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Fant HoH Prod, army info, etc
14:21:09 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Yarlin:

Off to work in a few so I'm posting early since I won't be around again till well after the era has ended.

Decided to get farming 5 and lumber 3 just for kicks this tick ut the rest was had for awhile now. (Had farming 4)

The current game (era) will last for 0.2 more day(s) (5h).

Production & Resources

Name Prod. Pop. Empl. Morale Tax Gold Food Stone Tree Land Growth Defence Spells
Dark Skies 100% 100% 95% 100% +102,400 +601,642 -32,000 +429,744 +0 25,600 0 20,464 men & 1260 wall
Cloudy Skies 100% 100% 95% 100% +57,600 +338,659 -18,000 +241,899 +0 14,400 0 11,519 men & 945 wall
Sir Com 100% 100% 100% 100% +125,000 +735,000 -37,500 +525,000 +0 31,001 0 25,000 men & 100 wall
Wolf 100% 100% 69% 100% +260,000 +0 +764,250 +0 +0 67,000 0 One man & 368 wall
Fond Memory 100% 100% 100% 100% +200,000 +1,176,000 -60,000 +840,000 +0 49,600 0 40,000 men & 1754 wall
Clear Skies 100% 100% 95% 100% +102,400 +602,083 -32,000 +430,059 +0 25,600 0 20,479 men & 1260 wall
Mostly Cloudy 100% 100% 95% 100% +102,400 +602,083 -32,000 +430,059 +0 25,600 0 20,479 men & 1260 wall
Partly Cloudy S 100% 100% 100% 100% +106,665 +0 +261,313 +0 +0 25,600 0 Nothing & 1135 wall
Misty Graveyard 100% 0% 100% 100% +1,371 +0 -343 +0 +0 54,962 +1,425 2 armies & 1784 wall
Haunted Mines 100% 88% 75% 100% +250,005 +1,470,000 -95,603 +1,050,000 +0 67,421 +3,537 50,000 men & 2045 wall
Memories Define 100% 100% 100% 100% +197,020 +1,176,000 -60,000 +840,000 +0 49,600 0 42,980 men & 1754 wall
Identity Crisis 100% 88% 75% 100% +250,005 +1,470,000 -96,167 +1,050,000 +0 67,421 +3,550 50,000 men & 2045 wall
Final Dream 100% 100% 100% 100% +362,900 +2,124,402 -108,875 +1,514,730 +0 90,000 0 71,680 men + one army & 2362 wall
Pit of Death 100% 100% 100% 100% +29,900 +113,419 -7,500 +63,010 +0 7,202 0 100 men & 680 wall
Woodishly Woodi 100% 100% 60% 100% +15,005 +0 -6,250 +0 +19,500 4,001 0 100 men
Transplants 100% 100% 0% 90% +0 +0 +0 +0 +0 2,000 0 Nothing & 413 wall
Total: +12,571,959 +439,325 +7,414,501 +19,500 607,008
Army Upkeep: -14,185,098
Building Upkeep: -462,529
Total Income: -2,075,668

Forsaken Dream

Choose army Commander Morale Exp. Located Upkeep
Sir Yarlin 100% 0 on mission   4728771
 
Swordsmen
Ready: 145959
Injured: 0
Hammerthrowers
Ready: 181055
Injured: 0
Axemen
Ready: 333714
Injured: 0
Runemasters
Ready: 419335
Injured: 0
Cavemasters
Ready: 84544
Injured: 0

 

 

 

 

 

Twisted Reality

Choose army Commander Morale Exp. Located Upkeep
Sir Yarlin 100% 0 on mission   4728491

Swordsmen
Ready: 145960
Injured: 0
Hammerthrowers
Ready: 181055
Injured: 0
Axemen
Ready: 333713
Injured: 0
Runemasters
Ready: 419267
Injured: 0
Cavemasters
Ready: 84543
Injured: 0

 

 

 

 

 

Living Nightmare

Choose army Commander Morale Exp. Located Upkeep
Sir Yarlin 100% 0 on mission   4727837

Swordsmen
Ready: 145959
Injured: 0
Hammerthrowers
Ready: 181054
Injured: 0
Axemen
Ready: 333714
Injured: 0
Runemasters
Ready: 419106
Injured: 0
Cavemasters
Ready: 84544
Injured: 0

 

 

 

 

Army name Size Location Orders
Living Nightmare Horde Near Misty Graveyard Awaiting orders
Forsaken Dream Horde Near Misty Graveyard Awaiting orders
Twisted Reality Horde Near Misty Graveyard

Awaiting orders


14:30:56 Mar 21st 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

12mil with lvl 11 mining? i dont know how you held first with such a small dwarven income


14:35:13 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Yarlin:

One word, Efficiency


14:45:34 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Revenge:

Why are all the armies the same Lol ?


14:46:48 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Yarlin:

Because i pooled them all to the same place to get the top 3 HoH armies. duh


14:49:06 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Revenge:

Well Duh!

*Revenge goes and studies ....


15:26:46 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Yarlin:

Someone is sure to ask so here it is.

Axemen Cost = 4249 gold

Was 3900 before I took a few worthless cities and built 20k MTs for EitS and Freeze on the intruders. Thats a big drop in output when your income stays the same. =P (Efficiency droped)


16:03:06 Mar 21st 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

doesnt look very efficiant to me. why the hell do you have farms as a dwarf?


16:15:57 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Yarlin:

I'll explain the answer to that after work Osiris.


17:08:40 Mar 21st 08 - Prince Mielo:

*yarlin pondering for an answer to give to Osiris while he's at "work"*


17:20:04 Mar 21st 08 - Lord Protector Nimic:

Psh. My axemen = 4503 gold


17:23:49 Mar 21st 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

Dwarves should have no farms and raze any they take O.o you need to minimise land and maximise cavers so those farms should be mines packed with cavers.


17:25:05 Mar 21st 08 - Prince Mielo:

omg, it was my first era as dwarf and I knew that :o


17:45:32 Mar 21st 08 - Mr. Hanky Panky:

it worked didnt it ?

i admit the food is a bit high tho lol


18:20:40 Mar 21st 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

worked no.. because if he did it right he would have been far infront


19:13:37 Mar 21st 08 - Mr. Brannigans Law:

lol he said efficency? someone work out his efficency and post it!


19:14:35 Mar 21st 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

none. clearly his armies suck, he didnt pump to try to stay first and his build set up sucks :P its amazing he even got to first


19:14:38 Mar 21st 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

none. clearly his armies suck, he didnt pump to try to stay first and his build set up sucks :P its amazing he even got to first


19:20:36 Mar 21st 08 - Mr. Vexsloth:

This is not efficient :)

And with L3 magic, good thing you never attacked!


19:21:44 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Revenge:

Sloth knows if your efficiant!
He knows all!

 


19:23:19 Mar 21st 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

he knows all i know more ;)


19:24:15 Mar 21st 08 - Mr. Roxbury:

devi tried to post his prod page, and it crashed the window =P


19:29:29 Mar 21st 08 - Ms. Geneva:

Too bad those armies never saw battle.


19:34:19 Mar 21st 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

yeah they suck :D Yarlin you should have like 15mil income and if you had pumped for score you would have won.


19:42:29 Mar 21st 08 - Mr. Seth:

lol i havent seen such a rainbow sci in a while..especially for a dwarf:))


19:43:57 Mar 21st 08 - Dark Lord Osiris:

he should have gone higher in magic thats for sure


20:15:13 Mar 21st 08 - Mr. Brannigans Law:

why? he had no intention to put his troops in danger, so he might as well have had 0 magic... except for stg i guess...


20:29:07 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Revenge:

xD

Nice one Bran  xD


21:33:39 Mar 21st 08 - Mr. White Widow:

Im gonna post mine in a different thread, I need some room to stretch out.


21:45:30 Mar 21st 08 - Sir Revenge:

Dam...

Widow wins   :D


01:02:33 Mar 22nd 08 - Sir Yarlin:

Ok first things first, the question why i had farms instead of buying food.

#1 Reason - When you wake up a few days in a row and there is ZERO food for sale and have to go to work, that sucks.

#2 - with farming science it really wasn't that great of a loss as you think for what food prices were at when i was buying vs having farming science and farms. lets say 500k income lost per tick from having farms instead of mines BUT selling 350k food a tick at 1.5 yet not having to buy the 600k+ food a tick to feed myself.

My setup? Whats wrong with Mines built to caver ratios? The only 2 Mines that were not fully to ratio were my Feeders and they had 17420 homes (caver ratio) and 50k Mines with 50k cavers. The last 3 cities on that list were the ones i took from someone that spawned by us and i never touched them other then building 2k GT's to get LoS on the south edge of the map.

If your talking city placement, well someone took the 3 other key spots i picked out to have the ability to pump enough "score" troops so i made due with what i had.

Yes i do realize i should have farmed a few more mill before starting to pump troops but it's a bit late for that now isn't it?

Sciences... some of you call them a rainbow but i had 11 mining and 0 to the rest (was going to get mining 12 then Med but got forced to do others) for the reason already stated. i never planed to fight, it just happened. When Cobra showed up with his #1 HoH army the same day i started pumping i had to get a few sciences quick so i took only my nightly income and got Military 7, magic 3 then med 5 all at the same time. Magic only so i could do my own EitS and freezes. Glad i did since a few guys from DB got brave and had to fight them off to.

Efficiency - it was at 24.45 before i took any cities or built them MT's (food was selling at 1.5) and dropped to 21.35 after the taken cities. (food was selling at 1.0-0.9) Anyone that knows what those numbers mean knows it was actually pretty good. Yes it could have been better if i destroyed some farms to keep it close to no food lost or gained and burned those 3 cities instead of taking them but that's not what happened.

 

Just so everyone knows, i didn't start the era planning to go for era win. i started out testing an econ build with plans to play core defense because of my activity. 2 ticks 2 times a day at most wasn't good enough to me for an attacker.


04:19:15 Mar 23rd 08 - Mr. Hanky Panky:

hehehe


17:37:07 Mar 23rd 08 - Mr. Digger:

Agree on the farms. Building one 90k for food is more safe than relying on the market, and not too costly.


18:21:45 Mar 23rd 08 - Sir Shyers From The Black Laggon:

wow, crazy, i had some 500k axer armies last era and they were not even HoH.


17:46:48 Mar 25th 08 - Mr. Ransom:

how can you work out those efficiency numbers?


00:03:15 Mar 28th 08 - Lord Abydonian Napbreaking Scum:

Rofl. Rough income divided by land? Useless indicator if you ask me :P


15:44:52 Mar 28th 08 - Mr. Clamps The Redeemed:

That would be a pretty elementary way of doing it.


20:37:04 Mar 28th 08 - Mr. Threadlord:

yeah you should put the logarithm agains the square root of the buildings without the houses

elementary? wtf do you expect him to do lol


04:20:17 Mar 29th 08 - Mr. Clamps The Redeemed:

There are ways to use the info; it's quite useful, you just have to know what to do with it is all.


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