make fun of us.

Yes I work in the medical field. I am a Bio-Medical enginner. This druggie, designs, sets up, and maintains the labs that provide the drugs that save your life,  make your peepee hard, preserve the foods you eat and a whole list of any other things.

Like you said before you dont do any research for yourself, just rely on whatever crap your goverment puts up for you to believe, and you take that as gold.

So keep on being a good tool of socity, and dont think for yourself. Besides your so dam good at it.

It may be a classic argument, but its one that cant be beat.


16:47:45 Aug 28th 06 - Duke Highwayman:

Admiral Krum


8/28/2006 3:23:46 PM
I'm curious, who would you rather get in a car with, someone who just smoked a joint (regular smoker), or someone who drank a case of beer (regular drinker)?

I wouldn't get in the car with either of them.  Would you?  Would you let your children play in the street if you knew someone who had just smoked a joint - or had a single can of beer - was about to drive down that street?

Please all read the link I posted.  It details the beneficial aspects of cannabis. 

You see, I can take a balanced view.  But some people just refuse to accept that anything they enjoy can be harmful.  I suppose that 's why we have such problems with alcohol.  Notwithstanding that it is more addictive than cannabis of course before Mr Know It all corrects me again.


17:13:07 Aug 28th 06 - Admiral Krum:

Highwayman, I agree that neither would be the best choice, but if you had to choose 1, who would you choose?

I do not condone the use of pot, but the effects of its use is insiginificant compared to alcohol abuse.  You could smoke 10 pounds of pot and all it would do is give you a headache, sore throat, munchies, and a deep sleep, but drink 24 beers, and a 60 ouncer of Vodka, and you'll be in the hospital...or in a casket.


17:13:48 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

Well, if you knew what you were talking about to begin with then you wouldnt need to be corrected.

A single can of beer will not impair your driving ablity. So yes I would drive after 1 beer, would let my kids ride with me after 1 beer.

The comparsion asked was a joint, or a case of beer. (even though a 6 pack is enough) a case and ur gonna have a hard time finding your keys, nevermind your car.

I would rather walk, while I smoked my joint and enjoyed the nice night air, while quietly strolling along looking at all the wonders of life. Instead of some loud drunk stupor where I cause problems because Im drunk and have no control over my actions.

Get the point?


17:15:15 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

Im actually surprised to see your view on this Krum. I remember you being against drugs.


17:18:27 Aug 28th 06 - Duke Highwayman:

Mr. Larry Flynt


8/28/2006 5:13:48 PM
A single can of beer will not impair your driving ablity. So yes I would drive after 1 beer, would let my kids ride with me after 1 beer.

 

No comment


17:20:16 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

lol, why is that?

Are you so weak you get impaired off a single can of beer?



17:28:18 Aug 28th 06 - Duchess Bonnie Davina:

I knew a guy who could chuck a case of coors down and still have being able to walk a straight line.

One night, he had just one beer, took his baby for a drive to relax him, he survived. 

 


17:40:56 Aug 28th 06 - Duchess Bonnie Davina:

Duchess Bonnie Davina


8/28/2006 5:28:18 PM

I knew a guy who could chuck a case of coors down and still have being able to walk a straight line.

One night, he had just one beer, took his baby for a drive to relax him, he survived. 

 


Sorry, left off something.  He survived, the baby did not.  He lost everything for one can of beer and taking a little drive.........


17:44:50 Aug 28th 06 - Sir Efrandor:

"A single can of beer will not impair your driving ablity"

It doesn't have to do with weak or strong, have a friend that is like 150 centimeters, rather slim and weak, he can drink, drink drink and drink, and hardly never get's drunk, I'm almost 2 metres and I can drink a beer(3.5%) and feel it, some people can take more some people can't, I'm not sad tough, I'm poor so it get's cheap for me..

Drink one beer here in Sweden and drive and you will get a bill, and probably loose you're license, why, because one beer can affect you.


17:56:25 Aug 28th 06 - Duchess Bonnie Davina:

Sir Efrandor


8/28/2006 5:44:50 PM

"A single can of beer will not impair your driving ablity"

It doesn't have to do with weak or strong, have a friend that is like 150 centimeters, rather slim and weak, he can drink, drink drink and drink, and hardly never get's drunk, I'm almost 2 metres and I can drink a beer(3.5%) and feel it, some people can take more some people can't, I'm not sad tough, I'm poor so it get's cheap for me..

Drink one beer here in Sweden and drive and you will get a bill, and probably loose you're license, why, because one beer can affect you.

 

*Applauds

My dad was a law enforcement officer, and the stories he would tell of people drinking, no matter how little, is enought to make me never do that. 


18:06:04 Aug 28th 06 - Sir Efrandor:

*Blushes*


19:09:23 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

Hahaha, OMG the dramedy behind your story arien is well beyond belief.


19:21:44 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

So you 2 are saying that after going to your buddies house after dinner, and you have a beer you and your family sleep the night, and wait out that one beer?

Only way you feel 1 beer is if you slam it then jump in your car, but then thats a bit different, and would pretty much have to be behind the wheel while slamming it to feel any effect.


22:54:14 Aug 28th 06 - Admiral Krum:

Larry, I don't think you realize the tolerance of alcohol in some people. My ex gf could get thrashed on 1 beer....yeah she was a cheap date. Then again I have a friend who can drink 12 strong beers without so much as a burp.

Everyone is different, thats why we have the 0 tolerance laws.


23:03:22 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Dark Mielo:

(Efrandor: "I'm almost 2 metres and I can drink a beer(3.5%) and feel it,")

Huh is the percent in your countries beer so low? Here in belgium it's like 5.4% alcohol for a normal beer... How can you get drunk of that percent? (I'm not laughing with you or anything.. Just curious)


23:19:09 Aug 28th 06 - Mr. Larry Flynt:

I understand tolerance, but 1 beer isnt going to get someone so out of whack that they cant drive 15-20 mins after.

Now slamming a beer and getting into the car is a bit different, as that will casue you some issues (depending on tolerance).

Here we have a legal limit, so you can drive and be pulled over, and let go with 1 beer. Once again tolerance plays a part.

Besides I live in america, we have weak ass beer here anyway. Kinda like comparing apples to oranges(to quote highway).


23:45:57 Aug 28th 06 - Duchess Bonnie Davina:

Admiral Krum


8/28/2006 10:54:14 PM
Larry, I don't think you realize the tolerance of alcohol in some people. My ex gf could get thrashed on 1 beer....yeah she was a cheap date. Then again I have a friend who can drink 12 strong beers without so much as a burp.

Everyone is different, thats why we have the 0 tolerance laws.

 

@Krum-WORD


00:10:04 Aug 29th 06 - Sir Efrandor:

"(Efrandor: "I'm almost 2 metres and I can drink a beer(3.5%) and feel it,")

Huh is the percent in your countries beer so low? Here in belgium it's like 5.4% alcohol for a normal beer... How can you get drunk of that percent? (I'm not laughing with you or anything.. Just curious)"

 

I'm 18, so I'm not allowed to buy stronger drinks, don't know about the laws in other contries, are you not 20 here you can't by liquour and beer.

3.5% is the strongest you can buy, it's called peoples-beer to translate it right away:P

But we do have beer with 18% (At least that is the strongest I have seen..)


(Edited by Sir Efrandor 8/29/2006 12:11:09 AM)


00:15:08 Aug 29th 06 - Mr. Dark Mielo:

I'm 17 (coming 18 in september ^^) and i can buy 5.4% beer...

:( What a bummer for you ... I went to Lithuania and they didn't gave me beer because I wasn't 18 ... That stinked


00:50:34 Aug 29th 06 - Sir Efrandor:

Well, like I said higher up in the thread, I get easily drunk, a 6-pack of those beers and I'm feeling just fine;)


01:15:40 Aug 29th 06 - Mr. Huo Yuanjia:

lmao ive been reading all this and i like how its gone from dogs being stoned to a political deveate....

But i have to say i agree exactly with Mr. Larry Flynt...

In Biology i was asked to do in depth research on to the stuff and come up with an essay... here it is if anyone is up for a weed ;) i mean read :) lol i "crack" myself up sum time :D not that i do crack im completly against that so dont get me wrong :) anyway here we go


 


01:16:48 Aug 29th 06 - Mr. Huo Yuanjia:

Should Cannabis Be Legalised for Medicinal Purposes In The United Kingdom?

 

Ganja, marijuana, weed, puff, smoke, pot, herb, dope, resin, grass, there are hundreds of names to describe it. These are the many words used in reference to Cannabis

Cannabis is the most commonly used illegal drug in the UK with an estimate of around 1 million current users and 10 million people thought to have tried the drug in some time in there life. Nearly half of all 16-29 year olds have tried cannabis some time in their life, and a further half of them have used it within the last year. So with such a high number of users in this country, I ask my self, why has it become so popular?

The Effects of Cannabis

 The desired effects experienced by users are talkativeness, cheerfulness, relaxation and greater appreciation of sound and colour. Cannabis users often describe the experience of smoking cannabis as initially relaxing and mellow, creating a feeling of haziness and light-headedness. This is known as being 'high' or 'stoned'.

Physical Effects of Cannabis

When smoked, cannabis is inhaled into the lungs, where the Alveoli filter gasses from the smoke, the main being delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol better known as THC. THC is the main psychoactive ingredient. The gasses filter into the blood stream introducing the THC into the body. The following is a list of the main areas of the body affected by cannabis and what causes it.

The Skin:- Even though cannabis isnt an aphrodisiac, many users claim a heightened sensitivity and increased sex drive.

The Stomach:- Users feel an increase in appetite. This is referred to as the Munchies in common slang. Molecules called endocannabinoids bind onto certain receptors in the brain, making the user fell hungry.

The Heart:- Cannabis causes an increase in the cardiovascular action of the heart. Blood pressure is altered and the pulse rate quickens.

The Mouth:-  The air passage leading to the lungs expands and the mouth stops secreting saliva, leaving a dry mouth. This is commonly known as Dry mouth

The Ears:- Sounds often become distorted or hearing heightened.

The Eyes:- Pressure inside the eye decreases, causing the eyes to redden, and eyelids to become puffy. This is commonly known as Red Eye

The Brain:- Chemicals called cannabinoids block certain electrical signals inside the brain, interfering with short-term memory and co-ordination. Often upsetting memory and Balance.

The Effects of cannabis generally lasts up to 4 hours depending on the amount used, then the body returns to normal afterwards. There is no other side affects afterwards unless the user takes it to an excess on a regular basis.

Legislative Status of Cannabis

            Cannabis was first made illegal in 1928, after it was linked to 'harder' drugs like heroin and opium. Up until the declassification in 2004 cannabis was classed as a class B drug, but this was changed to a class C when the law was relaxed a bit. But even though it is only a class C drug, it is still illegal. But if you are found in possession of cannabis, the majority of the time it is just confiscated and let off with a caution. You could be imprisoned for 2 years for possession of cannabis, but most of the time you would only be arrested if you were thought to have intent to supply the drug, in this case you can get a maximum of 15 years imprisonment.

           

I will now discuss the pros and the cons of cannabis, linking them to why cannabis should or shouldnt be legalised in the UK.

 

Supporting Cannabis to be legalised

 

  • Cannabis is less addictive than amphetamines, tobacco or alcohol, and does less harm to the body.
  • A government report found that high use of cannabis isn't associated with major health or sociological problems, unlike other harder drugs.
  • Cannabis has an effect on the heart, similar to the effects of exercise. It may be just as good for the heart as going to the gym.
  • Its effects are beneficial to sufferers of various medical conditions, including cancer, HIV, multiple sclerosis, and glaucoma and Arthritis.

 

Against the legalisation of Cannabis

 

  • It may be psychologically addictive. Heavy users can display aggressive impulses if their supply suddenly stops, a side effect similar to that of anabolic steroids.
  • Cannabis may be a 'gateway' drug to more harmful substances like heroin and cocaine.
  • It can disrupt the control of blood pressure increasing the risk of fainting. Even occasional use is bad for people with heart and circulation disorders, and for those predisposed to schizophrenia.
  • It has a higher tar content than tobacco, so smoking cannabis presents the same health problems: bronchitis, emphysema and lung cancer.

 

The main argument for the legalisation of Cannabis has to be its effectiveness when used for medicinal purposes. Cannabis has been used for medicinal purposes for thousands of years, it dates back as far as 2800 BC in Chinese cultures, but is believed to be used even further back than that.

 

The following is a table showing the kind of illnesses where people often use cannabis to help their symptoms.

 

This table shows a number of random people who smoke cannabis for medicinal purposes and the illness that it is helping. This survey was carried out in California where cannabis has been made legal for medicinal purposes only. Only through a physician can cannabis be given prescribed legally.

 

The main debate though on legalising cannabis for medicinal purposes is over the value of its medicinal properties relative to the risk posed by its use. The standards our healthcare lives up to in todays generation is very high, people expect all forms of healthcare from prescribed medicines to over the counter medicines to be 100% safe, reliable and at a proven efficiency. For this reason, it is being debated a great deal whether or not cannabis should be legalised for medicinal purposes because of some of its negative properties mentioned before.

            But in my opinion I think that the Pros out weight the cons of using cannabis for medicinal purposes. There is no risk of Overdosing on Cannabis and smoking it doesnt cause any real physical or psychological dependence on the drug. There is a slight possibility of minor withdrawal symptoms if it is smoked to excess on a regular basis, but they are very minor, nothing to serious to cause any serious harm. With all that in consideration, cannabis is a very effective method of relieving symptoms to a patient suffering long-term illnesses.

 

References

 

 

http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/marimed/index.html

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopics/cannabis/index.shtml#keypoints

 

http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/marimed/ch1_t3.html

 

Understanding Drugs 2nd Edition, Cannabis fact file.  Daniels Publishing


01:17:21 Aug 29th 06 - Mr. Twamao:

what happened to the so called "moral" inspectors?

when porn is posted, they get upbeat coz, they said that children are playing the game and can see those things. i must ask, what about the drugs and beers discussed in this thread, i think its causes more harm than watching porn. 

So for the Kids out there, i would like to give you an overview of what you will get from drugs and alcohol and also cigarettes

Drugs:
Marijuana can cause permanent cerebral damage.  Studies have shown that illicit drugs (marijuana, cocaine, heroin, DMDA etc) can cause early onset alzheimer's disease and other neurologic diseases like parkinson's.  it causes disturbances in the equilibrium of our neurotransmitters. SO DONT TAKE DRUGS EVER!!  you may like the effect now, but think of your future.

Cigarettes
They are also bad for you. It contains nicotine. which has some effects (like hypertension) on our Peripheral Nervous system. Studies have shown that smoking more than 9 sticks per day increases the chance for cardiovascular and cerebrovascular damage. like stroke, myocardial infarction, deep vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism, etc.  you will say then i can take less than 9 sticks per day, so the risk wont increase.  BUT, smoking per se, can increase the chance of having Lung diseases like Lung CA, chronic bronchitis, emphysema etc, and it doesnt depend on the amount of cigarette you smoke.  Believe me, if you see people with those disease you would swear not to smoke anymore.  Plus, if you have a family history of CA (cancer), especially Lung CA, you already have an increase chance of having it.  so if you have relatives who have it, think it over before lighting that cigarette.  If you have respiratory diseases like asthma, it is synergistic, meaning, the damage to your lungs is exponential. 

Alcohol
It contains ethanol, which can cause damage to your liver.  Chronic alcohol intake causes cirrhosis and Liver CA.  it also increases your chance of having Hepatitis.  Alcohol tolerance is dictated by alcohol dehydrogenase, an enzyme found in our body.  Some race has few of it like the yellow race (chinese).  so if you have few of it you have decrease tolerance of alcohol and thus increase blood levels of alcohol (not sure though, if its the other way around).  Increase levels of ethanol have various effects:

60-80 mg/dl - impaired driving
120-140 mg/dl - gross drunkenness, disinhibition
300 mg/dl - coma, over sedation and other neurologic effects
>500 mg/dl - lethal

there's no way to predict your blood levels except by drawing blood from you and sending it to a lab, and you cant do that everytime you drink.
plus if the drink you are taking has other alcohol, like methanol it can cause other problems. methanol can cause permanent blindness. 

SO DONT TAKE ALCOHOL, IF YOU MUST, DRINK MODERATELY.


i hope my message is clear, if you have questions, just ask :)

(Edited by Mr. Twamao 8/29/2006 1:19:34 AM)


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