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12:40:21 Jun 18th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

PS4 and Xbox One are the confirmed next-gen consoles, the Xbox One priced at 500$ and the PS4 priced at 400$.


Which of this consoles you think will own the gaming industry this next year?

Do you think the Exclusive tittles will be a decisive battle between the PS4 and the Xbox One?




The Xbox One:


Xbox One Tech Specs:

FeatureXbox One
Optical DriveBlu-Ray/DVD 
Game DVRYes 
RAM8GB DDR3 
CPU8 Core Microsoft custom CPU 
Storage500 GB Hard Drive 
Second ScreenSmartGlass 
Cloud StorageYes 
Mandatory Game InstallsYes 
Required Internet ConnectionYes 
Used Game FeeNo 
Backwards CompatibilityNone 
Cross Game ChatSkype 
Motion ControlKinect 2
Voice CommandsYes 
Subscription ServiceXbox Live 
USBUSB 3.0 
Live StreamingYes
Reputation PreservationAchievements will be ported 
Web ConnectionGigabit Ethernet, WiFi 
BlueToothBluetooth 2.1 (EDR) 
A/V HookupsHDMI input and output (4K support), Optical output 




The PS4:


PS4 Tech Specs:

Main processor
  • Single-chip custom processor
  • CPU: low power x86-64 AMD "Jaguar", 8 cores
  • GPU: 1.84 TFLOPS, AMD next-generation Radeon™ based graphics engine
Memory

GDDR5 8GB

Storage size

500GB Hard disk drive.

BD/DVD Drive (Read Only)
  • BD x 6 CAV
  • DVD x 8 CAV
Input / Output
  • Super-Speed USBx (USB 3.0) port x 2
  • AUX port x 1
Networking
  • Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 1
  • IEEE 802.11 b/g/n
  • Bluetooth® 2.1 (EDR)
AV Output
  • HDMI out port
  • DIGITAL OUTPUT (OPTICAL) port


13:43:00 Jun 18th 13 - Bran (Duke Bran):

PS4... as I beleive xbox one is going to be incredibly intrusive with them forcing you to sign into online gaming, and to have your kinect turned on etc. also ive heard they are trying to stop you selling on your used games


14:10:55 Jun 18th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

Xbox One, will need you to connect once every 24 hrs to play either online or offline games, if if doesn't connect you can still watch movies and watch your TV.


You don't sell your Xbox One games, you ''share'' them with someone who has been on your friend list for at least 30 days.

But now PS4 is gonna implement the need of an online subscription ''PS+'' for you to be able to play online your games.

The previous Sony console owners would change ships now that Sony charges for online play ?


14:47:01 Jun 18th 13 - Bran (Duke Bran):

ill probably just buy neither and stick with what ive got.(360). or use my laptop for games. just because a new console is out doesnt mean i have to have one


16:53:54 Jun 18th 13 - Stormy (Lord Stormcrow):

its a bit more complicated than that when it comes to the xbox one. Seems to me they are intent on self-inflicting wounds...

doesnt matter. Imma stick with sony; my crapbox rrod 3 times on me....my fatboy is still going strong after 5 years;P

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/jun/18/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-at-a-glance


17:30:16 Jun 18th 13 - Elite (Mr. Elite III):

Im not buying either, after PS2 I decided never again and just used my computer for gaming. With that kind of money you can easily assemble your own computer to play all of the new games on max settings (and you dont have to buy them without a test drive).


17:58:17 Jun 18th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

Pretty much every poll I've seen has people voting 85-90% in favour of PS4 over Xbox. And I've seen about 7-8 polls.


The only reason you would buy a Xbox over the PS4 now is if you're a fanboy or your parents buy it for you. There's no other valid reason for buying it. PS4 costs much less, has better graphics, more exclusives, doesn't require you to login every 24 hours to play online, doesn't require kinect [which can spy on you], allows you to share/sell games as you wish.

Basically, Xbox have fucked up big time and fucked over their consumers. I'm switching from Xbox to PS4 for the next gen.


17:59:15 Jun 18th 13 - Zond (General Hugh Gee Rekshun):

I like how you post a lot for Xbox... then cut the PS4 short on everything it has to offer. 


18:37:18 Jun 18th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:


18:42:21 Jun 18th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

In Twitter, Microsoft got asked:


''Hey, So I can't play my games offline if I don't have internet, are there any chances you will release an offline version of the xbox one?''

Microsoft:

''We have an offline version of Xbox One already is called Xbox''.



Self-Explanatory I hope.


18:46:15 Jun 18th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Xbox-One-Internet-Connection-Always-On-Required-xbox-360,23061.html




Since confirming that the Xbox One would need to 'check in' with Microsoft via the web, Microsoft has faced an awful lot of criticism from gamers. While it would be incorrect to say the console requires an always-on connection to the internet, you do need an internet connection to play games on the Xbox One. Responding to a question about gamers without internet access, Microsoft's Don Mattrick had a rather disappointing answer.


Speaking during an interview at E3, Don Mattrick told GameTrailers that users without an internet connection can always just stick with the Xbox 360. Really.

"Fortunately, we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity and it's called Xbox 360," he told Game Trailer's Geoff Keighley. When Keighley asks if that's Microsoft's message, Mattrick reiterates his point.

"Right, so stick with 360, that's your message if you don't like it?" Keighley asks. Mattrick responds: "If you have zero access to the internet, that is an offline device."

We're not sure this will help Microsoft's (or the Xbox One's) cause.


19:17:38 Jun 18th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

Now, since both next-gen consoles require a ''membership'' to play your games online, this is a comparison between both subscriptions and what they've got to offer.


Microsoft's Xbox:  Xbox Live Gold

  • 60$ a Year.
  • Multiplayer Gaming
  • Early Access to Some Demos
  • Beta Access
  • Game Discounts (40-50% off, often)
  • Hulu Plus
  • Netflix
  • Amazon Instant Video
  • Party Chat
  • Video Kinect
  • Zune Music Streaming
  • Halo Waypoint
  • Avatar Kinect
  • Internet Explorer
  • Cloud Storage
  • Facebook
  • Skype
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • last.fm
  • MLB.tv
  • HBO Go
  • ESPN
  • Forthcoming: Free-to-Play Gaming
Note: 
  • Netflix, Hulu, and HBO GO, etc... require their own separate subscriptions, so basically you end up paying double.
  • YouTube and Twitter are free in mostly every device.


Sony's PlayStation:  PS+

  • 50$ a Year.
  • Online-Multiplayer access (PS4)
  • Instant Game Collection (Free Instant Games)
  • Game Discounts (40-50% off, often)
  • Early Access to Some Demos
  • Beta Access
  • Cloud Storage
  • Automatic Patching/Firmware-Updates
  • 1-Hour Free Access to Full Games

Yes, Sony's subscription PS+ list is shorter than Microsoft's Gold subscription but if you carefully analyze, in PS+ you rent games from the 'Instant Game Collection'  and games they add each month, meaning that as long as you are part of PS+ you will have access to this games but if you cancel your subscription said games will no longer be available for you to play. Thought for those who prefer digital than disc-on games may and will enjoy Sony's discounted prices.

In Xbox you basically pay for things that could easily be done on your laptop or pc by connecting the HDMI or VGA if you have said feature on your laptop/pc. Also, this days we have the 'Smart-TVs' which have Netflix etc...

My personal opinion is that Xbox is more community related(skyping with friends, texting with friends and such...) rather than for gaming, while Sony focuses more on the gaming side.


19:19:53 Jun 18th 13 - Bran (Duke Bran):

Microsoft:

''We have an offline version of Xbox One already is called Xbox''.

are MS always so fucking rude. I might skip the 360 and just stick to my old nintendo...


21:02:10 Jun 18th 13 - Ms. Tuffy:

Also I don't know if it was mentioned but The new Metal Gear solid will be on both Platforms PS4 and Xbox one.. Xbox one screwed up big time.


22:03:58 Jun 18th 13 - Djinn Bartimaeus (Mr. Bartimaeus The Krazed):

Also with Xbox One's used game issue. I just want to clarify. The used game industry is huge and Microsoft didn't have any rights to it at all. You bought the game and once it was bought that's all the money they made. Once you sold it to a GameStop they determine a price worthy of re-selling it for and what you should get back. Again MS has no say and no profit. MS saw how much they were losing on the used game market and said we want it basically and whats gonna happen is once you buy a NEW Xbox one game it will have a serial number embedded on it, so once you put it in your new Xbox it will burn onto your hard drive. Meaning you won't be able to let your friends borrow your game yes and its part of why you must stay online as well. Anyways whenever you decide "Hey i don't want this game" and you take it to that GameStop. GameStop no longer has a say on what that game is gonna be resold for. MS came out saying all used games will be sold at 90% of original value and once you trade your game in. That game will go through a new software MS will be putting on all Trade in businesses to where once you trade in your game (and due to you always having to be connected) MS goes on to your account and wipes the serial number off. Therefore ceasing you being able to play that game again.

Yes it sucks which is why I am personally going back to Sony, but at the same time look at it from a business stand point and it was a good move because they were losing a lot of potential money, so at the end of the day Trade in businesses are the ones getting hit.


22:12:06 Jun 18th 13 - Zond (General Hugh Gee Rekshun):

All about money, reason i wont be buying Xbox One. Nor will many many people i know that have been Xbox fans for a long time


22:21:13 Jun 18th 13 - Stormy (Lord Stormcrow):

and in all honesty, after watching this years E3, seems Sony has a lot more exciting games, at least for meh:P


22:31:23 Jun 18th 13 - Electric (Electric Galactic Avenger):

Sony has better games... as far as I can tell.. its great MS has Tanks... that's great........

 

 


23:29:00 Jun 18th 13 - Bran (Duke Bran):

Yes it sucks which is why I am personally going back to Sony, but at the same time look at it from a business stand point and it was a good move because they were losing a lot of potential money

Id say that doesnt justify their decision to try and steal the used games market. Theyre going to lose out on a lot of loyal customers, which is alot more valuable imo. i bet it proves to be poor business in the long run


23:46:23 Jun 18th 13 - Venomz (Mr. Binh The Phony Pony):

Not sure what great games PS4 has really. Their presentation at the E3 was shit.


00:19:24 Jun 19th 13 - Djinn Bartimaeus (Mr. Bartimaeus The Krazed):

14:29:00 Jun 18th 13 - Bran (Duke Bran):

Yes it sucks which is why I am personally going back to Sony, but at the same time look at it from a business stand point and it was a good move because they were losing a lot of potential money

Id say that doesnt justify their decision to try and steal the used games market. Theyre going to lose out on a lot of loyal customers, which is alot more valuable imo. i bet it proves to be poor business in the long run



I agree that they will lose a lot of customers, but at the same time a lot more people i can almost guarantee will so fuk it idc I'm still gonna trade in my game. It doesn't affect them getting rid of their game does it? No it affects GameStops profits. People in this society still do stupid bs things on a daily and why convenience a lot of the time and because if it doesn't affect them directly than why gaf. Especially someone like MS?! They have enough customers and enough profit margin to make that good business. In reality the amount of customers they will lose in comparison to they money they will make just off a few trade ins will if anything balance out.


12:43:30 Jun 19th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

13:46:23 Jun 18th 13 - Venomz (Mr. Binh The Phony Pony):

Not sure what great games PS4 has really. Their presentation at the E3 was shit.



I think Killzone Shadow Fall, Infamous 2nd Sons, Knack,The Order 1886, Mad Max, Drive Club, will be the first of Sony's supposed ''more than 40 to arrive''.

Destiny at first in the PS4 Meeting was supposed to be PS Only, but they decided they could get more cash if they sold their game also in Xbox BUT will have more exclusive content ''supposedly'' on ps4.

The Last of Us, which in my opinion is an amazing game, rated 10/10 in many, many sites, is also 'believed' to come to ps4, the only bad thing about the game is that it does not have a free-roam system(sandbox) like GTA series etc.., but it doesn't stop it from being  a great game.



The Xbox One also had great exclusives, starting with Dead Rising 3 which imo is an amazing zombie game, literally hordes of zombies cornering you is just amazing. Also Ryse which imo is just like a God of War.


11:02:10 Jun 18th 13 - Ms. Tuffy:

Also I don't know if it was mentioned but The new Metal Gear solid will be on both Platforms PS4 and Xbox one.. Xbox one screwed up big time.


I'm not entirely sure about that, they said in the E3 that the new MGS(which was just simply awesome) would be an exclusive to the Xbox One.


Also I LOLed when MS said Xbox One will have World of Thanks and a new exclusive MineCraft.


Diablo 3 for PS3 anyone? :P


16:22:42 Jun 19th 13 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

Xbox One Games > PS4 Games


PS4 > Xbox One

think ill stick to my PC, i much prefer 64+ player multiplayer over 16 players


17:14:46 Jun 19th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

A Battlefield player Stirlin? I thought you were more of the RPG.




17:49:40 Jun 19th 13 - King BurningLegion (King Burninglegion The Skygod):

10:22:42 Jun 19th 13 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

Xbox One Games > PS4 Games


PS4 > Xbox One

think ill stick to my PC, i much prefer 64+ player multiplayer over 16 players




I guess you havnt played Defiance....10K + MMO




Ill be switching from Xbox 360 to PS4, Sony knows what players want


18:13:18 Jun 19th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

BF4 will have 64 players on consoles too Danwell iirc


18:27:12 Jun 19th 13 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

16:14:46 Jun 19th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

A Battlefield player Stirlin? I thought you were more of the RPG.



i play planetside 2 2000 players

and arma with 250 players


18:33:35 Jun 19th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

BF4 has confirmed already that it will have 64 Players on the consoles with the return of commander mode.


18:43:18 Jun 19th 13 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

when you've played in a war zone consisting of hundreds of players supported by air and vehicles, in a 3 way battle 64 players sounds boring


nothing beats Planetside 2 Friday Night Ops


18:58:14 Jun 19th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

The point is Danwell, you said:

Dark Prince Stirlin


Report


15:22:42 Jun 19th 13
Xbox One Games > PS4 Games

PS4 > Xbox One

think ill stick to my PC, i much prefer 64+ player multiplayer over 16 players

When it doesn't matter. BF3 on consoles was never 16 players, it was 32. And now BF4 is 64 players MP on consoles too.

Stop moving the goalposts and bringing up other games pls.


19:13:53 Jun 19th 13 - Legend (I am The Forgotten Legend):

Score so far: Playstation 4 - Xbox One. 


Enough said.


21:56:51 Jun 19th 13 - Mr. Whatyouwantmate:

TBH, the only reason I even consider the XBox One is because of WoT being on it; that game may be a wallet sucker occasionally, but still the best tank game I've seen for multiplayer in a long while.


PS4 may be cheaper, but XBox's games outclass it; but if you're looking for price and console goodness,
PS4.


22:15:53 Jun 19th 13 - Electric (Ms. Pulp Ficture):

how do the games in xbox one outclass ps4's?


22:15:53 Jun 19th 13 - Electric (Ms. Pulp Ficture):

how do the games in xbox one outclass ps4's?


22:23:44 Jun 19th 13 - Stirlin (Dark Prince Stirlin):

Halo, Dead Rising, Forza, Minecraft, Project Spark, TitanFall


compared too....Killzone

PS4 has more exclusives but xbox have the much better lineup


02:19:29 Jun 20th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

Dark Prince Stirlin


Report


21:23:44 Jun 19th 13
Halo, Dead Rising, Forza, Minecraft, Project Spark, TitanFall

compared too....Killzone

PS4 has more exclusives but xbox have the much better lineup


I stopped at Halo.


LOL


07:14:54 Jun 20th 13 - Mr. Jack Frost:

Killzone is shit. I played killzone 2, and got sooo bored out of me mind(same with halo, but I do admit that halo is better). Then again, I don't really enjoy generic fps games.


But i'll be getting the PS4 for Daylight, Infamous Second Son, Knack, Octodad: Dadliest Catch, The Order: 1886,  Outlast,  Transistor, The Witness, and Deep Down(currently listed as exclusive, despite coming from capcom). (2 or 3 of these are ps4 console exclusives, not true exclusives)

And the non exclusives: Dragon Age 3, Metal Gear Solid 5, Witcher 3, watch dogs, thief, GTA 5, Saints Row 4, Need for Speed: Rivals, Mad Max, Kingdom Hearts 3, Final Fantasy 15, The Evil Within, Division, Destiny, and Assasins Creed 4.

I have also built up quite a trophy collection too. Currently lvl 16, with 16 platinum s :P. Were as I only have around 9000 gamerscore.


Edit: wtf? why did this post get all messed up?


08:57:07 Jun 20th 13 - Fordius (Mr. Corruptor):

Xbox one ( microsoft ) has confirmed to drop he drm function.


It will work the same way as the xbox 360 but still paying 100 euro's more than the ps4 what has better hardware ( more future proof ) is still ridicilious.
Besides xbox one might be even slower as there seems to be a bit of trouble with the esdram. 



11:06:36 Jun 20th 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

I read that stores like GameStop and such will need to register with Microsoft as authorized re-sellers or something like that, I didn't look much into it.


Jack Frost, If you saw The Division made by tom Clancy then you now its and online only open world game, and just because it is made by Tom Clancy it is already awesome.

The Graphics were a total Overkill.


16:20:52 Jun 20th 13 - Stormy (Lady Tassadar):

apparently MS had a "change of heart"....

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/19/microsoft-reversing-xbox-one-internet-used-game-policies


17:18:50 Jun 20th 13 - Mr. Orpheus:

Lol, they didn't have a change of heart. They knew that the xbox one might flop, and so they reversed their drm policy, so that they don't lose out on a lot of money. They made it clear that they don't care about the customers when they announced all that BS.


17:44:59 Jun 20th 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

^ Ye.

They haven't backtracked because of any good will or because they empathise with the community.

They're reversing a couple of decisions [not all, which still leaves them far behind PS4] because they've got slammed by the consumers. Most polls I saw had 85-90% votes in PS4s favour over Xbox. They know their pockets were [and probably still will] sting.


17:52:12 Jun 20th 13 - Konspyre (Mr. Slavik):

I thought of an incredible way to avoid having to choose between/complain about the PS4 and the XboxOne. :D
Not buying either one of them.
Ha.


17:59:27 Jun 20th 13 - Mr. Orpheus:

Wow what a revolutionary idea! thanks! :D


19:28:21 Jun 20th 13 - Electric (Ms. Pulp Ficture):

go oldschool and buy a snes?


05:54:03 Jun 21st 13 - Mr. Paper Thicc:

Ps3 would have owned xbox 360. There is one reason it did not. Online play on the Ps3 is nowhere near as easy as 360 is. The 360 had many flaws that made the Ps3 a better system. However it is the ease of use that brought many people to the 360.

The answer to this question. Which one will be more used and sought out? This lies solely with another question. Which one has better online capabilities?

Thats all i have to say about that.


07:51:07 Jun 21st 13 - Mr. Cheekz:

An Xbox is more likely to be used for actual gaming rather than a playstation which after a while just sits there and looks pretty. That's just my opinion though.

 

Xbox One all the way for me.


13:10:32 Jun 21st 13 - Zephyr (Marquess Esmeralda):

MS has demonstrated they don't give a flying one about the customers is all about the money.


I'm not saying one company is better than the other one, each have their own cons and pros. I am just saying which is most likely to succeed.


16:22:22 Jun 21st 13 - Mr. Cheekz:

Well Microsoft did listen to people's feedback and took off their restrictions, PS4 has it's restrictions too like with their online access you get less features than as if you would for Xbox plus you got to pay for PS+ now.

How about we all come to a truce between Sony and Microsoft, instead we should ask ourselves the true question.

Call of Duty Ghosts or Battlefield 4?!?! Battlefield 4!!

Microsoft and Sony should really look into having cross-console online multiplayer like for a game that's on both systems, be able to play against one another like all PS4 players on one team against all Xbox One players on another. I think that would be a cool idea.


17:21:52 Jun 21st 13 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

Cheekz, you're talking out your cheeks.

Microsoft didn't listen to the feedback because they have the consumers interests at heart. They did it because they knew they were going to be outsold heavily. Everybody was destroying Xbox after E3.

It's like me telling you that your mother is an ugly shit, then coming back a week later to apologise and expecting you to be my friend again. Fuck Xbox and their backtracking. From the DRM issues, to online access, to the mocking comments about using a Xbox360 instead. Fuck them. They haven't done it because they care about you and what you want, they've done it because they need to follow PS4s suit otherwise nobody will buy their console. If they cared about the consumer in the first place they would never have suggested them. It was all about greed.

PS4 doesnt have less online restrictions either. Playstation for sometime has given you free games each month with their membership. Xbox has only just introduced it to catch up with PS and even then the quality of the free games are far worse.

Xbox blows. Only kids continue supporting them.



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