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Updated VU
08:47:03 Oct 30th 18 - Cloutier (Master Cloutier):

So as all you old Vets may know me, and even some of the new ones. I am a game designer and in the last 8 years this game hasn't moved. Its way out dated and I offered to purchase this a long time ago but im sorry he wanted way too much. 

Im going to create a game similar to this but as a downloadable client using Unreal Engine. If anyone out there is skilled at it and know how to use it, or is very good at graphic work please send me a message. The game wont be called Visual Utopia unless Zeta gives me the okay. ( Already messaged him) 

Now any ideas you want to see please comment below. I will make a few changes but the basics will be the same


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Troop movement will be real time
Upgraded graphics
More units ( All Land for now)
Units will require Food/Water in the cities.
Trade Routes - ( Each City will have there own independent Resources)


Now if you have different ideas I can change them. 


10:02:23 Oct 30th 18 - Mr. Stardust Collector:

Please dont make mistakes like ZeTa, if you actually want to make an Update Version, this should includes:


A united Ally Forum for NAPed/ Allied kingdom which all ally kd's can see and post; but no publics can see. This is been using to all popular games.


Make NAPing, MAPing, CFing... official. for exmpl if 2 KDs make NAP, all kd members of those 2 kd's can see they're NAPed in KD Status. Although other kd's wont know due to privacy issues. And there will not be any option to attack each other members unless NAP is been canceled by the Leader himself.


All Ally KDs can see LoS of their Ally KDs just like a member of that KD.


Character Avatar/ Status page; In all Updated games there is always an option to click on the "Character Name" and see a detailed Status of that Player including his past States of War, Killing, Battle Wins, how many Era's that Player played, if he Won a Era, Medals for Winning an Era as a  Rank 1 or 2/... as whether Fearsome or Pwerful ,...


Each Kingdom must have a unipue  Banner as well including its Main KD Picture. This Banner may be added in the bottom side of the kd pic. This kingdom banner can be shown as a Flag, when the KD Leaders Army is moving (the flag can be over that army) to make it special.


Era win Rewards: This is a must Add, if your game is Updated. Top Ranked players Must get rewards like Medals which will be shown in his Char Status Page. For exmpl if a player won many Eras he might get a Veteran Medal/ Badge in his profile (Medals should be of 3d graphics).


Friend option: to be able to add friends n see online friends.


Ressourses transfer: Transfer Ress to kd members using carts which will move real time like a scout. Obvously therell be limit to send ress at once.

Enable using all Language Alphabets & Symbols including 2 words latters, Small Latter & Big Latter in Character name, Army names, Kingdom names. For exampl: "100000 B.C. FroM A.D." in a kd name.



P.S.: I'm a Vet & i've been playing games over 15 years including online games.

***I can give u more ideas later on, its just a quick suggestion.





10:23:58 Oct 30th 18 - Cloutier (Master Cloutier):

A lot of those ideas I have already planned on adding including the whole allies thing. Medals I didn't think of.



A little more on the way armies will work:

Each unit will have its own speed - but the army will move at the same speed as the slowest. Food/Water is required to keep the morale up at 100%. Each unit can carry a set amount each so this will make going very far distances very bad. You can bring wagons to carry more but it slows you down a lot. 

Base Creations

You can only build structures if you near that resource type. 


10:24:26 Oct 30th 18 - Mr. Johnny Rotten:

got a couple million to lose?


13:14:46 Oct 30th 18 - Cloutier (Master Cloutier):

What? What are you talking about?


13:24:32 Oct 30th 18 - Mr. Kinky Fecker:

To complete a game of the complexity of VU, ontop of a game engine that requires real time events, and still have it done this decade, would require 3 UX designers, and at least 2 backend developers.

Each of those is going to cost you roughly $100k a year. Average game takes 20 months to develop, unless you plan on your VU looking like flappy bird.


15:37:53 Oct 30th 18 - Mr. Stardust Collector:


Mr. Kinky Fecker:

To complete a game of the complexity of VU, ontop of a game engine that requires real time events, and still have it done this decade, would require 3 UX designers, and at least 2 backend developers.

Each of those is going to cost you roughly $100k a year. Average game takes 20 months to develop, unless you plan on your VU looking like flappy bird.

Actually he's pretty close from what i saw. And its Nowhere near vu caz its next generation graphics... the one take balls to make. flappy birds... lol


16:50:15 Oct 30th 18 - Cloutier (Master Cloutier):

Lol, let him think it will cost that much to make a game, guess he doesn't know that I know how to program. Should I post the link to some of my past project. lmao


17:54:36 Oct 30th 18 - Mr. Kinky Fecker:

Sure, post some links.


05:28:18 Oct 31st 18 - The Real Josh (Peasant Fiddler):

At first i was all excited about this, What your talking about is essentially the Turn Based Strategy side of the Total war series with VU mechanics and troops.


BUUUT, Then you went and said:




Cloutier:

Lol, let him think it will cost that much to make a game, guess he doesn't know that I know how to program. Should I post the link to some of my past project. lmao

I dont care how well you program, The fame your suggesting takes alot more then one "1337 hackrman"
It took 5 years for them to release Empire total war after rome total war, There are obvious changes but its all essentially the same game reskined, Now you say you can do it in half the time without the team of designers/programmers or Million dollar backing?

Implausible, But if you do I'd definitely buy a copy lol


21:29:25 Oct 31st 18 - Cloutier (Master Cloutier):

I never said I didn't have a graphic designer, but your right it may take longer I think. As bugs happen. Also whats up with you saying hacking? Im not using any of this code, wont have the same name nor the same graphics. Your army you see moving on the map will be a pawn that you can color and select based off your race. Cities will have more images based off how many buildings they have. and also what type of city it is. It will make it easier to tell what kind of city your about to attack. ;)

But if you guys/girls are free and want to help let me know. Im more then welcome to give those that help the game for free. It will be on steam store. Yes im already a partner with steam, but this will be between the prices of FREE to $10. 

BTW I know I said id give those a free game, and if its free what rewards you get? Well free in game currency to buy skins. THIS WILL NOT BE PAY TO WIN. I HATE THOSE GAMES!!!!


17:44:47 Nov 1st 18 - McMax (Battlemage Double Power):

I second your last sentence. I hate it too.

As I have writting a few times before, I did use quite some real money to get a decent position in Stronghold.

I used too much money to be honest.



Because what-ever I did use (and I had a limit), "some" used more.

Much more. Some even paid other players real money(!) for their support/protection and their votes for higher seats.


23:25:27 Nov 1st 18 - King Justanius Fontainius XLV:

Really good to read some of this stuff, wish you all the best and hopefully some success, this game hasn't changed enough in 15 years and has not adapted to peoples expectations. This is the only explanation for the massive drain to the player base. 


05:16:46 Nov 2nd 18 - Cloutier (Master Cloutier):

I feel this can be way better. Just wish he sold it awhile back


06:02:22 Nov 2nd 18 - Mr. Uwer:

I prefer buying a signature for a year of play.

With no pay to win stuff.


06:11:24 Nov 2nd 18 - Teirdel (Saint Talveron):

Still believe a heraldry creator would be a good idea.


00:11:52 Nov 3rd 18 - Cloutier (Master Cloutier):

Im really shocked that there are many players still playing this. lol


00:55:50 Nov 4th 18 - Mr. Bad Bell Mate:

i dont play fuck this gmae


15:17:00 Nov 5th 18 - King BurningLegion (Mr. Burninglegion):

Clout keep us updated on the progress!



16:20:05 Nov 5th 18 - Cloutier (Master Cloutier):

Will do. HAve another game going at the same time but Ill keep ya up to date


05:49:15 Jan 8th 19 - Random (Duke Random):

So you're trying to rip off VU.
Make a copy of the game and just add some graphics to it.
Which you can't do yourself
So you're posting in the ingame forums in the hopes of finding a graphic designer.
Who I assume you're not going to pay.
Otherwise you would've hired someone through a professional channel.

How much did you offer Zeta for his game?
For his intellectual property?
His years of hard work, time investment and vision?
I bet you low-balled the absolute shit out of him and he told you to jump.


You have no original idea.
You have no skills in the area that actually improves on what Zeta has created
All you're doing is taking someone elses' vision
Adding a few tweaks and hoping that an established fan base jumps ship.
Comes over to your ripoff game and gets suckered into your micro-transaction model.

I bet you think EA and Activision have good business models too and aspire to be them (:


What happened to world of whatever your other game was? fallen-sword ripoff/clone.


06:07:33 Jan 8th 19 - Captain of That One Mountain:


You can try and appeal to "feelings" as much as you want.

But at the end of the day, if its a better game, its a better game.


02:58:07 Jan 9th 19 - Random (Duke Random):

I'm not trying to appeal to "feelings".

It's not going to happen, and even if it does, it's going to be half-assed.


11:58:21 Jan 9th 19 - One Punch Man:


"How much did you offer Zeta for his game? 
For his intellectual property? 
His years of hard work, time investment and vision? "

"I'm not trying to appeal to "feelings". "

Ok sure buddy.


07:49:14 Feb 6th 19 - Night Talon Lord Ivanho (Mr. Snow Whites Secret Boyfriend):


 Cloutier  any Good news on your game? :)

Sorry gone inactive on discord. Did you find anyone to help you yet?





08:55:12 Feb 6th 19 - Night Talon Lord Ivanho (Mr. Snow Whites Secret Boyfriend):


Random:

So you're trying to rip off VU.
Make a copy of the game and just add some graphics to it.
Which you can't do yourself
So you're posting in the ingame forums in the hopes of finding a graphic designer.
Who I assume you're not going to pay.
Otherwise you would've hired someone through a professional channel.

How much did you offer Zeta for his game?
For his intellectual property?
His years of hard work, time investment and vision?
I bet you low-balled the absolute shit out of him and he told you to jump.


You have no original idea.
You have no skills in the area that actually improves on what Zeta has created
All you're doing is taking someone elses' vision
Adding a few tweaks and hoping that an established fan base jumps ship.
Comes over to your ripoff game and gets suckered into your micro-transaction model.

I bet you think EA and Activision have good business models too and aspire to be them (:


What happened to world of whatever your other game was? fallen-sword ripoff/clone.

Mate i do respect you and understand your feelings for VU. 

But, the Gaming world now we know it, is changed mate. Everyone is coping everyone now and just by adding something new they're saying they are inspired by that game even tho they copied +90%! And others can't do anything bout it. Just for example, first LDoE(Last day on earth) was made by a Russian Developer Team. Then +5 game companies just copy pasted that game & gave a different name! Those games copied LDoE: Prey Day, Wasteland Survival, Jurrasic Survival, Grim soul: Dark fantasy survival, Live or Die: Survival & few more games. Basically what those games did was changed the Event Map & add very few feature. And what LDoE could do was nothing. But they did buy one of those copied game to save their A$$ :) 


09:10:46 Feb 6th 19 - Sir Edi The Great:

I actually downloaded both these games, the concept really is the same

But I thought there were lots of differences as well...

I am not sure if I have the right games, but I believe I played Last Day of Earth and Grim Soul Survival, at first I liked the both games. But after a little bit, I liked Grim Soul much more. If I am not mistaken Last Day on Earth is modern time, where there are guns and modern weapons, while Grim Soul was more medival, armor, swords and such. 

I liked the map in Grim Soul much better too, if was hard to find stuff, while in LDoE you walk up to army trucks that were left behind and find machine guns and stuff, which ruins it for me. One of the better moments for me was crafting the bow and arrows, shooting and then running away, then repeat. While in LDoE you just blast hundreds of bullets at enemies and never run. 

Not to mention GS has few enemies you can't even touch like the Night Ghost that you basically have to run away if you don't have fire. And the things that LDoE has, like the horde of zombies walking over your camp, destroying half of it, was not fun at all, since it happened every 24 hours for me, and I could not defend against it. So I quit that game quickly, and played GS.

Just like here, if VU does not update and a new better game comes, I will switch to that one.


09:59:07 Feb 6th 19 - Night Talon Lord Ivanho (Mr. Snow Whites Secret Boyfriend):

Edi you played both these games recently or few months ago right? thats why it seemed different.


But actually Grim Soul didnt like this at Beginning. Basically at the Beginning LDoE were made by KEFIR. Then after LDoE gone viral, Grim Soul were first made by another company; 90% were same. That time Grim Soul were fully looked like LDoE except Event map n Enemy troops including Knights. after Grim Soul gone popular because of it amazing Medival concept, Kefir had to buy Grim Soul or they might lost their Popularity. Then Kefir updated Grim Soul and changed lots of things on continues updates. Thats why it'll look different now. LDoE & Grim Soul are now KEFIR's, tho they says their Dev Teams are different to keep both game unique n different.

I played both from very beginning.


10:08:33 Feb 6th 19 - Night Talon Lord Ivanho (Mr. Snow Whites Secret Boyfriend):


if VU does not update and a new better game comes, I will switch to that one.
Btw, Edi there is a better game than VU now. I'll post bout it later. Stay Tuned. ;)


11:18:59 Feb 6th 19 - Venomz (High Warlord Grags Doppelganger):

We don't like players who feel the need to create multi accounts anyway. Just go away Ivanho.


11:53:28 Feb 6th 19 - Night Talon Lord Ivanho (Mr. Snow Whites Secret Boyfriend):

Lolz, enlightening. Thanks for your compliment venomz.


17:05:18 Feb 6th 19 - ZeTa (VU Admin):

Instead of pouring years into making an MMO, spend a weekend making a causal game. =)


17:10:28 Feb 6th 19 - Mr. Bane:

Bring back flappy bird !!!


02:18:11 Feb 8th 19 - Mr. Bigfield The Chairman:

Sick Burn Zeta


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